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alp227

(32,063 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:37 PM Nov 2014

Illinois' state pension overhaul ruled unconstitutional

Source: STL Post-Dispatch

An Illinois judge has struck down a pension law designed to right state's listing fiscal ship, saying leaders can't balance their budgets by cutting benefits to unionized state workers.

&quot T)he state of Illinois made a constitutionally protected promise to its employees concerning their pension benefits,” Sangamon County Circuit Judge John Belz wrote in a ruling released Friday afternoon. “Under established and uncontroverted Illinois law, the State of Illinois cannot break this promise.”

State Attorney General Lisa Madigan immediately announced she would appeal the ruling to the Illinois Supreme Court. In a written statement, she said her office will ask the high court to expedite the appeal, “given the significant impact that a final decision in this case will have on the state’s fiscal condition.”

Gov. Pat Quinn and the legislature overhauled Illinois' state employee pension system in 2013, in an effort to address the state's $100 billion pension debt, the worst in the nation. The new law trimmed back retiree benefits and made other changes aimed at cutting costs.

Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/kevin-mcdermott/illinois-state-pension-overhaul-ruled-unconstitutional/article_2eda6f28-96d8-59a7-8ad2-95729d603b47.html



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Illinois' state pension overhaul ruled unconstitutional (Original Post) alp227 Nov 2014 OP
The ruling is what I have said for 20 years. louis-t Nov 2014 #1
"Break the deal, face the wheel." Hoppy Nov 2014 #16
K&R - the State of Illinois should have been funding the pension fully. closeupready Nov 2014 #2
The Post Office is! yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #3
I did not know that - that's terrific for postal workers. closeupready Nov 2014 #5
It is not particularly great for Postal workers now, but at least in the future they will not lose yeoman6987 Nov 2014 #7
I guess you ain't never heard of Chris Krispy? Hoppy Nov 2014 #17
Here's a Khan Academy primer on Illinois' situation closeupready Nov 2014 #4
Madigan - a Democrat - should be applauding, not appealing, this decision. Scuba Nov 2014 #6
I suppose her hands are tied and she has to continue to push the state's case. But, yeah. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2014 #8
Her father is Speaker of the IL House. former9thward Nov 2014 #11
I'm sure that's an ongoing factor but she still may be legally bound to pursue this. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2014 #21
If this stands, Rauner is going to raise taxes Paulie Nov 2014 #9
More likely, there will be massive cuts to public services frazzled Nov 2014 #10
Bankruptcy Paulie Nov 2014 #14
States cannot enter bankruptcy Hoppy Nov 2014 #18
It's not "going to be horrible." The solution's just going to be less profitable for some. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2014 #19
He has a Democratic House and Senate. former9thward Nov 2014 #12
They need to raise taxes Paulie Nov 2014 #15
Rauner is in favor of taxes on services, which Il isn't yet taxing. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2014 #20
Bravo for my union brothers and sisters Omaha Steve Nov 2014 #13
 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
2. K&R - the State of Illinois should have been funding the pension fully.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:42 PM
Nov 2014

If people are mad, blame those who failed to negotiate a better collective bargaining agreement with better (for them) terms, and also blame those who - along the way - raided revenues which should have been going towards the retirement fund.

 

closeupready

(29,503 posts)
5. I did not know that - that's terrific for postal workers.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 05:55 PM
Nov 2014


And when a state says to its employees, 'if you stay, we'll give you x towards your pension' and then workers decide - in part on the basis of that promise - to stay and work with the state (working until retirement), it's outrageous to later see the states working hard to dishonor a commitment they are fully capable of meeting.
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
7. It is not particularly great for Postal workers now, but at least in the future they will not lose
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 06:04 PM
Nov 2014

any earned benefits like many state employees will over time. It will get ugly. The Postal Workers will be one of the better retirees due to the hurt they have now.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
17. I guess you ain't never heard of Chris Krispy?
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 11:37 PM
Nov 2014

He's fucking over N.J. retirees in a similar way.

former9thward

(32,088 posts)
11. Her father is Speaker of the IL House.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:48 PM
Nov 2014

Last edited Sat Nov 22, 2014, 01:21 AM - Edit history (1)

Mike Madigan. She has always acted in his interest, no one else.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
9. If this stands, Rauner is going to raise taxes
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 06:45 PM
Nov 2014

It's the only way to come up with the 80 or so Billion dollars in pension shortfalls. And he campaigned against Quinn because he said Quinn was going to make the temp tax increase permanent.

Bruce going to bring back illinois to more epic deficits. And he paid out of his own pocket for the job. LoL

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
10. More likely, there will be massive cuts to public services
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:23 PM
Nov 2014

and this will disproportionately affect the poor.

Illinois needs to change to a graduated income tax that has a high rate for the top income brackets. I don't see that coming under Governor Rauner.

There is no freaking way out of this.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
14. Bankruptcy
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:44 PM
Nov 2014

Yay Illinois.

State is always late paying bills as it is. Especially to social service agencies.

It's going to be horrible.

former9thward

(32,088 posts)
12. He has a Democratic House and Senate.
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 07:50 PM
Nov 2014

No way he can raise taxes without them approving it. Are they willing to put their heads in the chopping block? I don't think so.

Paulie

(8,462 posts)
15. They need to raise taxes
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 09:45 PM
Nov 2014

And then he will veto, and it will be passed by Dems. So the Dems take the blame for 70 years of mismanagement. Sigh

Omaha Steve

(99,751 posts)
13. Bravo for my union brothers and sisters
Fri Nov 21, 2014, 08:39 PM
Nov 2014

Many of them are AFSCME AFL-CIO just like me.

Flip side is my local just voted after negotiations to pay more and get less on our pensions: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1014947581

K&R!

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