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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 08:37 PM Nov 2014

Russia Plans Own Version of Wikipedia to Provide More 'Reliable' Information

Source: Moscow Times

Russia plans to create its own "Wikipedia" to ensure its citizens have access to more "detailed and reliable" information about their country, the presidential library has said.

Citing Western threats, the Kremlin has asserted more control over the Internet this year, in what critics call moves to censor the web, and has introduced more pro-Kremlin content similar to closely controlled state media such as television. Wikipedia, the online encyclopedia assembled and written by Internet users around the world, has pages dedicated to nearly every region or major city within Russia's 11 time zones, but the Kremlin library said this was not good enough.

"Analysis of this resource showed that it is not capable of providing information about the region and life of the country in a detailed or sufficient way," the state news agency RIA Novosti quoted a statement from the presidential library as saying on Friday. "The creation of an alternative Wikipedia has begun." It was not known whether the project might affect Russians' access to the existing Wikipedia in any way.

President Vladimir Putin has branded the Internet a "CIA special project," and the Kremlin has said it must protect its online realm from threats from the West, as ties between the Cold War-era foes have hit a new bottom over the Ukraine crisis.

Read more: http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/article/russia-plans-alternative-version-of-wikipedia/511215.html



Think Conservapedia is Orwellian? Wait til you see Putinpedia
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Russia Plans Own Version of Wikipedia to Provide More 'Reliable' Information (Original Post) uhnope Nov 2014 OP
Wikipravda Cooley Hurd Nov 2014 #1
Putinpedia...LOL Cali_Democrat Nov 2014 #2
Putin on the shitz? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2014 #4
Well, they weren't in 2012: freshwest Nov 2014 #11
Pravdapedia? WikiPutin? branford Nov 2014 #3
I applaud this semanticwikiian Nov 2014 #5
Just what we have known for ages, the Russians have always beem so truthful Thinkingabout Nov 2014 #6
Sounds like conservapedia. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #7
The interesting thing will be to see the Conservapedia-Putinpedia overlap. Jim Lane Nov 2014 #16
Exactly. Putin is extremely right wing, and even loves oil. AtheistCrusader Nov 2014 #17
Stupid davidpdx Nov 2014 #8
I saw an advance of this..who knew Putin invented electricity and the polio vaccine? KinMd Nov 2014 #9
Lol..and they're trying to say he's not a homophobic/internet-journalist suppressing asshole, either Cha Nov 2014 #12
Conservapedia is just plain evil. Putinpedia will have a loyal fan base. Maybe videos: freshwest Nov 2014 #10
How long will it take for links to Putinpedia to go west, Codeine Nov 2014 #13
maybe it's all ballyhoo to make us go koko uhnope Nov 2014 #18
As long as real Wikipedia isn't blocked, this is no big deal daleo Nov 2014 #14
I'm not sure they are.... Adrahil Nov 2014 #20
Many people hear what they want to hear, and disregard the rest daleo Nov 2014 #23
absolutely.... Adrahil Nov 2014 #24
Well, Comrade Eddie will have a job.....nt msanthrope Nov 2014 #15
"Vladipedia", surely? Nye Bevan Nov 2014 #19
Any comment from Snowden about this? Blue_Tires Nov 2014 #21
Russia's new best buddy - China - is constantly working to rein in this internet thing. The latest: pampango Nov 2014 #22
 

semanticwikiian

(69 posts)
5. I applaud this
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 09:15 PM
Nov 2014

Disagree with the drama that this is an Orwellian stroke of the brush by Putin.

Wikipedia has highly technical folks around the world, the Russian contingent being among the most capable. The alarmist idea that this means another avenue of censorship for an autocratic govt to exploit could have some merit, if only it had some evidence. Anyway those same technologists would not stand for being cordoned off as the author suggests, so it won't happen.

No surprise that there's the desire by a wikipedia community to have its branded content, displayed differently, different underlying software, and so on. So applaud this, because it represents the further deepening of content -- available to everyone on the planet -- stored in "wikis". Remember of course that so-called semantic web comprises alot of wikis, hundreds of thousands of wikis.


Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. Just what we have known for ages, the Russians have always beem so truthful
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 09:52 PM
Nov 2014

And never spread propaganda, yep it will be as true as they allow.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
16. The interesting thing will be to see the Conservapedia-Putinpedia overlap.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:00 PM
Nov 2014

For example, if you go to Conservapedia and enter "LGBT" you get redirected to the article on "Homosexual rights advocacy", where you can read such gems as:

Conservatives also oppose attempts by homosexual activists to indoctrinate children by using liberal tactics such as tolerance or forcing diversity programs onto children in schools which strongly encourage the acceptance of homosexual behavior. Notable figures including Tony Perkins have expressed concerns. As any logical examination of the world would have one conclude, tolerance is an insidious construct which breeds relativism and lack of judgment.


