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7962

(11,841 posts)
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:05 PM Sep 2014

Prosecutor: Co-Worker Had Altercation With Beheading Suspect ‘About Him Not Liking White People’

Source: CBS Houston

NORMAN, Okla. (AP) — An Oklahoma man apparently uttered Arabic words during an attack in which he allegedly severed a co-worker’s head, and had “some sort of infatuation with beheadings,” but the killing appeared to have more to do with the man’s suspension from his job than his recent conversion to Islam, a prosecutor said Tuesday.
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“There was some sort of infatuation with beheadings. It seemed to be related to his interest in killing someone that way,” Cleveland County Prosecutor Greg Mashburn said. “Other than that, it seemed to be related to his being suspended earlier in the day.”
Mashburn said the human resources department at the Vaughan Foods plant in Moore had suspended Nolen earlier Thursday after another co-worker, Traci Johnson, had complained she had had an altercation with Nolen “about him not liking white people.”

“It had more to do with race rather than trying to convert people,” Mashburn said. He said there was a “back and forth with Ms. Johnson and that led her to make a complaint to the HR department.”

Read more: http://houston.cbslocal.com/2014/09/30/prosecutor-co-worker-had-altercation-with-beheading-suspect-about-him-not-liking-white-people/

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Prosecutor: Co-Worker Had Altercation With Beheading Suspect ‘About Him Not Liking White People’ (Original Post) 7962 Sep 2014 OP
Thank GOD it was only an infatuation with beheadings Sopkoviak Sep 2014 #1
LOL nt strawberries Oct 2014 #17
"It seemed to be related to his interest in killing someone that way" arcane1 Sep 2014 #2
The motor vehicle accident christx30 Oct 2014 #20
He did not like white people, he had recently converted to Islam, he was angry about being suspended jwirr Sep 2014 #3
Looks more like racism than Islamism. 7962 Sep 2014 #5
Looks more like insanity. Fred Sanders Sep 2014 #7
Wonder how they prove that? 7962 Sep 2014 #8
The judicial system actually has a well known and well used protocol for folks with mental illness. Fred Sanders Oct 2014 #10
Jah' Keem Yisrael must have been filled with rage to do that. Rhinodawg Sep 2014 #4
But I thought it was impossible to be racist against whites? Nye Bevan Sep 2014 #6
Individually yes, systematically not yet alp227 Oct 2014 #9
Post removed Post removed Oct 2014 #11
Its already systemic in some cities. 7962 Oct 2014 #12
You mean where the county seat is Atlanta - right - eom JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #13
And that matters because.....? 7962 Oct 2014 #14
Yep I did look it up already JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #15
Precisely. Both Atlanta & Fulton Co govt are controlled by blacks. 7962 Oct 2014 #18
How many places like that in America? JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #19
Detroit comes to mind - 39 consecutive years with a black mayor hack89 Oct 2014 #21
Wonder what color JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #24
Wonder how in the world you could FIND that? 7962 Oct 2014 #22
Syracuse is not JustAnotherGen Oct 2014 #25
All racists are bigots, but by no means are all bigots racist... LanternWaste Oct 2014 #16
Very good point 7962 Oct 2014 #23
not at all impossible noiretextatique Oct 2014 #26

christx30

(6,241 posts)
20. The motor vehicle accident
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:52 PM
Oct 2014

seemed to be related to that car hitting the light pole.
Joe's collection of Beatles albums seems to be related to his membership in the john Lennon fan club.
Mike's death by starvation seems to be related to his lack of food.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
3. He did not like white people, he had recently converted to Islam, he was angry about being suspended
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:19 PM
Sep 2014

and he had an argument with the girl. Is there any reason why they can't all be a part of the reason? The only question I have is what type of Islam? Is he connected to ISIS or is it just a coincidence that he is infatuated with beheadings? If not then you can take the Islam out of the above list as a reason.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
5. Looks more like racism than Islamism.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:46 PM
Sep 2014

Although his conversion could very well have started it all.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
10. The judicial system actually has a well known and well used protocol for folks with mental illness.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 10:45 AM
Oct 2014

Forensic psychiatry can provide the answer.

