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Hissyspit

(45,788 posts)
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 04:24 AM Sep 2014

Oscar Pistorius Found Guilty of Culpable Homicide

Source: BBC News / CBS News

@BreakingNews: Oscar Pistorius found guilty of culpable homicide in death of Reeva Steenkamp - @BBCNews live video http://t.co/vefC09FTsj/s/_2N2

"Blade Runner" Oscar Pistorius learns his fate

CBS NEWS
Last Updated Sep 12, 2014 4:30 AM EDT

PRETORIA, South Africa -- Oscar Pistorius sat down in a Pretoria court Friday and within an hour, he learned his fate.

After a rocky day in the same room on Thursday, the double-amputee track star knew he would not be convicted of the most serious charges he had faced in the killing of his girlfriend Reeva Steenkamp; premeditated murder or murder.

Judge Thokozile Masipa resumed reading her approximately 100-page ruling Friday morning, and she didn't take long to get to the point.

She declared Pistorius guilty on the charge of culpable homicide, which could still see him hit with a lengthy prison sentence.

The ruling means Masipa deemed the runner negligent in causing Steenkamp's death. It is a charge roughly equivalent to manslaughter in the U.S. legal system.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/oscar-pistorius-blade-runner-verdict-reeva-steenkamp-day2

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Oscar Pistorius Found Guilty of Culpable Homicide (Original Post) Hissyspit Sep 2014 OP
Live on MSNBC now Rhiannon12866 Sep 2014 #1
Well, that's something. lululu Sep 2014 #2
i had heard he was found not guilty of murder barbtries Sep 2014 #3
Thank you, Mi'Lady. nt Kahuna Sep 2014 #4
Having watched this case... sendero Sep 2014 #5
A friend from SA posted this on my FB page several hours ago. raven mad Sep 2014 #6
It's not over yet customerserviceguy Sep 2014 #7
I wasn't aware that there were more charges davidpdx Sep 2014 #8
15 years is the maximum sentence muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #9
Pistorius verdict: judgment seemed to support charge of 'dolus eventualis' muriel_volestrangler Sep 2014 #10
 

lululu

(301 posts)
2. Well, that's something.
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 05:38 AM
Sep 2014

Hope he gets the full sentence. It should have been a murder conviction, though.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
3. i had heard he was found not guilty of murder
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 06:08 AM
Sep 2014

thought he got off. glad to hear he will see some justice at least. hope he gets prison, years and years of it. i still think he murdered her.

sendero

(28,552 posts)
5. Having watched this case...
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 07:06 AM
Sep 2014

..... I think this is basically fair on the one hand, maybe slightly lenient. I was worried that he might evade conviction entirely and I don't think that would have been right at all.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
6. A friend from SA posted this on my FB page several hours ago.
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 07:16 AM
Sep 2014

He didn't think the judge would do it. I did. I won a free trip to Cape Town (if and when I can afford it, which is never). He didn't think it would happen - but it did.












customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
7. It's not over yet
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 07:19 AM
Sep 2014

I'm sure there is an appeals process in South Africa that Pistorius' attorneys will fully avail themselves of.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
8. I wasn't aware that there were more charges
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 07:38 AM
Sep 2014

A 100 page ruling is pretty detailed.

I knew someone who was convicted of manslaughter (my ex-wife's brother drove drunk killing his gf) and he got 15 years in South Carolina. We'll see if Pistorius gets more than that. From what little I know about it, I'd guess his sentence is going to be about 20 years.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
9. 15 years is the maximum sentence
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 09:03 AM
Sep 2014
Pistorius now faces up to 15 years in prison after the culpable homicide conviction, although there is no minimum sentence and previous cases have been punished with community service and fines.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/africa/what-is-culpable-homicide-and-what-is-the-maximum-sentence-oscar-pistorius-could-face-9728168.html

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
10. Pistorius verdict: judgment seemed to support charge of 'dolus eventualis'
Fri Sep 12, 2014, 11:57 AM
Sep 2014
South African lawyers argue if athlete could have foreseen someone could die, he should be guilty of common-law murder

...
The South African legal system allows for different kinds of murder convictions, and the one that's relevant here is what is known as common-law murder with indirect intentions – or "dolus eventualis".

According to the law, someone is guilty of murder if they know that their actions could lead to the killing of a person and reconcile themselves to that fact, and act anyway.

In delivering her ruling, judge Thokozile Masipa said that "a reasonable person would have foreseen if he fired shots at the door, the person inside the toilet might be struck and might die as a result", which suggests a classic case of dolus eventualis.

But the judge seems to have cleared him of this charge because she felt that, to be guilty of common-law murder, Pistorius needed to have foreseen that his actions would kill a specific person – Reeva Steenkamp.
...

Ulrich Roux is a South African barrister specialising in criminal law and director of the law firm BDK attorneys

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/sep/12/pistorius-verdict-questioned-as-state-prepares-appeal?cmp=wp-plugin
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