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TomCADem

(17,390 posts)
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 01:22 AM Oct 2014

GOP candidate blames lack of female support on single moms

Source: NBC

If New Jersey Senate candidate Jeff Bell was struggling with female voters before, his latest comments on the matter will only make things worse.

Speaking with the Asbury Park Press Thursday, the Republican attributed his 20-plus percentage point deficit among women voters to declining marriage rates and single women’s dependency on government benefits, something that “weds them to the Democratic Party.” Bell trails incumbent Sen. Cory Booker, a Democrat, by 23 points among women in the latest Monmouth University Poll, contributing to Booker’s overall 15-point lead among likely voters.

“I’ve done a lot of thinking about this and looked at a lot of different polls, I think it has more to do with the rise in single women,” Bell told the Asbury Park Press. “Single mothers particularly are automatically Democratic because of the benefits. They need benefits to survive, and so that kind of weds them to the Democratic Party.”

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“Single women who have never married and don’t have children are also that way,” he continued. “If you take married women, they aren’t that different from married men. So it’s really a problem with the decline in marriage rates. The Democrats do benefit from that.”

Read more: http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/gop-candidate-blames-lack-female-support-single-moms

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GOP candidate blames lack of female support on single moms (Original Post) TomCADem Oct 2014 OP
I hate this prejudice against single people shenmue Oct 2014 #1
This is probably from a guy who would die in his own filth Warpy Oct 2014 #8
That is patriarchy in action. yardwork Oct 2014 #33
Assholes say assholey things. nt valerief Oct 2014 #2
and he's an asshole samsingh Oct 2014 #31
what an idiot KT2000 Oct 2014 #3
On the bright side, he apparently gets that "welfare queens" is not politically advantageous. merrily Oct 2014 #4
Or maybe he's making a bid for the Deadbeat Dad vote mpcamb Oct 2014 #30
"that way" Skittles Oct 2014 #5
Indeed. eom littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #15
this is so over the top it's kinda funny...gives a whole new meaning to "tone deaf." CTyankee Oct 2014 #22
WOW Cali_Democrat Oct 2014 #6
I was a single mom and I supported Democratic candidates. Kath1 Oct 2014 #7
Perhaps if Women bread-winners were paid the same men bread-winners... dballance Oct 2014 #9
And having child care would be nice. littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #16
Bingo riversedge Oct 2014 #18
+1000 nt laundry_queen Oct 2014 #25
What a maroon. SoapBox Oct 2014 #10
"Single women who have never married and don’t have children are also that way?" JDPriestly Oct 2014 #11
Exactly! Kath1 Oct 2014 #21
Single women and moms blame GOP men for being too creepy to wed. Take that! freshwest Oct 2014 #12
...slowly exits... littlemissmartypants Oct 2014 #17
Did you notice that it's always someone else's fault? vlyons Oct 2014 #13
I like your observation, and would like to extend it to ZombieHorde Oct 2014 #40
The GOP sure knows how to alienate women. Chemisse Oct 2014 #14
OMG I looked this guy up and BumRushDaShow Oct 2014 #19
no MFM008 Oct 2014 #20
If Rs were for equal wages, and left our uterus alone they might have something to say to women. jwirr Oct 2014 #23
Oh, the irony. EEO Oct 2014 #24
This right wing nut case has lost several elections before karynnj Oct 2014 #26
Wow! Jeff Bell just can't help himself. Eugene Oct 2014 #27
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2014 #28
Is this an admission that he favors policies that would threaten the survival of single women? surrealAmerican Oct 2014 #29
Republicans should start their campaign ads with, "First, I would like to say 'Fuck you to... yurbud Oct 2014 #32
Keep talking Jeff Bell, you douchebag. Keep talking. SunSeeker Oct 2014 #34
Like Bill Maher said NastyRiffraff Oct 2014 #35
Oops, Republicans are gonna need another Outreach to Women seminar. tclambert Oct 2014 #36
Mr. Bell understands his problem, but is stuck on Republican solutions that aren't solutions Jack Rabbit Oct 2014 #37
They had a candidate in NJ The Wizard Oct 2014 #38
Jeff Bell's seems to indirectly blame the decline in marriage on the democrats. mackerel Oct 2014 #39
I imagine he regrets women being allowed to vote at all daleo Oct 2014 #41
whenever I cut the cheese at a family gathering redruddyred Oct 2014 #42
Wrong, asshole. wildeyed Oct 2014 #43

