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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 03:47 PM Oct 2014

Kansas Revenue Numbers Are In-Gov Brownback's Tea Party Economy Downgraded From 'Bad' To 'Nightmare'

Source: The Daily Kos & The New York Times

It was reported in April that tax revenue in Kansas was down 45 percent due to Gov. Sam Brownback's destructive policies. Things were so bad that in August Standard & Poor downgraded the credit rating for the state. Well, the new revenue figures from June to September are in and it's even worse than imagined:

Revenue numbers for July through September, the first three months of fiscal year 2015, suggest Kansas’ revenue gap is permanent, not temporary. The state anticipated $578 million in personal income tax collections over the summer, but it took in just $524 million, a miss of more than 10 percent. That was nationally atypical; according to the Rockefeller Institute of Government, 14 states have published projected and actual monthly personal income tax receipts through September, and the other 13 all came within 5 percent of expectations.

Kansas’ wide miss was probably a result of wading into uncharted territory with its tax reforms. In addition to cutting income tax rates, Kansas made itself the only state with a general personal-income tax that exempts “pass-through income” from tax. As noted by the New York Times, these stunning figures are indicative of a permanent trend.

Read more: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/10/22/1338450/-Kansas-revenue-numbers-are-in-Gov-Sam-Brownback-economy-changed-from-bad-to-nightmare

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Kansas Revenue Numbers Are In-Gov Brownback's Tea Party Economy Downgraded From 'Bad' To 'Nightmare' (Original Post) big_dog Oct 2014 OP
And Brownback is 50/50 to be re-elected. Dawson Leery Oct 2014 #1
Looks like Davis is now polling a few pts ahead of Brownback.... riversedge Oct 2014 #5
If they re-elect Brownback, they deserve to. mountain grammy Oct 2014 #11
That's my attitude also tazkcmo Oct 2014 #26
Republican voters in Kansas all know it. tridim Oct 2014 #2
Oh yeah TRoN33 Oct 2014 #25
I'm torn jeff47 Oct 2014 #3
the numbers are so bad, he's hurting fellow wingnuts down/across the ticket big_dog Oct 2014 #4
Goals turbinetree Oct 2014 #6
Well said Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #9
Will this be used to demonstrate that Democratic policies are better MontyPow Oct 2014 #7
this is the test case that unregulated Tea Party policies DO NOT WORK big_dog Oct 2014 #8
What these Randian nut bags do not get is that life is not a choice of Individualism OR Society. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #10
Brownback was doomed when he refused th extra food aid coming back from the Great Recession big_dog Oct 2014 #13
Kansas has notoriously been miserly when it comes to aid for the poor and sick. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #15
even their hero Ray-Gun admitted back in the 1980s that best stimulus was food aid to needy families big_dog Oct 2014 #16
Catholics are supposed to give to the poor, not take from the poor. He has a special place prepared Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #21
Fundamentalist quasi-Christians that hate the poor, just like Jesus? Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #17
Yup, gives a whole new meaning to Anti-Christ. Dont call me Shirley Oct 2014 #18
I sincerely hope that we point to this state time and again. MontyPow Oct 2014 #23
More than thirty years of free market, trickle down bullshit.. mountain grammy Oct 2014 #12
It's Kansas. He just needs to Praise God and shout "Jesus loves me" and he is in. AlinPA Oct 2014 #14
Amen. That's all the fuck it takes. nt valerief Oct 2014 #24
I think the only thing after 'Nightmare' is 'Zombie Apocalypse'. tanyev Oct 2014 #19
Bah,they just need to make more cuts! Starve the beast! Adrahil Oct 2014 #20
Maybe the Kochs should bail them out. ErikJ Oct 2014 #22
Government, meet bathtub. blkmusclmachine Oct 2014 #27

riversedge

(70,253 posts)
5. Looks like Davis is now polling a few pts ahead of Brownback....
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 04:19 PM
Oct 2014



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/21/kansas-senate-poll_n_6020704.html


HUFFPOLLSTER: Latest Kansas Senate Survey Shows A Tie
Posted: 10/21/2014 8:46 am EDT Updated: 10/21/2014 1:59 pm EDT


A new poll finds a tie in the Kansas Senate race. Americans' media habits are polarized, but few live in ideological bubbles. And while pollsters won't cop to 'herding,' most suspect that others do. This is HuffPollster for Tuesday, October 21, 2014.

NEW POLL FINDS TIE RACE IN KANSAS - A new Monmouth University Poll finds a tie race for Senate in the unusual contest pitting Republican Sen. Pat Roberts against independent challenger Greg Orman. The Democratic nominee, Chad Taylor, dropped out of the race in September and his name will not appear on the ballot. The Monmouth poll of just 429 likely voters find 46 percent support for both Roberts and Orman with just 5 percent undecided. Five polls conducted earlier in October found results ranging between a five point lead for Orman and a five point lead for Roberts. The current estimate produced by HuffPollster's poll tracking model gives a slight but largely meaningless half point edge (44.2 to 43.6 percent as of this writing). The probability of a Roberts win stands, based on this estimate, is exactly 50 percent. [Monmouth, Pollster Kansas senate chart]

The poll also gave Democratic challenger Paul Davis a 5 percentage point lead over Republican governor Sam Brownback (50 to 45 percent). That's a slightly better result for the Democrat compared to four other recent surveys that showed either a tie or a slight Brownback advantage, though three surveys in late September gave Davis a narrow advantage. The HuffPollster poll tracking model gives Davis a one point advantage, as of this writing (47.8 to 46.8 percent), but barely bette..............

