Parting Ways (Derbyshire Fired From National Review)
Source: National Review
Derb has long danced around the line on these issues, but this column is so outlandish it constitutes a kind of letter of resignation. Its a free country, and Derb can write whatever he wants, wherever he wants. Just not in the pages of NR or NRO, or as someone associated with NR any longer.
Read more: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/295514/parting-ways-rich-lowry
John Derbyshire has been fired from National Review for his odious Talk published in an online magazine.
It took long enough.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)WTF? They thought it was worth publishing until people started bitching about it?
Their hypocrisy is almost as bad as Derbyshire's douchebagism.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)If you read the article at the link, they (NR) explain that although it wasn't NR's publication, Derbyshire is known as a NR writer and they didn't want to be associated with what he wrote.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)Takimag is a new media start-up by some conservative Greek multi-millionaire (not George Soros). Pretty disgusting article, actually. Basically telling his daughters to stay away from any large crowd of blacks. He's a longtime douchebag.
Slightly OT, but check his picture against James O'Keefe...they look like they could be father/son.
JNelson6563
(28,151 posts)Not George Soros? No surprise there, he's not conservative last I heard.
Is it Arianna Huffington?
Julie
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)The guy's name is Taki Theodoracopulos...hence "Taki" magazine. He may have been the founder of American thinker? It's definitely favors the intelectual racist line - Pat Buchanan has a column there.
Actually, I don't think Soros is Greek...I seem to recall he's Eastern European.
RZM
(8,556 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,361 posts)But in his case, his proprietor, Conrad Black, seemed content to explain at length why he thought it was wrong. From 2001:
http://israelinsider.com/Views1/933.htm
The Guardian calling for him to go in 2004 (the editor of The Spectator then was Boris Johnson, now Conservative Mayor of London), now with new owners of the Spectator:
Boris is a bit of a card and, go on, you can't help loving him. But if he is truly sorry, then one has to ask why he continues to employ Taki, the playboy pundit, who sluices offensive and outdated stereotypes into the pages of the Spectator most weeks. After two girls were shot in Birmingham last year he referred to disaffected young people as "black thugs, sons of black thugs and grandsons of black thugs," adding bravely: "West Indians were allowed to immigrate after the war, multiply like flies and then the great state apparatus took over the care of their multiplications." Boris admitted this was a "terrible" column, but did not actually apologise. The party leader didn't suggest a penitential trip to Brixton.
In Taki's Spectator musings New York Puerto Ricans are spics - "a bunch of semi-savages ... fat, squat, ugly, dusky, dirty." Kenya is labelled "bongo-bongo land" and black men are periodically referred to as "Sambo". Taki is happy to describe himself as "a soi-disant anti-semite" and has gaily written of the world Jewish conspiracy.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2004/oct/21/conservatives.pressandpublishing
And still at it in 2011:
Taki is rhapsodising about Sachs because he was, due to inherited wealth and a brief marriage to Brigitte Bardot, an international playboy, like Taki. It is depressing to see this sorry pile of sun-damaged sex addicts have a last media hurrah so I will have a go at them. Taki would expect no less from a lower middle-class Jewish columnist in the Guardian.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2011/may/16/taki-gunter-sachs-playboys
He spent a few months in prison for smuggling cocaine through Heathrow Airport
This shows one of the basic problems with much of the British right wing (note that Derbyshire himself is British), and The Spectator, a supposedly 'respectable' right wing magazine, in particular - they find racism amusing, and keep racists like Taki and Derbyshire around to annoy normal people.
chervilant
(8,267 posts)This is the first time I've seen "the prissy hypersensitivities of political correctness" used to describe the disgust most rational individuals feel about racism.
Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)Man, that's a blast from the past.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,192 posts)Must be some lazy editors.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,836 posts)means you're WAAAYY out there. Which he was. He actually managed to offend Rich Lowry - the guy who said this about Sarah Palin:
Im sure Im not the only male in America who, when Palin dropped her first wink, sat up a little straighter on the couch and said, Hey, I think she just winked at me. And her smile. By the end, when she clearly knew she was doing well, it was so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing. It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America. This is a quality that cant be learned; its either something you have or you dont, and man, shes got it.
