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Omaha Steve

(99,660 posts)
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:53 AM Sep 2014

Survey: ATM, checking account overdraft fees surge

Source: AP-EXCITE

By ALEX VEIGA

LOS ANGELES (AP) — Banks are reaping bigger fees whenever customers overdraw their checking accounts or use ATMs that are not affiliated with their lender, a new survey shows.

The average fee for using an out-of-network ATM climbed 5 percent over the past year to a new high of $4.35 per transaction, according to a survey released Monday by Bankrate.com.

Overdraft fees also surged, rising on average over the past 12 months to $32.74. That's the 16th consecutive record high, the firm said.

Checking account fees have been increasing as lenders adjust to federal banking laws and regulations enacted after the 2008 financial crisis. Among the changes: limits on when banks can charge overdraft fees on ATM and debit card transactions and a reduction in the fees that banks charge merchants for each customer who uses credit or debit cards for their purchases.

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Survey: ATM, checking account overdraft fees surge (Original Post) Omaha Steve Sep 2014 OP
This just makes me sick.....and sooooooooo mad.... a kennedy Sep 2014 #1
Today nobody should be paying fees yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #5
Good idea. Now if only I had a 1000 to put in savings. nt Sivafae Sep 2014 #16
What? yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #19
Sounds good, but I can't seem to fit in any Credit union charter at the moment. Xyzse Sep 2014 #21
I am going to investigate. I understand the requirements of some. yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #22
Thank you. Xyzse Sep 2014 #23
Some states have credit unions, some advertise for "state employees"... Agschmid Sep 2014 #34
Some banks do offer the line of credit YarnAddict Sep 2014 #27
I actually already have that. Xyzse Sep 2014 #31
My credit union offers overdraft protection tammywammy Sep 2014 #24
Smart move YarnAddict Sep 2014 #28
Kwik Trip here... mockmonkey Sep 2014 #10
Mmm QT does charge if you are not using Wells Fargo .. that's here in ATL YOHABLO Sep 2014 #25
My father called his bank after a ridiculous fee and told them he could get better rates... EEO Sep 2014 #2
. ReRe Sep 2014 #14
Typical tazkcmo Sep 2014 #3
It's why I like living overseas rpannier Sep 2014 #4
It's a little more in Japan Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #33
Yeah. Japan is right across from me rpannier Sep 2014 #35
Well, the yen has lost quite a bit of ground against the dollar in the past 3 years or so, Art_from_Ark Sep 2014 #36
I worked for BofA strawberries Sep 2014 #6
overdraft fees - yeah that was probably me guys, sorry.... CarrieLynne Sep 2014 #7
Someone in the gov mentioned Post Office banks for 'the people', when will those banks open? Sunlei Sep 2014 #8
5 pounds per day in UK if overdrawn EEK Lenomsky Sep 2014 #9
Ridiculous davidthegnome Sep 2014 #11
This is why the banks oppose the payday lenders so strongly. They want to be able to rip people off Arkansas Granny Sep 2014 #12
Payday loan places YarnAddict Sep 2014 #29
I just got a settlement check Epiphany4z Sep 2014 #13
Good for you. CrispyQ Sep 2014 #20
Join a credit union if available in your area. I stopped corporate banking over 14 years Purveyor Sep 2014 #15
I Stopped RobinA Sep 2014 #17
When corruption is reined in, and profits fall, Trillo Sep 2014 #18
HAH! I worked as an accountant for several different companies, napi21 Sep 2014 #30
Banking has changed a lot YarnAddict Sep 2014 #26
Our CU offers a overdraft protection tied to our savings account... Earth_First Sep 2014 #32

a kennedy

(29,673 posts)
1. This just makes me sick.....and sooooooooo mad....
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 08:58 AM
Sep 2014
We use our ATM cards a lot, and thank gawd our "quik trip" convenience stores don't charge a fee so we use them a lot. Our Credit Union only has a few branches for us around our city to use, so the convenience stores are our first choice. I think this travesty could be in Elizabeth Warren's wheel house.
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
5. Today nobody should be paying fees
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:30 AM
Sep 2014

I haven't paid a fee in twenty years. First go with a credit union. Find one that does not charge a monthly fee. They are out there. Second. Get overdraft protection. 1000 dollars should be enough. Third. Instead of using an ATM, use the service at the store that allows you to get cash back on your purchases. You often can get up to a hundred dollars a day. It is the silliest thing I have ever seen paying an ATM to take out money. For the record. The closest ATM my credit union has for me is 25 miles away so I don't get there often, but there are millions of ways to survive living with no fees.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
19. What?
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 12:49 PM
Sep 2014

A thousand dollars? You sign up at a credit union for 5 dollars. Good grief. The thousand I was talking about is a line of credit that covers you if you fall short during different times.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
21. Sounds good, but I can't seem to fit in any Credit union charter at the moment.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 03:33 PM
Sep 2014

So it makes it hard to join one.

