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flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:36 PM Dec 2014

Cuban spy's ultimate mystery: How he got his wife pregnant from a U.S. prison

Source: CNN

Havana, Cuba (CNN) -- It might be the most bizarre of the closely guarded secrets from last week's historic agreement between the United States and Cuba: How did the leader of a Cuban spy ring serving life in a California federal prison manage to impregnate his wife 2,245 miles away in Havana?

As part of the most significant diplomatic breakthrough between the United States and Cuba in more than 50 years, a prisoner swap was made. To uphold its part of the bargain, the U.S. released three Cuban spies, including Gerardo Hernandez, the head of the spy ring known as the Wasp Network.

Hernandez had an ear-to-ear smile Wednesday as he arrived at Havana's Jose Marti International Airport. State TV showed Hernandez as he was greeted by President Raul Castro and then embraced and kissed his wife, Adriana Perez.

Cubans watching the nonstop coverage of the prisoner swap were shocked when the cameras zeroed in on Hernandez hugging Perez. She was obviously in the late stages of a pregnancy that had no easy explanation.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/21/world/americas/cuban-spy-artificial-insemination/index.html?c&page=0



WTF! Spy sperm swap!!
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Cuban spy's ultimate mystery: How he got his wife pregnant from a U.S. prison (Original Post) flamingdem Dec 2014 OP
Virgin Birth! It's a miracle! Xipe Totec Dec 2014 #1
That's easy, artificial insemination. Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #2
Anything that pisses off Miami cubans cosmicone Dec 2014 #3
LOL! I'm going to see if I can find anything about flamingdem Dec 2014 #4
Why are they calling it a "mystery" when they explain it in the text and the video? MADem Dec 2014 #5
I'll place my bet... SoapBox Dec 2014 #6
Senator Patrick Leahy was the milkman...! He facilitated the delivery! nt MADem Dec 2014 #8
Perfect that a Vermonter is the Milkman! flamingdem Dec 2014 #28
Ha ha ha--you're right and so clever!!! I didn't think of it but it's a perfect analogy!!! nt MADem Dec 2014 #29
shameless purveyors of domestic psychops reddread Dec 2014 #10
I was thinking more along the lines of "click bait" and "shameless gossip." MADem Dec 2014 #11
I am PRETTY SURE that CNN, among other entities reddread Dec 2014 #15
That is nothing, you know what is in the air inside that bubble pop wrapping material? snooper2 Dec 2014 #13
I suppose you didnt mean to, but thank you for making my day reddread Dec 2014 #14
No problem! I aim to impress LOL snooper2 Dec 2014 #16
and if a doctor offers you a prescription reddread Dec 2014 #17
Actually, I'm going to go take my medicine right now, going to get lunch snooper2 Dec 2014 #18
Wow--that was pretty rude. MADem Dec 2014 #20
break off some conspiracy theorist crap and I will do the same to you reddread Dec 2014 #21
Who called you a conspiracy theorist? You doubled down angrily on what looked like a light-hearted MADem Dec 2014 #22
whynt you tell me what bubblewrap and gobbledygook has to do with it? reddread Dec 2014 #24
Let's pull the string, shall we? You're the one that changed a simple negotiation between parties MADem Dec 2014 #30
think what you like reddread Dec 2014 #32
I can help with that, it was entirely clear. MADem Dec 2014 #33
is it VERY important for you to deny/ignore US Army psychops at CNN? reddread Dec 2014 #34
That story had nothing to do with your curiously spelled "psychops." MADem Dec 2014 #35
nefarious?? reddread Dec 2014 #36
Cubanos tend to not be uptight roody Dec 2014 #7
Doesn't ANYONE read the links, ever? Why would she abort a wanted, INSEMINATED child? nt MADem Dec 2014 #23
Short answer...No. As you saw in the earlier nonsense!! 7962 Dec 2014 #25
Ain't that peculiar!! MADem Dec 2014 #31
Now That My Fellow DU'ers Is A Good Spy......nt global1 Dec 2014 #9
Someone must've had it in for him. TheCowsCameHome Dec 2014 #12
! Adsos Letter Dec 2014 #26
HA! Gin Dec 2014 #27
Wonderful story. Hope the birth of this special child, Gema, will be safe, and she, in good health. Judi Lynn Dec 2014 #19

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
4. LOL! I'm going to see if I can find anything about
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 12:59 PM
Dec 2014

their reactions.

Especially for this Cuban spy guy, he was the one the right wing said was responsible for the killing one of theirs - though that was more bs rhetoric.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
5. Why are they calling it a "mystery" when they explain it in the text and the video?
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:10 PM
Dec 2014
Two sources involved with the diplomatic talks, when questioned by CNN, uncloaked the mystery: During the negotiations, Hernandez's sperm was collected and sent to Cuba, where Perez was artificially inseminated.


