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big_dog

(4,144 posts)
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:56 PM Sep 2014

ISIS Militants Less Than 2 Miles From Baghdad, Fierce Fighting Reported Near Iraqi Capital

Source: NY Daily News Monday, September 29, 2014, 5:57 PM

Fierce fighting has gotten closer and closer to Baghdad, with some reports saying the Islamic State is within one mile of the city limits.

The Vicar of Baghdad sent an SOS from the besieged Iraqi capital Monday and warned that the murderous Islamic State militants were breathing down their necks. “People are very fearful the nation looks as if it has collapsed,” Canon Andrew White, who runs the last Anglican church in Iraq, wrote on his Facebook page. “The usual hectic and crazy streets were this morning almost empty.”

White, who also heads British-based charity Foundation for Relief and Reconciliation in the Middle East, made the social media post before Iraqi forces — backed by airstrikes from the U.S.-led coalition — appeared to stymie the ISIS advance. But according to White, the Islamic fanatics were less than two miles from the city’s borders and he warned that the Iraqi Army was no match for them.

“This morning I was with one of my soldiers who is assigned by the government to protect me,” White wrote. “I asked him what he would do if he saw ISIS coming. He told me he would take off his uniform and run.”
'They said it could never happen and now it almost has,' the Foundation for Relief and Reconciliation in the Middle East said Monday regarding ISIS' reportedly close proximity to Baghdad. 'They said it could never happen and now it almost has,' the Foundation for Relief and Reconciliation in the Middle East said Monday regarding ISIS' reportedly close proximity to Baghdad.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/isis-militants-mile-baghdad-fierce-fighting-reported-article-1.1956646

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ISIS Militants Less Than 2 Miles From Baghdad, Fierce Fighting Reported Near Iraqi Capital (Original Post) big_dog Sep 2014 OP
So much for "Nothing to see here, move along, this is an invention..." ...unless they're a mirage..? MADem Sep 2014 #1
Hey. when the Vicar of Baghdad speaks hotdamn00 Sep 2014 #3
Andrew White is actually a decent guy. MADem Sep 2014 #9
the junior varsity is doing pretty good! ...nt quadrature Sep 2014 #2
It's the leader of the opposing team who is not ballyhoo Sep 2014 #4
let the civilians 'soak-up' the damage? quadrature Sep 2014 #5
No. I meant with these targeted air ballyhoo Sep 2014 #10
your point is well taken ... nt quadrature Sep 2014 #11
Well according to whomever is reporting then they are losing ground... Historic NY Sep 2014 #6
The Vicar of Bagdad has good sources and a good handle on what is going on. hrmjustin Sep 2014 #7
not good drray23 Sep 2014 #8
An Iranian invasion would be the best "occurrence" right now. roamer65 Sep 2014 #12
It got rid of of Pol Pot and the KR from the capital, Phnom Penh. former9thward Sep 2014 #19
I've read lots of examples of Iraqi miltary running away from the threat. bloomington-lib Sep 2014 #13
wrong. these people are tribal. quadrature Sep 2014 #14
I don't care if its tribal or not jamzrockz Sep 2014 #15
About 1920 or so a group of upstanding Legionairres in the town of Centralia, WA, decided jtuck004 Oct 2014 #22
Airdrop the PNAC and the rest of the neocons in there ASAP. Hubert Flottz Sep 2014 #16
Now we are seeing why Bush 41 stopped at the Kuwait-Iraq border in 1991. roamer65 Sep 2014 #17
Sunni-Shia General MidEast War of 2011-16 . quadrature Sep 2014 #18
It was Cheney that stopped the advance in GW1. BobbyBoring Sep 2014 #20
Sleeper cells are already in the city. candelista Sep 2014 #21
Okay, now what happens to these guys? freshwest Oct 2014 #23
ISIS is going to have fun rummaging through that billion dollar US embassy... Sancho Oct 2014 #24

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. So much for "Nothing to see here, move along, this is an invention..." ...unless they're a mirage..?
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:59 PM
Sep 2014
 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
4. It's the leader of the opposing team who is not
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:07 PM
Sep 2014

doing so good. If IS breeches Baghdad, the coalition of the ghosts may end up having to kill some innocents.

 

quadrature

(2,049 posts)
5. let the civilians 'soak-up' the damage?
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:16 PM
Sep 2014

reminds me of the Columbine shoot up.

why risk it.
wait till the bad guys run out of ammo.

EDIT, this is sarcasm

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
10. No. I meant with these targeted air
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:22 PM
Sep 2014

attacks. The bad guys will not run out of ammo until the manufacturers stop making it, which will be never- The one thing I'm wondering is if boots are definitely coming to the ground, or there now, how well will they do with an enemy who may be use much of the same weapons they are using themselves against a people who think dying is fun.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
7. The Vicar of Bagdad has good sources and a good handle on what is going on.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:17 PM
Sep 2014

They are in my prayers.

drray23

(7,633 posts)
8. not good
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:19 PM
Sep 2014

Its becoming more and more likely we are going to drop troops in if that is really the case. So much for no boots on the ground.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
12. An Iranian invasion would be the best "occurrence" right now.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:08 PM
Sep 2014

That would probably be the best route to stop the bloodshed in Baghdad and south of former Iraq.

