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Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:08 AM Sep 2014

Sean Groubert, South Carolina State Trooper, Fired , Arrested After Shooting Unarmed Man

Source: Huff Post

A South Carolina state trooper was fired last week and arrested on Wednesday after a dashcam video showed him shooting an unarmed man during a routine traffic stop.

Former officer Sean Groubert, 31, is seen in the newly released video pulling over Levar Edward Jones. The clip, which was recorded on Groubert's dashcam on Sept. 4, shows Jones getting out of his vehicle at a gas station in Columbia.

Groubert asks Jones for his driver's license. As Jones reaches into his vehicle to retrieve it, Groubert shouts, "Get out of the car!"

When Jones complies and starts to back away from the vehicle, Groubert opens fire. Three shots can be heard; Jones was hit at least once, in the hip."I was just getting my license," Jones says. He also apologizes repeatedly, and asks, "Sir, why was I shot? All I did was reach for my license. I'm coming from work



Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/25/sean-groubert-fired-arrested_n_5879694.html



Shot while following orders from a cop.
Cop Fired and arrested. ...Yes.....................so there is one honest police administrator in the entire U.S.A...and there was a TV record of exactly what happened ...




South Carolina Department of Public Safety Director Leroy Smith called the case disturbing. "After my review of the facts surrounding this matter, I have determined that Mr. Groubert’s actions rose to such an extent that his employment with us must be terminated," Smith said in a statement last week. "While Mr. Groubert was within the law to stop Mr. Jones for a safety belt violation, the force administered in this case was unwarranted, inconsistent with how our troopers are trained, and clearly in violation of Department policies."
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Sean Groubert, South Carolina State Trooper, Fired , Arrested After Shooting Unarmed Man (Original Post) Stuart G Sep 2014 OP
Absolutely frightening. Ishoutandscream2 Sep 2014 #1
I agree completely. Stuart G Sep 2014 #2
And justice comes from one of the reddest states in the country yeoman6987 Sep 2014 #3
American terrorists, the jury will acquit him. mountain grammy Sep 2014 #4
Open season. BumRushDaShow Sep 2014 #5
Without that dash cam it would be a different tale no doubt lunasun Sep 2014 #6
We need to get communities to insist on an unarmed police force. FLPanhandle Sep 2014 #7
America's love affair with gund precludes that /nt Bragi Sep 2014 #21
Body cameras on every cop. But for this video, the victim would have been "a mortal danger". Hosnon Sep 2014 #8
In these days of mass storage the ONLY reason to turn it off should be bathroom breaks. Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #15
That's the ONLY thing that got this guy. The video. calimary Sep 2014 #18
Just saw the video of this incident. Open-and-shut case of blatant police abuse. Paladin Sep 2014 #9
If the shooting victim had actually died there would be LeftinOH Sep 2014 #10
"the force administered in this case" snort Sep 2014 #11
k & r! wildbilln864 Sep 2014 #12
I am truly heaven05 Sep 2014 #13
Guilty of driving a nice truck while black.... Spitfire of ATJ Sep 2014 #14
For a "safety belt violation"? kirby Sep 2014 #16
cynical lol @ crack sprinkling Quayblue Sep 2014 #26
Depraved indifference. The Stranger Sep 2014 #17
Question about that "safety belt violation" ... CaptainTruth Sep 2014 #19
Seat belt only required on "public streets and highways" CaptainTruth Sep 2014 #20
The cop might have seen the victim driving on a public street without a belt OnlinePoker Sep 2014 #22
Unpossable!!! Sparhawk60 Sep 2014 #23
1. Sean Groubert, hopefully this will snowball into 2. Darren Willson, 3.......... Dont call me Shirley Sep 2014 #24
I'm surprised to see S.C. doing the right thing... Blue_Tires Sep 2014 #25
Finally, someone is giving us a reason not to believe ACAB Taitertots Sep 2014 #27

Stuart G

(38,439 posts)
2. I agree completely.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 10:29 AM
Sep 2014

What is more, imagine how many incidents in this country are exactly like this, and the cop gets away scot free, no charges, no investigation, no nothing. A report is filed,and the report says, .. "the guy was reaching for a gun"....nothing happens.. How many? ....Thousands in my opinion....

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
6. Without that dash cam it would be a different tale no doubt
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:25 AM
Sep 2014

Safety belt violation?????
Right up there with jay waking murders by cops!!!

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
7. We need to get communities to insist on an unarmed police force.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:28 AM
Sep 2014

Sure they can have a few specially trained officers or SWAT team with gun when it's required, but the idea that everyone with a badge needs a gun is whats to blame here.