It was a good faith gesture by the US government.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
11. I was thinking more along the lines of "click bait" and "shameless gossip."
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:28 PM
Dec 2014

Not psyops--unless Pat Leahy is America's version of 007....

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
15. I am PRETTY SURE that CNN, among other entities
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:56 PM
Dec 2014

knows the EXACT percentage of headline browsers that will not examine the contents, and factors that against the details within.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
13. That is nothing, you know what is in the air inside that bubble pop wrapping material?
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:47 PM
Dec 2014

All those scenes on TV..kids loving to pop the bubble pop-

The same shit from chemtrails is in those bubbles and when you pop them it gets embedded in your house paint-


EVIL BASTARDS!

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
14. I suppose you didnt mean to, but thank you for making my day
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:54 PM
Dec 2014

not to mention serving as an example to developmentally debilitated folks everywhere.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
16. No problem! I aim to impress LOL
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:58 PM
Dec 2014

Now when you get that present the CIA keeps sending you DO NOT POP THE BUBBLE POP WRAP!





 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
18. Actually, I'm going to go take my medicine right now, going to get lunch
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 02:05 PM
Dec 2014

Just a little puffy puffy and good to go


We send that swag up North and keep the good shit for ourselves Why you think the Cowboys have been kicking so much ass.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
20. Wow--that was pretty rude.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 02:15 PM
Dec 2014

You could do better than telling someone that they need "medication" to express your disagreement with an idea.

Damn.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
21. break off some conspiracy theorist crap and I will do the same to you
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 02:19 PM
Dec 2014

the only people who call me conspiracy theorist are GW and JEB and their associates.
edited to add - PERIOD.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
22. Who called you a conspiracy theorist? You doubled down angrily on what looked like a light-hearted
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 02:25 PM
Dec 2014

comment.

And you were the one that called a straightforward (as shown in the article that no one apparently read) behind-the-scenes agreement brokered by the Senator from Vermont "psychops." I mean, really. YOU brought up the whole "conspiracy theory" meme with that remark.

Then you go ballistic when someone else mentions what YOU brought up...and respond with a "crazy/medication" insult?

Like I said. Damn!

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
24. whynt you tell me what bubblewrap and gobbledygook has to do with it?
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 02:29 PM
Dec 2014

you feel free to refresh my response and try sussing it out.
I certainly perceive where your interests lay, yet I would not resort to
those sorts of insults firstly.
I have respect, and others are free to toss that aside.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
30. Let's pull the string, shall we? You're the one that changed a simple negotiation between parties
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 05:32 PM
Dec 2014

(facilitation of the delivery of a sperm sample to Cuba in exchange for better treatment for Alan Gross) that was plainly outlined in the article into something you called "psychops." So YOU raised the topic (of "psychops" or "gobbledygook, or what have you), not anyone else. I don't think Mister Bubblewrap was seeking to insult you, he was merely riffing on the "psychops" point that YOU raised. I think the problem here is that Mister Bubblewrap read the article--and you didn't.

I think you were the rude one in that exchange. YMMV.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
32. think what you like
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 06:47 PM
Dec 2014

I remarked on the spin of the headline from a media giant that is a home for US Army Psychops.
I'll be damned if I know the significance of the bubblewrap and I hope it never becomes clear.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
33. I can help with that, it was entirely clear.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 09:45 PM
Dec 2014

The headline was click bait--nothing more.

The bubble wrap comment was a joke, based on your ascribing to nefarious origins some straightforward reporting under a gossipy, teaser "read this" headline about what the Democratic Senator from Vermont did to improve conditions for an American prisoner in Cuba.

CNN didn't "invent" that story. Here, you can read it all over the place:

You can read all about it in the CUBAN press: http://www.cuba.cu/noticia.php?actualidad&id=24085

You can read all about it in Almeria, in Spain: http://andaluciainformacion.es/almeria/466642/eeuu-y-cuba-incluyeron-un-tratamiento-de-reproduccion-asistida-dentro-de-sus-negociaciones/

Oooh--look! Guardian UK is apparently "in on" the "psychops" -- they're carrying the story too!
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/dec/22/artificial-insemination-us-cuba-semen-diplomacy

Semen diplomacy! That's all it is--not "psychops."


MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. That story had nothing to do with your curiously spelled "psychops."
Tue Dec 23, 2014, 09:04 AM
Dec 2014

That story was a story reported all over the world.

You're the one who started making all sorts of nefarious suggestions that were unsupported by the story under discussion--which led to a bubblewrap joke.

And here we are.

roody

(10,849 posts)
7. Cubanos tend to not be uptight
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 01:15 PM
Dec 2014

about sex. She could easily have had an abortion if she wanted or needed it.

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
19. Wonderful story. Hope the birth of this special child, Gema, will be safe, and she, in good health.
Mon Dec 22, 2014, 02:14 PM
Dec 2014

With any luck, Gerardo Hernandez and Adriana Perez should be able to have a far better life ahead than their past has been.

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