Warpy

(111,283 posts)
8. This is probably from a guy who would die in his own filth
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 03:08 AM
Oct 2014

if he didn't have a woman to clean up after him.

yardwork

(61,666 posts)
33. That is patriarchy in action.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 11:38 AM
Oct 2014

All people must be married, according to the patriarchal code. If people are allowed to survive and even thrive on their own, how in the world can men be kings of their castles????!

Next we'll have single women earning their own livings!!!!! They won't listen to their fathers and husbands!!!! It's unbiblical!!!!!!!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
4. On the bright side, he apparently gets that "welfare queens" is not politically advantageous.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 01:32 AM
Oct 2014
as to his comment having a bright side, but not as to what Republicans mean when they say "single women."

It's all tied to the meme that Mitt was putting forward in that video, to the meme that cons love to put forward: The "takers" of government money vote Democratic, the producers of American wealth vote Republican.

mpcamb

(2,871 posts)
30. Or maybe he's making a bid for the Deadbeat Dad vote
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 10:44 AM
Oct 2014

Could be a major bloc that supports his ideas.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
22. this is so over the top it's kinda funny...gives a whole new meaning to "tone deaf."
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 08:51 AM
Oct 2014

Let me be the first to say that it seems these Republicans are the ones that are all "that way."

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
7. I was a single mom and I supported Democratic candidates.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 02:13 AM
Oct 2014

Not because of the benefits (I didn't receive any) but because, in general, Democratic candidates advance policies which are much more supportive of single mothers. And the younger single women without kids don't like all their talk about limiting access to contraception and abortion. Issues like equal pay and gay rights, among many others, play into it, also.

 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
9. Perhaps if Women bread-winners were paid the same men bread-winners...
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 03:10 AM
Oct 2014

He kind of makes the case that paying women less for the same work as men causes many of those women to seek assistance.

If we paid women head of households the same way we pay men head of households then perhaps many of those single women wouldn't have to seek any assistance.

Perhaps if we paid care-givers, nurses, house-keepers and other female-dominated positions a living wage they wouldn't have to seek assistance.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
11. "Single women who have never married and don’t have children are also that way?"
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 03:43 AM
Oct 2014

I beg to differ. A lot of single women who have never married and don't have children are very well educated, professionals, who earn more than the average guy in their age group. They don't need government hand-outs, but they do want to live in a compassionate society. I know several younger women who are like that.

What a poor excuse for losing the election.

This is not a guy you want in politics. He clearly does not collect evidence before making his decision.

And by the way, if the single mothers refuse to vote for him, what about the fathers of the children of the single mothers?

For every child has two parents. If the mother is single, then somewhere their is a father who should be helping to support the divided family -- at the very least with child support. Are the dads supporting this creep of a candidate?

What a sorry excuse for not appealing to voters.

This candidate does not belong in politics.

Kath1

(4,309 posts)
21. Exactly!
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 08:40 AM
Oct 2014

"They don't need government hand-outs, but they do want to live in a compassionate society."

Yes. MILLIONS of us feel that way!

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
12. Single women and moms blame GOP men for being too creepy to wed. Take that!
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 04:31 AM
Oct 2014
VAFFANCULO REPUBBLICANI !!!

~ Tx4obama

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
13. Did you notice that it's always someone else's fault?
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 04:58 AM
Oct 2014

There's nothing wrong with his campaign or his policy positions. It's all the fault of those sinful single women. This man is so ignorant it's pathetic.

ZombieHorde

(29,047 posts)
40. I like your observation, and would like to extend it to
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 06:59 PM
Oct 2014

those who blame liberal purists when Democrats lose elections.

