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Omaha Steve

(99,653 posts)
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 04:54 PM Dec 2014

North Korea experiencing severe Internet outages

Source: AP-Excite

By ERIC TUCKER

WASHINGTON (AP) — North Korea experienced sweeping and progressively worse Internet outages extending into Monday, with one computer expert saying the country's online access is "totally down." The White House and the State Department declined to say whether the U.S. government was responsible.

President Barack Obama said Friday the U.S. government expected to respond to the hacking of Sony Pictures Entertainment Inc., which he described as an expensive act of "cyber vandalism" that he blamed on North Korea. Obama did not say how the U.S. might respond, and it was not immediately clear if the Internet connectivity problems represented the retribution. The U.S. government regards its offensive cyber operations as highly classified.

"We aren't going to discuss, you know, publicly operational details about the possible response options or comment on those kind of reports in anyway except to say that as we implement our responses, some will be seen, some may not be seen," State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf said.

North Korea has forcefully denied it was responsible for hacking into Sony.

FULL story at link.


Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20141222/us-sony-hack-north-korea-outage-6ca1e97057.html



The backbone in North Korea must run on Sony equipment.
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North Korea experiencing severe Internet outages (Original Post) Omaha Steve Dec 2014 OP
Well, how surprisng! n/t Feral Child Dec 2014 #1
Anonymous? Voice for Peace Dec 2014 #2
175.45.176.0 to 175.45.179.255 & 210.52.109.0 to 210.52.109.255 ...feel free to DOS them... L0oniX Dec 2014 #3
Good. Make it permanent, CIA. nt onehandle Dec 2014 #4
wah wah wah awh irisblue Dec 2014 #5
I don't think DPRK can play without an internet! Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2014 #12
hmmm...can that be? Stellar Dec 2014 #6
it's all fun and games until ... GreatGazoo Dec 2014 #7
Nork threats DustyJoe Dec 2014 #8
really? messing with the white house? irisblue Dec 2014 #14
Take the matches away from the child .. bravo Pres. Obama n/t cosmicone Dec 2014 #9
They deny doing it yet they benefit from it treestar Dec 2014 #10
Not necessarily US dirty work Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2014 #11
How will Dictator Jammy Pants wank off to Dennis Rodman videos now? titaniumsalute Dec 2014 #13
The Great School Yard Bully Strikes Again!!! YAY!!! DeSwiss Dec 2014 #15
Seriously? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #16
People like that are a laughing stock in American politics. Ykcutnek Dec 2014 #23
Well, good Gods, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #31
Hannah? Throd Dec 2014 #37
That name rings a bell Brother Buzz Dec 2014 #43
This is the way NK looks EVERY NIGHT nt LiberalElite Dec 2014 #41
informative graph in this article about the NK outage: riversedge Dec 2014 #17
BTW--I like the WH smerky response in the OP--nothing riversedge Dec 2014 #18
Nice country youse guys have over there. It would be a shame if it just....broke. 24601 Dec 2014 #19
The Comcast tech has been called. He'll be out there christx30 Dec 2014 #20
And the Snark-o-lious Award goes to sarge43 Dec 2014 #22
Pop-tarts? If we wuz ritzy enough for pop-tarts, why wud we have COMCAST? n/t 24601 Dec 2014 #25
how many had service to begin with? arely staircase Dec 2014 #21
or Cuba underpants Dec 2014 #26
World Bank say NK has 0 Internet users Renew Deal Dec 2014 #33
I wish they'd take it a step farther and target those who have a sad for North Korea. Ykcutnek Dec 2014 #24
If I had to guess a country, I'd go with Japan. Elmer S. E. Dump Dec 2014 #27
The Heart Bleeds Ryan Fitzomething Dec 2014 #28
The word now is that their Internet is totally down. defacto7 Dec 2014 #29
I thought NK had NO internet service to begin with. I guess I misunderstood, NorthCarolina Dec 2014 #30
The people don't get internet. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #32
The elite have access to a intranet herding cats Dec 2014 #38
Kim Jong Un is pissed ohnoyoudidnt Dec 2014 #34
You like that, DPRK? Aristus Dec 2014 #35
Yes, collective punishment always works so well. Just ask Israel. PSPS Dec 2014 #36
Moving 100 TB of data? Downwinder Dec 2014 #39
how can they tell? :P nt LiberalElite Dec 2014 #40
Have they tried turning it off then turning it back on? Bosonic Dec 2014 #42
It's all fun and games until Jen drops the fucking Internet Kennah Dec 2014 #46
Thank you for call Comcast. For English, Press One. Para Español, Marque Número Dos. Kennah Dec 2014 #44
Maybe someone was using the microwave oven during internet hour. Throd Dec 2014 #45
 