I looked around, none would have me.

I am not in the military, not part of a school system or anything.

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
22. I am going to investigate. I understand the requirements of some.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 04:01 PM
Sep 2014

Give me 24 hours and I will DU e-mail and see what we can come up with.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
23. Thank you.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 04:05 PM
Sep 2014

I tried going for a credit union at some point, but I wasn't sure what I was qualified as.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
34. Some states have credit unions, some advertise for "state employees"...
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 01:26 AM
Sep 2014

But will take anyone, I know one such CU in Mass. If you are near there.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
27. Some banks do offer the line of credit
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:44 PM
Sep 2014

the one I worked for charged a $20 annual maintenance fee. I signed up for $1000 or so for when we were traveling. Don't think there was a charge for signing up.

It's really worth looking into. You can apply for as much credit as you think you might need, and approval is like any other loan. If this is just to cover overdrafts, it probably wouldn't have to be very much.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
31. I actually already have that.
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:34 PM
Sep 2014

I just wanted to be part of a Credit Union for the sake of being in one.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
24. My credit union offers overdraft protection
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 05:30 PM
Sep 2014

If I overdraw my account for a mere $35 per transaction they'll cover up to $5000 in transactions.

Overdraft is now, thankfully, an opt-in choice. I declined it.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
28. Smart move
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:49 PM
Sep 2014

What banks were doing was allowing people to use their debit cards basically without limits. Said it was to avoid customer embarassment. But, what was happening was that if you didn't realize your account was overdrawn, you could rack up literally hundreds of dollars in overdraft fees! My bank charged $32/overdraft. Gas, lunch, K-mart, grocery store--all of a sudden you were in a hole that was difficult to dig your way out of!

The law changed, and you now have the option of having a business decline your debit card, if your account doesn't have enough funds. I always recommended that people choose the decline option.

EEO

(1,620 posts)
2. My father called his bank after a ridiculous fee and told them he could get better rates...
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:11 AM
Sep 2014

from the mafia.

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
3. Typical
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:13 AM
Sep 2014

Yet people (Includes my Sons) leave their money in these predatory banks like Wells Fargo, B of A, etc when there are ample alternatives. My bank has refunds up to $15.00 in ATM fees every month and I have no over draft because I have no checks and they never engaged in the CDS, high risk loan game that started all this mess. Shop around if you can folks.

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
4. It's why I like living overseas
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:28 AM
Sep 2014

If I go to a bank outside mine it's about 70 cents
If I use the ATM at the post office it's free

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
33. It's a little more in Japan
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 01:20 AM
Sep 2014

The fee for withdrawing money from an outside bank can range from $1 to $4, depending on the banks involved and whether or not one or both of them charge a transaction fee.

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
35. Yeah. Japan is right across from me
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 01:40 AM
Sep 2014

Everything is more expensive -- sadly
I like going to Japan on vacation
But the won doesn't go as far there as the Yen does here

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
36. Well, the yen has lost quite a bit of ground against the dollar in the past 3 years or so,
Tue Sep 30, 2014, 01:49 AM
Sep 2014

going from about 76 yen to the dollar to around 110 to the dollar. And in this month alone, the yen has lost a bit against the won as well, going from about 101.8 yen per 1000 won to around 103 yen per 1000 won today. But yeah, I could still take my yen to Korea and feel so much richer.

 

strawberries

(498 posts)
6. I worked for BofA
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 09:54 AM
Sep 2014

for 13 years in IT. Our bonus were built in each year based on bank fees. I used to get 10K bonus and the big guys god only knows what they got.

Just thought I would share

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
8. Someone in the gov mentioned Post Office banks for 'the people', when will those banks open?
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:29 AM
Sep 2014

I want to get away from Chase. They have triggerpoints for fees on everything.