BumRushDaShow

(129,152 posts)
19. OMG I looked this guy up and
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 07:13 AM
Oct 2014

as much as Peggy Noonan's name has been thrown around with respect to Raygun speech-writing, THIS is the guy who really did all the speech damage on behalf of Raygun (and goes all the way back to Nixon).

Thank goodness he is toast.

karynnj

(59,504 posts)
26. This right wing nut case has lost several elections before
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 09:42 AM
Oct 2014

I am sure the NJ Republicans were not happy when he won the primary, but it may be that they saw anyone running as a sacrificial lamb destined to lose. I remember him running against Bradley and later against Millicent Fenwick in the Republican primary.

Not sure if anyone ever polled it, but he might deserve credit for Bradley's career. Bradley lived in Morris county, one of the most Republican areas in NJ. The first office he ran for was the Senate seat and some local Democrats have said it was because he saw a state wide run more likely than a local Morris County Congressional run. Bell, unexpectedly defeated a respected 4 term liberal Republican, Clifford Case. You could say it was one of the earliest tea party primaries. I would assume that Case vs Bradley could well have ended with a Case win.

Response to TomCADem (Original post)

surrealAmerican

(11,362 posts)
29. Is this an admission that he favors policies that would threaten the survival of single women?
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 10:39 AM
Oct 2014

Does he really think that people who he would like to die would vote for him?

yurbud

(39,405 posts)
32. Republicans should start their campaign ads with, "First, I would like to say 'Fuck you to...
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 11:28 AM
Oct 2014

the following people: blacks, women, gays, muslims, Latinos, atheists, non-fundamentalist Christians, the handicapped, non-racist whites, poor whites who don't think they're about to win the lottery, and seventeen other groups to be named at a later date."

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
35. Like Bill Maher said
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 12:24 PM
Oct 2014

New Rule: Anyone posting something sarcastic must label it as such, since it's getting almost impossible to tell.

We do it on DU; over and over again you see "Not The Onion" followed by something completely ridiculous some GOP idiot has said.

The funniest part of this is “I’ve done a lot of thinking about this" Really? Really Jeff? You've thought and thought and this is what you came up with?

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
36. Oops, Republicans are gonna need another Outreach to Women seminar.
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 12:41 PM
Oct 2014

Better throw in a couple of seminars about minorities, too, 'cause you know he's just one question away from explaining "the problem with the negro."

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
37. Mr. Bell understands his problem, but is stuck on Republican solutions that aren't solutions
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 01:28 PM
Oct 2014

Until a light goes on over his head and he can "aha!" and other Republicans come to the same epiphany, the GOP is going to have this problem with single mothers, especially single mothers who are more at risk at falling into abject poverty with their children.

It isn't a matter of whether they've never been married or have been married and the marriage didn't work out. They're single, they're on their own with their children in tow. An economically unstable ex-husband is little more likely to provide financial support than economically unstable husband or boyfriend living in the house. Mr. Bell should realize that to a person trying to survive, that person will do what is necessary, including selling drugs or prostitution. Public assistance beats that, if one can survive on it. A mother with small children will be just that much more desperate to survive and to survive with her children.

What have Republicans -- or third-way Democrats, for that matter -- done for these mothers and their children? Well, they reformed welfare, but it was reform aimed at appealing to white racist voters by punishing poor people for being poor and putting more pressure on them to climb out of poverty with no help from society. The politicians, such as Newt Gingrich, who passed that legislation didn't care about poor people and would just as well have them starve on the streets. Otherwise all they do is slut shame single mothers for not being married, then complain that they vote for Democrats (if they vote at all). Well, Mr. Bell, they're not going to vote for you as long as you're singing from the Ronald Reagan songbook.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
38. They had a candidate in NJ
Sat Oct 11, 2014, 05:12 PM
Oct 2014

a few years ago. He was accused of trying to jam his tongue down a female staffer's throat. He settled out of court and left the political arena. Some people nicknamed him Chuck "The Tongue" Haytaian.

 

redruddyred

(1,615 posts)
42. whenever I cut the cheese at a family gathering
Sun Oct 12, 2014, 02:27 AM
Oct 2014

I blame it on the pooch.

after all, he can't defend himself.

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