L0oniX

(31,493 posts)
3. 175.45.176.0 to 175.45.179.255 & 210.52.109.0 to 210.52.109.255 ...feel free to DOS them...
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:02 PM
Dec 2014

...and the US gov may hire you.

GreatGazoo

(3,937 posts)
7. it's all fun and games until ...
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:12 PM
Dec 2014
South Korea’s nuclear operator has been targeted in a cyber-attack, with hackers threatening people to “stay away” from three of the country’s nuclear reactors should they not cease operations by Christmas. The stolen data is thought to be non-critical information, and both the company and state officials have today assured that the attacked facilities and South Korea’s 23 atomic reactors are safe.

"It's our judgment that the control system itself is designed in such a way and there is no risk whatsoever," explained Chung Yang-ho, South Korea’s deputy energy minister.

"It is 100 percent impossible that a hacker can stop nuclear power plants by attacking them because the control monitoring system is totally independent and closed," added an official from Korea Hydro and Nuclear Power Co (KHNP).

However, KHNP has said that it will be conducting a series of security drills over the next two days at four power plants to ensure they can all withstand a cyber-attack.



http://thestack.com/south-korean-power-plants-cyber-attack-drills-hack-221214

DustyJoe

(849 posts)
8. Nork threats
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:19 PM
Dec 2014

The norks threatened the white house over the weekend

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_NKOREA_SONY_HACKING?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-12-21-21-44-06

If kim can't get his porn will he be fueling up one of his missiles he test fired towards Hawaii last year ?

The threats after this outage will probably be louder than the weekend threats against the White House and Pentagon.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
10. They deny doing it yet they benefit from it
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:26 PM
Dec 2014

They prevented release of the movie, so was that just a coincidence? Someone else did the hacking and gave them the information.

Then again it is hard to believe they have anyone with the skill to do the hacking.

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
11. Not necessarily US dirty work
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:26 PM
Dec 2014

There are some very good hackers all across the planet, and DPRK makes a very satisfying target.

Otherwise,

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
16. Seriously?
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:30 PM
Dec 2014

You despise the US so much that in some sort of brawl between the US and North freaking Korea of all places, you still take North Korea's side and call the US a bully? (if it even was the US, and not Anonymous or some other random group of hackers.) I thought your crush on Putin was bad enough. Which other murdering ruthless dictators are you loving on these days?

 

Ykcutnek

(1,305 posts)
23. People like that are a laughing stock in American politics.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:27 PM
Dec 2014

Let them vent. They'll never gain enough influence to inflict the damage their batshit crazy would cause.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
31. Well, good Gods,
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:09 PM
Dec 2014

I criticize the US up one side and down the other, and our military interventionism has been a dismal failure for as long as we've engaged in it, but even I am not going to take Kim Jong Un's side on any fight.

I'm beginning to wonder how many people a freebie account can put on ignore. I think I'm up to 10 or 11 now, and the influence on my blood pressure has been great since I set that double handful of trolls to 'vanish' mode. On the other hand, I think it would work far better if the 'ignore' didn't simply lop off all of the replies to those ignored by other people. I'm sure I'm missing some actual worthwhile comments that are posted in response to ones that aren't worth reading. Just treat the 'ignored' like 'name removed' comments, and let us see every other comment, even replies to 'ignored'.

riversedge

(70,239 posts)
17. informative graph in this article about the NK outage:
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:46 PM
Dec 2014



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/12/22/north-korea-internet_n_6367654.html


...Here's a graph, created by Madory on Monday, showing the unstable networks in North Korea over the past few days:



24601

(3,962 posts)
19. Nice country youse guys have over there. It would be a shame if it just....broke.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:50 PM
Dec 2014

No soup for you - two years!

christx30

(6,241 posts)
20. The Comcast tech has been called. He'll be out there
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:57 PM
Dec 2014

between 8am and 11pm on Saturday the 3rd. Make sure there is someone over the age of 18 with enough energy to answer the phone so the tech knows you're there (designate one person, and give him/her a Pop-Tart the morning of the appointment).

underpants

(182,823 posts)
26. or Cuba
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:30 PM
Dec 2014

I can't imagine many people had access but I would guess this is targeted at the government/military usage

BTW- opening up the internet is one of the major parts of the re-establishment of relations with Cuba.