 

Rhinodawg

(2,219 posts)
4. Jah' Keem Yisrael must have been filled with rage to do that.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:41 PM
Sep 2014

Did he feel oppressed or slighted ? We may never know.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
6. But I thought it was impossible to be racist against whites?
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 08:55 PM
Sep 2014

I'm sure I read that somewhere here on DU.

alp227

(32,025 posts)
9. Individually yes, systematically not yet
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 12:12 AM
Oct 2014

(but don't tell the "anti racist is a code word for anti white" drones!)

Basically, anti-white racism in reality is limited to the New Black Panther Party and fringe nuts not mainstream culture. But on Fox News and talk radio you will find plenty of shameless bigotry against non whites.

Response to alp227 (Reply #9)

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
12. Its already systemic in some cities.
Wed Oct 1, 2014, 01:12 PM
Oct 2014

You need look no further than Fulton Co GA. They've lost discrimination suits filed by whites. And its blatant too. The latest was just a few months ago
And there are a lot of people who listen to farrakan, who is another openly racist individual. Its not "fringe" at all depending on where you live.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
15. Yep I did look it up already
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 12:59 PM
Oct 2014

They have interesting demographics there . . . not the usual for the US by and large.

It is what is - the numbers speak for themselves.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
18. Precisely. Both Atlanta & Fulton Co govt are controlled by blacks.
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:09 PM
Oct 2014

Have been for years. No surprise considering the demographics. But they have also had to pay out millions because of several lost cases of discrimination against whites. The worst being the Atlanta library board case, which cost 25 Million! So discrimination can be systemic for any race depending on WHO is the minority.
I just cant figure out why its so hard or some to admit that.

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
19. How many places like that in America?
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:38 PM
Oct 2014

Where the blacks run amok all over the whites. That would be an interesting topic.

We should work together to craft that information. Would be pretty interesting. Epic thread.

hack89

(39,171 posts)
21. Detroit comes to mind - 39 consecutive years with a black mayor
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:58 PM
Oct 2014

until 2013.

Three of the last four Philadelphia mayors have been black

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
24. Wonder what color
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 02:16 PM
Oct 2014

All the mayors are around the City of Detroit - after white flight.

Atlanta is interesting - I know too many people (black folks, well educated, professional) that have moved down there the past 10/12 years from the Great Lakes area . My uncle also pulled up shop from Birmingham in the late 80s and moved himself and his business to Atlanta because Birmingham was just still too anti black people at that time.

So basically you've had a large influx of affluent, well educated blacks into the Atlanta area - and I wonder what the crime rate is of Atlanta vs that of Detroit?

I just find Atlanta an odd choice for many reasons. It's just one of those places that even I considered moving to for better financial and social opportunities because it does have a bit of a reputation for being the black elite mecca.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
22. Wonder how in the world you could FIND that?
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 02:07 PM
Oct 2014

The only reason I know about Atlanta/Fulton Co is because I live in ga and of course its news here. I've never seen ANY of the stories in national media. A quick google search turns up cases in Syracuse, Flint Mi, Maryland, etc, but no compiled figures.
But honestly, do you really think a thread like that would last around here? We cant even agree on whether or not Putin is wrong on Ukraine!

JustAnotherGen

(31,823 posts)
25. Syracuse is not
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 02:20 PM
Oct 2014

Not affluent and black - not by any stretch. Syracuse (I'm from Rochester originally and we tend to move a great deal in between Cuse to Buff) - is a city in trouble. Many in the Great Lakes are.

It never would have occured to me to move 45 minutes down the road in 2006 to Syracuse for better opportunities. Atlanta had it. Houston had it. Greater NYC area.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. All racists are bigots, but by no means are all bigots racist...
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 01:01 PM
Oct 2014

All racists are bigots, but by no means are all bigots racist. Learning the difference between the two in this context is the first step into rational thought...

noiretextatique

(27,275 posts)
26. not at all impossible
Thu Oct 2, 2014, 08:04 PM
Oct 2014

remember all the black people who demonstrated against bush? they are just like the koch-funded tea-baggers having said that, clearly this guy was prejudiced against black people

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