Conservapedia licenses use of its content, so Putin's government can add this "information" to its new wiki without having to re-invent the authoritarian wheel.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
17. Exactly. Putin is extremely right wing, and even loves oil.
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 12:09 PM
Nov 2014

I'm genuinely confused why they hate Russia/Putin* so much.

Maybe they don't like looking in a mirror.




*this is not a general indictment of the Russian People, of whom I know several, and they are 'along for the ride' much like we were when the supreme court decided the 2000 election.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
8. Stupid
Mon Nov 17, 2014, 11:42 PM
Nov 2014

Wikipedia has editors from all over the world and while it isn't perfect, people do try to make sure spurious information doesn't get into articles. I used to edit on Wikipedia, but quit a few years ago.

Cha

(297,275 posts)
12. Lol..and they're trying to say he's not a homophobic/internet-journalist suppressing asshole, either
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 04:14 AM
Nov 2014

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
10. Conservapedia is just plain evil. Putinpedia will have a loyal fan base. Maybe videos:
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 01:05 AM
Nov 2014


That's for those who like rap or blowing things up. There are some made to appeal to women:



There may some hope for his female admirers:

Vladimir Putin's Divorce: The Russian President Is Officially A Single Man

By Nick Robins-Early - 04/03/2014

Almost a year after announcing their split in a stilted scene at the Grand Kremlin Palace, Russian President Vladimir Putin and his wife Lyudmila have finalized their divorce. The duo were married for 30 years and have two children together, though Putin's official biography on the presidential website no longer makes any mention of Lyudmila.

The news marks perhaps the final chapter in the hushed but turbulent drama of Putin's personal life. Rumors long circulated of a rift between the Russian strongman and his seldom-seen wife. The Kremlin regularly issued denials of such gossip, and Putin himself denied marital troubles, telling Italian reporters there was "not a single word of truth" in the speculation and that he had contempt for those whose "erotic fantasies prowl into others' lives..."

The latest development points to the newly single President Putin now being the world's most powerful bachelor, a title that jells with the virile outdoorsman persona he has publicly cultivated for years. Evenso, a few hurdles to dating the World's Most Powerful Person may stand in the way for potential matches, starting with his much-rumored surreptitious liaisons with a former Olympic gymnast.

Of course, Putin rarely allows much interfere with getting what he wants. Just ask Ukraine.*


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/02/putin-divorce-final_n_5077092.html

*In his defense, he likely thinks he's doing a great thing for his country...

daleo

(21,317 posts)
14. As long as real Wikipedia isn't blocked, this is no big deal
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 08:57 AM
Nov 2014

As others have pointed out, this is another Conservapedia. Russians are savvy enough to recognize state-sponsored propaganda.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
20. I'm not sure they are....
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:06 PM
Nov 2014

... they seem to lap up the official Kremlin position on pretty much everything. And I wouldn't put it past ole Pootie to block Wikipedia.

daleo

(21,317 posts)
23. Many people hear what they want to hear, and disregard the rest
Wed Nov 19, 2014, 10:08 PM
Nov 2014

In Russia and in the rest of the world, including North America.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
24. absolutely....
Thu Nov 20, 2014, 12:21 PM
Nov 2014

... but in Russia there is a concerted effort to limit the voices of those that disagree with the Kremlin. Why do you think that is?

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
19. "Vladipedia", surely?
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 01:11 PM
Nov 2014

ERROR: no page was found for "Russian invasion of Ukraine".
Did you mean "Russian intervention to defend Ukraine against evil Western imperialists?"
And by the way your IP address has been logged....

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
21. Any comment from Snowden about this?
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:23 PM
Nov 2014

LOL...Of course not! But I'm legally required to ask that question every time Russia is in the news...

pampango

(24,692 posts)
22. Russia's new best buddy - China - is constantly working to rein in this internet thing. The latest:
Tue Nov 18, 2014, 05:47 PM
Nov 2014
Internet freedom faces new attack as China seeks to shape global web rules

The Chinese government’s increasing efforts to influence global cyberspace rules is a further sign that internet freedom is under a sustained attack, said Amnesty International, ahead of China’s first World Internet Conference.

The event, which takes place in the eastern Zhejiang province, between 19 -21 November, brings together senior Chinese officials and global web leaders to discuss the future of the internet. It is seen by many internet experts as part of China’s attempt to have a greater say in the rules that govern the web.

“Internet freedom is under attack by governments across the world. Now China appears eager to promote its own domestic internet rules as a model for global regulation. This should send a chill down the spine of anyone that values online freedom,” said William Nee, China researcher at Amnesty International.

“China’s internet model is one of extreme control and suppression. The authorities use an army of censors to target individuals and imprison many activists solely for exercising their right to free expression online.”

http://www.amnesty.org./en/news/internet-freedom-faces-new-attack-china-seeks-shape-global-web-rules-2014-11-18
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