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hue

(4,949 posts)
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 11:38 AM Dec 2014

U.S. Supreme Court rejects BP challenge to Gulf spill settlement

Source: REUTERS

(Reuters) - The U.S. Supreme Court on Monday rejected BP's challenge to a settlement agreement over the 2010 Gulf of Mexico oil spill, which the oil giant said allowed certain businesses to get payouts despite being unable to trace their losses to the disaster.

The court’s refusal to hear BP’s appeal means the London-based company will have to make the payments as it continues to deal with the aftermath of the April 20, 2010, explosion of the Deepwater Horizon drilling rig and rupture of BP's Macondo oil well.

BP signed a settlement agreement in 2012 to compensate spill claimants, but has since argued that the agreement has been interpreted improperly, forcing it to pay businesses that could not show damages.

The court’s unsigned order is the latest setback to BP, which is trying to limit payments over the disaster, which killed 11 people and triggered the largest U.S. offshore oil spill.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/08/us-usa-court-bp-idUSKBN0JM1KR20141208

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U.S. Supreme Court rejects BP challenge to Gulf spill settlement (Original Post) hue Dec 2014 OP
this is surprising -- anyone got any insight to this belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #1
Yes Sgent Dec 2014 #14
so they said you agreed to it now you pay it. well good still im surprised belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #15
Translation: BP signed a contract without reading it and is now feeling the burn? That about it? cstanleytech Dec 2014 #17
Very good. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2014 #2
Now that's good news NV Whino Dec 2014 #3
! BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #4
People might notice Man from Pickens Dec 2014 #6
I'm just rocking back on my heels that the Cons on SCOTUS rejected BP's challenge BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #7
Don' t give SCOTUS too much credit here. staggerleem Dec 2014 #11
Oh I am willing to bet it wasn't laziness rather they just couldnt find any way to bail BP out cstanleytech Dec 2014 #18
Yeah, whatzamatter with them. Bid'ness made our country great. Hoppy Dec 2014 #8
No denying that - but unregulated businesses caused Wall Street crashes and failed economies. BlueCaliDem Dec 2014 #10
BRITISH bid'ness ... staggerleem Dec 2014 #12
O.T.O.H., wasn't Hancock a tea merchant whose bid'ness was hampered by the Tea Act? Hoppy Dec 2014 #13
It is hard to say........ RationalMan Dec 2014 #5
writ of certiorari. defined here belzabubba333 Dec 2014 #16
Yes, a petition for a writ of certiorari is a request to the SCOTUS to hear a case RationalMan Dec 2014 #19
"The Supreme Court needs to apologize to BP" bahrbearian Dec 2014 #9
Thank you, President Obama. President Obama signed the RESTORE Act into law on July 6, 2012. The RE Sunlei Dec 2014 #20
I'm happy he signed it Sgent Dec 2014 #21
Without President Obamas actions there would not have even been a camera on that failed well. Sunlei Dec 2014 #22

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
14. Yes
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 03:54 PM
Dec 2014

BP signed a class action settlement agreement which didn't require oil spill related damages to be specifically identified. If you had business operations in a affected zone, your damages were calculated using a comparative P&L statement. Didn't matter if you were a gas station or an internet distributor.

-In a geographic region
-Meet certain financial benchmarks (keep in mind in the southern states 2009 was a better year than 2010).
-Get financial settlement.

Depending on your geographic location the financial benchmarks were more or less stringent, but only in some cases were direct damages by the oil spill required to be shown.

BP negotiated this settlement, it went on for two years, then they tried to rescind it because it thought the payouts were too tangential to the damage. Every court that looked at it has basically said you negotiated it and are bound by it.

 

belzabubba333

(1,237 posts)
15. so they said you agreed to it now you pay it. well good still im surprised
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 04:00 PM
Dec 2014

i would have expected the corporate judges would welcome the opportunity to help out another corp.

thanks for taking the time to respond

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
17. Translation: BP signed a contract without reading it and is now feeling the burn? That about it?
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 04:37 PM
Dec 2014

If so then that explains why the court didnt agree to hear the case though I am willing to bet that 5 conservative justices on the court are wailing and gnashing their teeth over BP signing such a contract thus making it next to impossible for them to protect BP as much as they probably wanted to.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
2. Very good.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 11:45 AM
Dec 2014

The payment program is not perfect, and too many "little people" were not compensated
but
tis good to see one corporation who is unable to intimidate the Supremes.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
4. !
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 11:48 AM
Dec 2014

[URL=http://www.sherv.net/][IMG][/IMG][/URL] Corporate-bought-and-paid-for Conservatives on the U.S. Supreme Court rejects the commands of an oil corporation?? Now I've seen everything!