 

Ykcutnek

(1,305 posts)
24. I wish they'd take it a step farther and target those who have a sad for North Korea.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:29 PM
Dec 2014

Let them sit in their basements without connectivity, in solidarity with the brutal regime they support so much.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
29. The word now is that their Internet is totally down.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 07:55 PM
Dec 2014

No one can really know what that means but that can only happen with the help of China where NK's main Internet connections reside. But it could mean that it's not actually "totally down" but inaccessible to most of the West where the US could have influence over the operation of the main Internet nodes. The Internet is pretty resilient in general so if it is fully down... it has to be China permitting it.

 

NorthCarolina

(11,197 posts)
30. I thought NK had NO internet service to begin with. I guess I misunderstood,
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:02 PM
Dec 2014

but a guest on the Daily Show in this past week mentioned that North Korea had no internet service, and that their people were generally unaware that such a thing even existed. I must have heard that wrong I guess.

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
32. The people don't get internet.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 08:19 PM
Dec 2014

Heck, most of the elites don't get internet.

But there are no doubt a few closely monitored places where outside connectivity is essential and allowed, which means hackers don't have to go far to cause massive problems. The country has already bottlenecked itself to limit the targets hackers need to hit.

The way some talking head types talked about it, though, you'd think their computer trainees didn't even understand the concept of networking, which is ridiculous. They didn't just magically pop out internet attacks. Some group there understands networking just fine, they just mostly get to train 'in-country', with a big old firewall blocking them from getting out to everywhere outside the country until Supreme Leader decides he needs them to hit a target somewhere. I'm sure they've got plenty of networking hardware to train on, even if a lot of it was smuggled in by people willing to sell such to North Korea's government in violation of user licensing agreements.

herding cats

(19,564 posts)
38. The elite have access to a intranet
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:55 PM
Dec 2014

Which is limited network which only allows government approved websites.


If you went to North Korea and asked people about the internet, most of them would probably have no idea what you were talking about. Most of the country is still mired in poverty, much of it rural. In Pyongyang, though, the privileged capital city, and perhaps in one or two other cities, North Koreans with good office jobs or coveted university slots might assume that you were talking about Kwangmyong.

Kwangmyong, which is Korean for "bright star," is North Korea's officially sanctioned intranet. It is a closed network that runs on pirated Japanese versions of Microsoft software and looks sort of like the real internet but isn't. Rather, it runs rudimentary email and browser tools that are restricted to a hand-picked collection of "sites" that have been copied over and censored from the real internet.

This network is accessible by the handful of computer labs at major North Korean government offices, universities, and a small number of cyber cafes in major cities. (Internal travel is forbidden without permission in North Korea, so most citizens never see Pyongyang or can visit its cyber cafes.) But you need a computer to access it, and that's only possible with official permission. Outside computers are illegal (except for the very highest elite, for whom many official rules do not apply); the only acceptable computers are produced by Morning Panda, a government-run company that makes only a few thousand computers every year.


http://www.vox.com/2014/12/22/7435625/north-korea-internet

Some very elite have access to the WWW which which some are tasked with searching for any mention of South Korea, etc. Lil'Kim I would imagine has access to whatever he'd like to view.

PSPS

(13,599 posts)
36. Yes, collective punishment always works so well. Just ask Israel.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:11 PM
Dec 2014

It saddens me to see how well the media has sold the line of "USA vs DPRK SMACKDOWN" over this now-somewhat-ordinary network intrusion.

OMG! A movie's release has been jeopardized/postponed! Rich movie stars are embarrassed!!1 RED ALERT! NATIONAL SECURITY! 9/11!!1!

I guess the next logical demand would be, "NUKE 'EM!!11!!"

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