I guess Derbyshire has been relegated to the same fringe as Pat Buchanan. Wonder when he'll get an offer from Faux News?
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)calimary
(81,465 posts)on the premise that - well horror of horrors, she MIGHT someday want to go into politics, and we just simply cannot have another Clinton succeeding in politics. We simply must have that demon seed wiped out.
It was HORRIBLE. He was advocating cold-blooded pre-meditated murder. And no one did anything. Scarcely anyone said anything. And he was allowed to stay on. "Oh, he was JOKING. It was supposed to be FUNNY." Yeah, my ass. Didn't seem like a joke to me!!!
That was years ago. And he's only now getting fired. Un-frickin'-believable. He should have been exiled to some asteroid YEARS ago.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)struggle4progress
(118,334 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)Fake news, NRA and ALEC will hire him or the one of the GOP Governors, ie AZ comes to mind.
Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)They hire toe suckers, convicted felons, and sexual predators. A racist would seem mild by comparison.
indykatie1955
(63 posts)On reflection I guess Lowry figured that a mere rebuke would not work, especially a mild rebuke.
cali
(114,904 posts)bemildred
(90,061 posts)Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)Jonah Goldberg and Ramesh Pomura(?) came out strongly against him yesterday...under the bus for you, Derbs!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)that indicated he was a racist. What makes you think that?
Adenoid_Hynkel
(14,093 posts)if memory serves me.
Kelvin Mace
(17,469 posts)he was the "polite" voice of segregation, you know, racism in a suit and tie instead of a white hood.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,505 posts)A 1957 editorial written by Buckley, "Why the South Must Prevail" (National Review, 8/24/57), cited the "cultural superiority of white over Negro" in explaining why whites were "entitled to take such measures as are necessary to prevail, politically and culturally, in areas where [they do] not predominate numerically." Appearing on NPRs Fresh Air in 1989 (rebroadcast 2/28/08), he stood by the passage. "Well, I think that's absolutely correct," Buckley told host Terry Gross when she read it back to him.
How about this?
A 1960 National Review editorial supported South Africas white minority rule (4/23/60): "The whites are entitled, we believe, to preeminence in South Africa." In a 1961 National Review column about colonialismwhich the magazine once called "that brilliantly conceived structure" (William F. Buckley, John Judis)--Buckley explained that "black Africans" left alone "tend to revert to savagery." The same year, in a speech to the group Young Americans for Freedom, Buckley called citizens of the Congo "semi-savages" (National Review, 9/9/61).
National Review editors condemned the 1963 bombing of a black Birmingham Church that killed four children, but because it "set back the cause of the white people there so dramatically," the editors wondered "whether in fact the explosion was the act of a provocateurof a Communist, or of a crazed Negro" (Chicago Reader, 8/26/05).
Just months before the 1965 Voting Rights Act was passed, Buckley warned in his syndicated column (2/18/65) that "chaos" and "mobocratic rule" might follow if "the entire Negro population in the South were suddenly given the vote." In his 1969 column "On Negro Inferiority" (4/8/69), Buckley heralded as "massive" and "apparently authoritative" academic racist Arthur Jensen's findings that blacks are less intelligent than whites and Asians.
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=3406
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)This is Buckley's solipsistic treatise on race...an intellectual argument as to why Southern white culture needed to remain dominant over the blacks. You can see the beginnings of the conservative alignment with the Republican "Southern Strategy" in Buckley's writings. Later in life, Buckley moderated his writings on the subject, but he really made his career as a racist rhetorician....not dissimilar to Patrick Buchanan.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)While reading up on his ideology, I was looking for statements that softened the blows, explanations, later statements that clarified prior ones making them not as bad as they seemed to be. But no, there's no getting around it. It was like reading a KKK ideology book. Statement after statement of incomprehensible outrageous, blatant racism, that could only serve to beat people down and regard them as less than others.