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
6. People might notice
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 11:59 AM
Dec 2014

that the original settlement let them get away like bandits, paying for only a fraction of the actual damage caused

if they had to pay everything they should be liable for, they would be bankrupt, and they'd take a lot of the UK pension system with it since so much is invested in BP

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
7. I'm just rocking back on my heels that the Cons on SCOTUS rejected BP's challenge
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 12:33 PM
Dec 2014

to pay that fraction of the actual damage caused. I mean, why should BP have to pay at all, is their thinking and, I thought, would be the thinking of the pro-corporate Conservatives on our highest court.

 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
11. Don' t give SCOTUS too much credit here.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 03:18 PM
Dec 2014

Remember that what they decided was to NOT hear an appeal, i. e., to do nothing more to help BP avoid the agreement that they signed on to. The motivation could have been simple laziness.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
18. Oh I am willing to bet it wasn't laziness rather they just couldnt find any way to bail BP out
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 04:40 PM
Dec 2014

from the agreement BP signed and that if there had been that they would have moved heaven and earth to hear the case in order to assist BP.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
10. No denying that - but unregulated businesses caused Wall Street crashes and failed economies.
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 01:38 PM
Dec 2014

And yes, I know you were using sarcasm.

 

staggerleem

(469 posts)
12. BRITISH bid'ness ...
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 03:28 PM
Dec 2014

... on the other hand, did NOT make our country great.

I suppose that a person could say that the policies of ONE British bid'ness (the East India Company) actually MADE our country - or at least provided a rallying point for the revolution that created our country. Yes, one could indeed say, without too much fear of contradiction, that the USA was founded in opposition to what was, at the time, the world's largest multinational corporation.

Since then, however, not so much.

RationalMan

(96 posts)
5. It is hard to say........
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 11:59 AM
Dec 2014

The petitioner requested the Supreme Court to issue a stay on the 5th Circuit's ruling pending a writ of certiorari. That request for a stay was denied shortly thereafter. The petitioner filed a formal petition for a writ of certiorari a few months later in early August.

As it takes only 4 of the 9 justices to issue a writ, we can expect that Scalia, Alito and Thomas voted for the writ. It appears they weren't able to get any of the remaining justices to join them.

Whether the other justices withheld their vote for the writ because of the actual legal issues in the case and their review of the 5th Circuit and U.S. District Court's rulings or because they didn't want to get involved in this specific issue. The Court has been reluctant to take up "one-off" cases - i.e. where their decision will be limited to the specific parties in one case. They sometimes take up these one-off cases where their resulting holding will have broader application across the country. They may have seen this as being a very fact-specific case that would not affect parties beyond this case and that the District Court and 5th Circuit seem to have handled the controversy appropriately.

 

belzabubba333

(1,237 posts)
16. writ of certiorari. defined here
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 04:03 PM
Dec 2014

Answer A petition for a writ of certiorari is the documentation sent to the Supreme Court of the United States to request that they review a case

RationalMan

(96 posts)
19. Yes, a petition for a writ of certiorari is a request to the SCOTUS to hear a case
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 04:46 PM
Dec 2014

where their review is not required under the Constitution. The SCOTUS is the court of first instance in some cases such as those between the states where they must hear the case. But in other cases where original jurisdiction is in the District Court and where appeal has been taken and decided by a competent Circuit Court, the SCOTUS is not required to hear the case.

In cases like this of a very specific set of facts and where the outcome is only going to affect the specific parties to the case the Court may not issue a writ. They may, as they did here, allow the Circuit Court holding to stand.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
20. Thank you, President Obama. President Obama signed the RESTORE Act into law on July 6, 2012. The RE
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 05:22 PM
Dec 2014
President Obama signed the RESTORE Act into law on July 6, 2012. The RESTORE Act creates a Gulf Coast Restoration Trust Fund. The Fund will receive 80% of any civil penalties paid under the Clean Water Act by the parties responsible for the Deepwater Horizon oil spill.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/deepwater-bp-oil-spill

http://www.restorethegulf.gov



Sgent

(5,857 posts)
21. I'm happy he signed it
Mon Dec 8, 2014, 05:40 PM
Dec 2014

but it has no bearing on this case.

This case involves the economic (not criminal or civil infractions) settlement between BP and affected businesses.

Essentially BP signed a settlement agreement, then disagreed how the settlement agreement was interpreted by the claims administrator and the court. BP signed an agreement that was probably too broad in certain respects, but they did sign it and its not like they didn't have legal representation.

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