Just like the Vietnamese invasion of Cambodia in 1979 got rid of Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge.

former9thward

(32,025 posts)
19. It got rid of of Pol Pot and the KR from the capital, Phnom Penh.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 11:35 AM
Sep 2014

But that was all. It (and he) still ruled the countryside for a generation. I was in Cambodia in 1992 and had to use a puddle jumper to get around because the KR controlled the roadways in the rural areas.

bloomington-lib

(946 posts)
13. I've read lots of examples of Iraqi miltary running away from the threat.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:11 PM
Sep 2014

I'm not so sure that would happen here. I have the feeling (maybe a false feeling) that people here would die trying to protect their city, neighborhood, and home. If there actually is a difference, I wonder what it is.

 

quadrature

(2,049 posts)
14. wrong. these people are tribal.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:17 PM
Sep 2014

tribal militias will fight for their
own neighborhood.

the army is mostly a joke.

 

jamzrockz

(1,333 posts)
15. I don't care if its tribal or not
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:27 PM
Sep 2014

anyone fighting with ISIS is scum and I hope their victory prize will be to be ruled by the likes of ISIS. People just don't understand that their situation can always get worse. They somehow believe that just because things are bad now, any change will bring about a better situation or chance for it.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
22. About 1920 or so a group of upstanding Legionairres in the town of Centralia, WA, decided
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 09:41 PM
Oct 2014

they were gonna break up the IWW hall in town. They attacked, it was defended, and one of the defenders, Wesley Everest, killed a few of the attackers among whom was the son of a prominent official. He was taken to jail.

Some of the fine upstanding citizens took him out of jail with the assistance of the police, pulled his penis off on the way to a local bridge, hung him once but the rope was too short, so they dropped him again. Stomped his fingers as they grabbed the track to avoid hanging, watched him squirm as he was suffocated by the ill-placed rope. When he was dead they shot him twice for good measure.

Those fine upstanding citizens went on to make the armpit of Centralia, WA what is is today. There is a write up on the Internet where one attests to the businessmen of later days laughing about the coroner's report in which he "escaped from the jail then committed suicide by hanging himself twice and then shooting himself".

No better than ISIS. Along with people who bomb little girls, and others, in churches. And the ass clown that left the backpack to blow up in Spokane, or the one in Boston. And a few others. And Ted Cruz.

We are the moral paragons that are going to tell them how wrong they are? We can't even raise black kids and promise them they aren't going to be gunned down in the street simply for the color of their skin, targets, overt racism enabled by the community who doesn't stop it.

Our bumblefooting created the nursery that grew them around Iraq, and we installed the atmosphere that continues to foster them. It is highly unlikely that we are going to come up with the solution.

Hubert Flottz

(37,726 posts)
16. Airdrop the PNAC and the rest of the neocons in there ASAP.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:56 PM
Sep 2014

They know how to accomplish a mission, ASAP. They broke it let them fix it!

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
17. Now we are seeing why Bush 41 stopped at the Kuwait-Iraq border in 1991.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:05 PM
Sep 2014

Too bad his dimwit son didn't have the same wisdom.

BobbyBoring

(1,965 posts)
20. It was Cheney that stopped the advance in GW1.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:17 PM
Sep 2014

He knew what would happen if Saddam was out.
The one time in his life he was right.

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
21. Sleeper cells are already in the city.
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 12:50 PM
Sep 2014

They have been there since at least July. That means the US will have to bomb Baghdad "in order to save it."

BBC video here:

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
23. Okay, now what happens to these guys?
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 10:13 PM
Oct 2014
Obama orders more troops to protect U.S. embassy in Baghdad

By Will Dunham - September 2, 2014

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – President Barack Obama has ordered an increase of about 350 troops in Baghdad to protect the U.S. Embassy in the Iraqi capital and is sending top officials to the Middle East to “build a stronger regional partnership” against Islamic State militants, the White House said on Tuesday.

The actions reflect the growing U.S. concern about the threat posed by the Sunni Muslim militants who have captured parts of Iraq and Syria, and came on the same day that Islamic State released a video purporting to show its beheading of a second American hostage.

The White House said the additional troops heading to Baghdad would not serve in a combat role.

Rear Admiral John Kirby, the Pentagon press secretary, said the move to augment a U.S. force already in Baghdad providing security at the large embassy compound and its support facilities would bring the total number of military personnel to bolster diplomatic security in Iraq to about 820.


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/02/obama-orders-more-troops-to-protect-u-s-embassy-in-baghdad/

Haven't heard any news about them lately.

Sancho

(9,070 posts)
24. ISIS is going to have fun rummaging through that billion dollar US embassy...
Wed Oct 8, 2014, 10:35 PM
Oct 2014

just like they are grateful for the US weapons we left for them, and the US technology that pumps oil, etc., etc.

It's time to get out people out...reminds me of the stories and reports from Hanoi.

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