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angka

(1,599 posts)
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:51 PM Oct 2014

CO-GOV: Beauprez: "IUDs are abortifacient"

Source: Colorado Independent

Hickenlooper noted that former Congressman Beauprez is a pro-life Catholic who has voted to end abortion in the past. Then he asked whether, if elected, he would end the Colorado Family Planning Initiative.

That initiative, Hickenlooper explained, provides free implant and IUD contraception and has lowered the Colorado teen pregnancy rate by 40 percent in some counties (the largest drop in the country) and the abortion rate in the same population by 35 percent.

Beauprez said he couldn’t support the program because he believes life begins at conception, that he doesn’t support public funding for “abortifacient” contraception and that IUDs are abortifacients.

Read more: http://www.coloradoindependent.com/149581/beauprez-would-end-programs-providing-teen-contraception-immigrant-drivers-licenses



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Warpy

(111,261 posts)
1. Hey, Stupid!
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:54 PM
Oct 2014

No implantation = no pregnancy

No pregnancy = no abortion

In any case, most IUDs contain hormones to suppress ovulation. No egg = nothing to fertilize.

volstork

(5,401 posts)
4. IUDs actually
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:03 PM
Oct 2014

prevent fertilization by making the cavity of the uterus inhospitable to sperm (ie-- they are killed in the uterus). Ovulation still takes place, but the egg doesn't get fertilized (even with hormonal IUDs).

They don't give a rat's ass about what is medically true, nor do they know or seem to care that 30% of all pregnancies end in miscarriage. So, following their logic and definitions, god is the busiest abortionist around...

Ms. Toad

(34,072 posts)
11. Only the copper ones work that way
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 07:46 PM
Oct 2014

The hormonal IUDs work both by making the cervical mucous impenetrable (i.e. no fertilization) and also preventing implantation of the fertilized egg. http://www.webmd.com/sex/birth-control/iud-intrauterine-device

volstork

(5,401 posts)
18. Um
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 11:48 AM
Oct 2014

I'm a gynecologist.
The features you list ARE associated with the hormonal IUDs, but the primary method of action is incapacitation of sperm in the uterine cavity.

From the ACOG (American College of OB/Gyn) website:

"Both types of IUDs work mainly by preventing fertilization of the egg by the sperm. The hormonal IUD also thickens cervical mucus, which makes it harder for sperm to enter the uterus and fertilize the egg, and keeps the lining of the uterus thin, which makes it less likely that a fertilized egg will attach to it."

Ms. Toad

(34,072 posts)
19. From your earlier post:
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:25 PM
Oct 2014

but the egg doesn't get fertilized (even with hormonal IUDs).

You left out any qualification (which you are not making, and implying was there all the time). I was not contending that the primary mode of action was to prevent implantation of the fertilized egg - but it sometimes is. The post of yours I was responding to flatly denied that mode of action.

RKP5637

(67,108 posts)
2. Is this the same guy that wants all sperm collected as life if not used for fertilization?
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:55 PM
Oct 2014


Makes about as much sense.

Crowman1979

(3,844 posts)
3. I refuse to listen to anything said by these pro-life Catholics.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 05:57 PM
Oct 2014

When they get priests to stop raping children, then I'll listen.

CanonRay

(14,101 posts)
6. The Colorado Republicans are much like those in Oregon
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:08 PM
Oct 2014

where I live now...they are old and worn out, keep re-treading the same idiots election after election. Here we have Both-Ways Bob again. In Oregon is Art Robinson for the umpteenth time.

calimary

(81,267 posts)
8. For God's Sake, a car crash can be an abortifacient if there's a pregnant woman
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 06:19 PM
Oct 2014

seated in the wrong place. Forcryingoutloud - should we do away with all cars and decent roads then? SHEESH!!!!!!

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
15. People like Beauprez . . .
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:48 PM
Oct 2014

Are part of the reason why I returned to Methodism. My patience finally wore out.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
16. The eternal question:
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 08:15 AM
Oct 2014

Is he an asshole who hates women, a corrupt tool of the powerful who find such myths useful, or simply a dumbass?

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