Lenomsky

(340 posts)
9. 5 pounds per day in UK if overdrawn EEK
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:39 AM
Sep 2014

No fee's to use any ATM though regardless of Bank although some private ATM's exist especially in London and you get charges anywhere from 1 to 4 pounds per withdrawal but I wouldn;t use one if it only cost 1p.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
11. Ridiculous
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:55 AM
Sep 2014

When I was younger, I thought having a debit card was pretty neat. I never used credit cards, because I watched my parents struggle with the debt.

The older I get though, the more inclined I am to trust only cash, only paper money. I have a pretty decent bank, small and local... but even they have some pretty absurd fees. So I don't have more than a few dollars in right now, and probably wouldn't put much in even if I could.

What I'm curious about with the ATM transaction fees though, is how much the owner/s of the establishment using them profits. For example, a small gas station... there's a three dollar fee or so for each transaction. How much goes to the store owner - and where does the rest of it go? To the bank? To some third party company?

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
12. This is why the banks oppose the payday lenders so strongly. They want to be able to rip people off
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:56 AM
Sep 2014

instead of letting someone else do it.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
29. Payday loan places
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:51 PM
Sep 2014

are far worse than banks!!! The charge exhorbitant rates. Avoid them at all costs!!!

Epiphany4z

(2,234 posts)
13. I just got a settlement check
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 10:57 AM
Sep 2014

from US bank. I had stopped using them like 5 yrs ago because they were staking and putting threw checks to maximize the fees. If I wrote 3 checks that where covered and made a mistake the next day on a 4th check they push the fourth check through first and then the other 3 so instead of one overdraft I had 3. Instead of paying $33 for the one overdraft I had to pay$99 for 3 of them.

Well this week some 5yrs later I got my $99 back in a settlement
check.

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
17. I Stopped
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 12:25 PM
Sep 2014

corporate banking, but my credit union still charges an ATM fee for non-participating ATMs. Which is most. Luckily I have one near me that's in this consortium of CUs that don't charge fees at their machines, but if I leave my immediate area and need an ATM, it's fee time.

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
18. When corruption is reined in, and profits fall,
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 12:32 PM
Sep 2014

banks must charge more.

I can't help but think this is another example where poor folks are hit so much harder than the wealthy. It is essentially hidden taxation.

If you're a business, and your account is overdrawn, you can deduct your fee. Why can't average citizens deduct these charges? The game is so rigged.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
30. HAH! I worked as an accountant for several different companies,
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:55 PM
Sep 2014

one large and 3 smaller. When they OD their account, all they did was call the bank and get them to increase their line of credit. NONE of them ever paid a late fee to ANYONE, or any bank fees other than those negotiated wiwth the bank account, like a per check fee on deposits (usually about 1/4 to 1/2 a cent). This fee game is strictly for the average joe.

I got pissed at them quite a few years ago and switched to a credit union. I checked all those available and found several I would quality to join, then reviewed what they had to offer to find the best fit. After being with them for well over 7 years, I have yet to be anywhere that I didn't find a free ATM.

I do however use my credit card almost all the time. I have a card that gives you money back on all your purchases, and I request a check for $100 plus every few months. I don't worry about interest rates because I always pay off the balance at the end of every month. I wasn't always able to do that and I handled things differently then.

 

YarnAddict

(1,850 posts)
26. Banking has changed a lot
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 07:41 PM
Sep 2014

and you have to stay on top of your account.

We had an account at the bank where I used to work that offered a free checking account if you had a mortgage of over $75,000. No problem. BUT because our interest rate was so low, the mortgage paid down a lot quicker than we thought, and with no notice they started charging us $15/month for an account we rarely use! Didn't catch it for three months. We were able to change to an account that is free as long as you get e-statements, but probably won't get our $45 back.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
32. Our CU offers a overdraft protection tied to our savings account...
Mon Sep 29, 2014, 11:49 PM
Sep 2014

In addition to the $500 overdraft protection to our checking account that we utilize as our debit card account.

Additionally, our CU has reciprocal ATM benefits with two other local CU's for no-fee withdrawals.

Lastly, membership is available to new members by simply being a family member of a current member. Just sign up with your family member as your sponsor/reference.

I know mileage will vary from union to union, however we hit a home run with our local CU!

How people still bank with the corporate banks is beyond me.

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