Hosnon

(7,800 posts)
8. Body cameras on every cop. But for this video, the victim would have been "a mortal danger".
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:31 AM
Sep 2014

The cop would have claimed he justifiably feared for his life and without this video, everyone would have believed him.

A body camera should be required for all law enforcement: Gun and badge? Here's your body camera. You are not an officer of the law if it is not on (with certain limited exceptions)."

calimary

(81,421 posts)
18. That's the ONLY thing that got this guy. The video.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:29 PM
Sep 2014

Otherwise, he would have given the standard "stand your ground" defense, and because he was a cop, he would have been given the benefit of the doubt. BANK on it. It would have been his word against his victim's, and HIS word would have overruled that of his victim.

Paladin

(28,269 posts)
9. Just saw the video of this incident. Open-and-shut case of blatant police abuse.
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 11:57 AM
Sep 2014

I hope Mr. Jones gets a settlement in the high seven-figures for this outrage. And Groubert doesn't deserve another free day for the rest of his life. Jones had his empty hands held high above his head when that cop shot him---no potential threat whatsoever. Makes you want to puke.

snort

(2,334 posts)
11. "the force administered in this case"
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:08 PM
Sep 2014

Goddamit, don't you see? It's all about administering the proper amount of force on the people who hire and pay us to serve and protect them. Its not easy. Pop quiz, hotshot: Do I shoot grandma in the head or take out her poodle? Hmmm?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
13. I am truly
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:16 PM
Sep 2014

not very happy with this current KKKulture of racist pigs with guns, shooting and murdering. Modern day lynching is all this shit is. Watching that video has my blood boiling. Now let's see this fucker go to prison I hope. He will be known.

on edit: I am finally beginning to see what my parents and their parent had to face. Yeah we faced racism in my generation 50's-to 70's, then as the reactionaries were planning their next move, things quieted down somewhat. Then BAM!--Ronnie raygun was present and accounted for. It's been all downhill since then. A real dangerous slide going on now.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
14. Guilty of driving a nice truck while black....
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:17 PM
Sep 2014

Because black people are ALL on welfare so they don't have nice stuff.

kirby

(4,442 posts)
16. For a "safety belt violation"?
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:20 PM
Sep 2014

Without the camera, the cop would have sprinkled some crack on him and case closed.

CaptainTruth

(6,599 posts)
19. Question about that "safety belt violation" ...
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:29 PM
Sep 2014

In the video it looks like Jones drives from a parking lot (perhaps behind an apartment building?) around the corner into the gas station parking lot. At no time does he drive on a public street. He appears to drive from one private (?) parking lot into another adjacent private (?) parking lot.

If that is correct, does SC's seatbelt law apply to vehicles driven on private property? If it only applies to vehicles driven on public streets, then the officer's alleged reason for approaching Jones has no basis.

CaptainTruth

(6,599 posts)
20. Seat belt only required on "public streets and highways"
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:49 PM
Sep 2014

SC seat belt law:

http://www.buckleupsc.com/seat_belt_law.asp

SECTION 56-5-6520. Mandatory use of seat belt.

The driver and every occupant of a motor vehicle, when it is being operated on the public streets and highways of this State, must wear a fastened safety belt which complies with all provisions of federal law for its use. The driver is charged with the responsibility of requiring each occupant seventeen years of age or younger to wear a safety belt or be secured in a child restraint system as provided in Article 47 of this chapter. However, a driver is not responsible for an occupant seventeen years of age or younger who has a driver's license, special restricted license, or beginner's permit and who is not wearing a seat belt; such occupant is in violation of this article and must be fined in accordance with Section 56-5-6540.

--snip--

So, unless Jones was driving on a public street or highway before the start of the video, the stop was unlawful.

OnlinePoker

(5,725 posts)
22. The cop might have seen the victim driving on a public street without a belt
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 12:59 PM
Sep 2014

Since we can only see where the car is pointed, we can't see what the cop was looking at. It looks to me like Jones had just arrived at the gas station and the cop stopped, reversed, and turned back behind him so had probably seen him pull off the street without a seat belt on. Why he needed to automatically pull his gun for a minor traffic violation when Jones was already getting out of his vehicle is my question. There was no threat that could have justified doing that.

 

Sparhawk60

(359 posts)
23. Unpossable!!!
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 01:30 PM
Sep 2014

How can a cop lose his job, and even face possable jail time just for shooting an unarmed man. What is this country coming to? Next you will try and tell me cops are not above the law.


Sparhawk

 

Taitertots

(7,745 posts)
27. Finally, someone is giving us a reason not to believe ACAB
Thu Sep 25, 2014, 05:29 PM
Sep 2014

Unlike other jurisdictions that defend their officers actions no matter how egregious their behavior.

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