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
26. That's my attitude also
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 06:55 PM
Oct 2014

I grew up in Kansass and hated every second of it. My sister still lives there and doesn't vote at all while all her friends are "bikers" (Really just Ford plant workers that like to play dress up and drive Harleys) that rail against Barry and liberals. They deserve every bit of hell Brownback and the GOP put them through.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
3. I'm torn
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 04:07 PM
Oct 2014

Part of me wants him thrown out to stop the suffering.

Part of me wants him re-elected so we have a real-world example to point to, in order to stop Republican's wider goals.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
4. the numbers are so bad, he's hurting fellow wingnuts down/across the ticket
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 04:14 PM
Oct 2014

Kobach is in a 50-50 race and Sen. Pat Roberts (who may be chairman of the Ag Committee) may go down after 47 years in Washington because him

turbinetree

(24,703 posts)
6. Goals
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 04:25 PM
Oct 2014

Brownback set his goals right along with every one that voted for his measures, and now that the chickens are coming home to roost there are going to be the whiners, well guess what your bed is made, your taxes are going to have to go up, this Ayn Rand concept of Atlas Shrugged is a failure and always has been a failure, and the KOCH backed Brownback institution of those goals shows what happens when you have an oligarchy in your politics and a hypocrite shoving his moralist values down your throat and gutting your education system to be third rate and .
Imagine the guy or gal on the street corner unemployed in the state of Kansas asking for job on cardboard what do you think they think of your credit rating when some one has bankrupted there lives for political gain, not much

 

MontyPow

(285 posts)
7. Will this be used to demonstrate that Democratic policies are better
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 04:29 PM
Oct 2014

Or will we still run Republican Lite Democrats because "red state" nonsense?

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
8. this is the test case that unregulated Tea Party policies DO NOT WORK
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 04:34 PM
Oct 2014

Brownback has had hardly any opposition except for a 20 something vote minority in the State Senate, so this can be shown to voters all over the land about what can happen when the wingnuts go unchecked

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
10. What these Randian nut bags do not get is that life is not a choice of Individualism OR Society.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 04:52 PM
Oct 2014

It is a healthy balance of both. We need each other (society) to make our individual lives function well.

Reagan's story of this country's "rugged individualism" is a myth. Reagan's legacy is Mythology.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
13. Brownback was doomed when he refused th extra food aid coming back from the Great Recession
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 05:03 PM
Oct 2014

not to mention vetoing Medicare expansion etc.

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
15. Kansas has notoriously been miserly when it comes to aid for the poor and sick.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 05:09 PM
Oct 2014

Brownback has taken that to a new low, close to hell.

The problem with Kansas is that there are way too many fundamentalists churches whose members wholly drink the Koch-cult Koolaid.

 

big_dog

(4,144 posts)
16. even their hero Ray-Gun admitted back in the 1980s that best stimulus was food aid to needy families
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 05:16 PM
Oct 2014

Last edited Fri Oct 24, 2014, 01:02 PM - Edit history (1)

because it GOT SPENT immediately! Brownback gave back free money that was going to the states poor --what a jagoff!

Dont call me Shirley

(10,998 posts)
21. Catholics are supposed to give to the poor, not take from the poor. He has a special place prepared
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 05:41 PM
Oct 2014

for him in Hell.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
17. Fundamentalist quasi-Christians that hate the poor, just like Jesus?
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 05:19 PM
Oct 2014

Will the real Christians please stand up and take a stand?

 

MontyPow

(285 posts)
23. I sincerely hope that we point to this state time and again.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 06:03 PM
Oct 2014

And hopefully we won't turn tail and run when the Republicans inevitably say we're beating up on Kansans and their Christian values.

mountain grammy

(26,626 posts)
12. More than thirty years of free market, trickle down bullshit..
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 05:00 PM
Oct 2014

and people still vote for Republicans. Go figure.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
22. Maybe the Kochs should bail them out.
Thu Oct 23, 2014, 05:47 PM
Oct 2014

They are worth more than all of Kansas and its ultimately their T-Party ideology that did this. Reminds me of how JP Morgan had to bail out the US govt back in the 1890's because he had more $ than the US Treasury.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
27. Government, meet bathtub.
Fri Oct 24, 2014, 03:54 AM
Oct 2014

BTW, Gov. Brownback is associated with the shadowy extreme right pseudo-religious Dominionist Cult known as "THE FAMILY"/"THE FELLOWSHIP."

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