Wow. Thanks for the info.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)How sincere he was, only he knew.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)It is almost as shocking as it would be if Clear Channel fired Rush...
Julian Englis
(2,309 posts)Mz Pip
(27,453 posts)was what was in the comments section. Truly disgusting.
skepticscott
(13,029 posts)What a shock. NRO doesn't want it advertised too blatantly that most of their readers are racists who sympathize with Derbyshire's point of view. Not that it's such a huge secret.
Skittles
(153,193 posts)I mean, seriously - WTF
Bolo Boffin
(23,796 posts)They are the people constantly wanting to kill him in public places. Easy to pick out. /sarcasm
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Specifically "IWSB's" (Intelligent, Well-Socialized Blacks).
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=533496
(13) In that pool of forty million, there are nonetheless many intelligent and well-socialized blacks. (Ill use IWSB as an ad hoc abbreviation.) You should consciously seek opportunities to make friends with IWSBs. In addition to the ordinary pleasures of friendship, you will gain an amulet against potentially career-destroying accusations of prejudice.
(14) Be aware, however, that there is an issue of supply and demand here. Demand comes from organizations and businesses keen to display racial propriety by employing IWSBs, especially in positions at the interface with the general publiccorporate sales reps, TV news presenters, press officers for government agencies, etc.with corresponding depletion in less visible positions. There is also strong private demand from middle- and upper-class whites for personal bonds with IWSBs, for reasons given in the previous paragraph and also (next paragraph) as status markers.
(15) Unfortunately the demand is greater than the supply, so IWSBs are something of a luxury good, like antique furniture or corporate jets: boasted of by upper-class whites and wealthy organizations, coveted by the less prosperous. To be an IWSB in present-day US society is a height of felicity rarely before attained by any group of human beings in history. Try to curb your envy: it will be taken as prejudice (see paragraph 13).
If I'm feeling puckish, I'll dredge up Derbyshite's racist rant on New Orleans.
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Race. From the tourists-eye view, New Orleans is a black city. The servicepeople at the airport, the hotel, concessions, stores, museums, and fast-food outlets are uniformly black. Most of the people you pass on the street, outside the tourist precincts, are black. I think this is the blackest American city I have been in....
What happened to this young couple was unspeakably horrible, and there is of course no excusing such barbarism. It is hard, though, not to shake your head at the couples unworldly naivety. What kind of people did they think they were going to encounter when they got down and dirty with the community? The Times-Picayune story quoted a neighbor of the couple saying this: They would never do it, but they should have answered the door with a gun. Hard to disagree with that either part of it....
Normally I wouldnt have indulged this, but heck, it was her birthday. It did make me feel slightly sad, though, that a bright and lively young person, taken to a city with three centuries of history stacked up, should seek out a shopping mall, of the kind that is exactly the same, with the same vendors Brookstone, Banana Republic as in every other mall everywhere in the USA. This one didnt even have a bookstore I could hang out in. Come to think of it, I didnt see a bookstore the whole two days poking around New Orleans.
He must not have poked very hard. There's one right behind the big cathedral, in the house where Faulkner once lived. And another down the block on Chartres, and...
What a .
Skittles
(153,193 posts)I've been to New Orleans three times - wonderful trips - such a rich history in Nawlins - such down to earth people and WOW do they make partying FUN. This guy Derbyshire - I feel he is diseased.
oh and heck yes there were bookstores!!!
KamaAina
(78,249 posts)Skittles
(153,193 posts)THAT GUY NEEDS AN INTERVENTION
DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)K&R
Paladin
(28,272 posts)Typical NYC Lib
(182 posts)He was a conservative, but he wasn't a moron like these jokers.
Old and In the Way
(37,540 posts)Read posts above. He was an upscale conservative racist.
fujiyama
(15,185 posts)is that he started out supporting segregation having been raised by southern parents, but his views evolved. He also did denounce the John Birch Society and other such groups in the '60s and debated George Wallace so by the late '60s, it sounds like his views had become more civilized...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_F._Buckley,_Jr.#White_supremacy_in_the_South