Ravens terminate Ray Rice's deal

[rdking647]

Source: espn

The Baltimore Ravens terminated running back Ray Rice's contract on Monday, hours after TMZ Sports released a video showing him punching his then-fiancée in the face in an Atlantic City hotel elevator in February

Read more: http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11489134/baltimore-ravens-cut-ray-rice-new-video-surfaces

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after watching teh video,rice should be in jail for assault

[Lucky Luciano]

1. Abso-fucking-lutely should be in jail for assault.

His wife should divorce him and run away like he were infected with Ebola.

Glad the video came out - it gave the nfl a chance to fix their fuck up with the proper discipline on their end...now it is law enforcement's turn to do right.

[big_dog]

2. TERMINATED ON TWITTER!

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The #Ravens have terminated RB Ray Rice's contract this afternoon.
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[heaven05]

13. that's just plain vicious

he needs more than counseling. Whether she pressed charges or not he was wrong AND deserves some consequence laid on his ass. PERIOD!!!! on edit: He's banned from the NFL, lost his money/contract(s) and now will have to face life like the rest of us I guess. That's consequence for ones actions. He needs serious psychological help.

[840high]

45. NFL suspended him indefinitely

[warrant46]

65. Counselling isn't going to help this Criminal

He needs confinement to protect the rest of us

[heaven05]

70. yeah sure, if you say so

but that judge in florida is the same to me. He beat his wife bloody, drug around by her hair. His wife charged him with assault. He got counseling and won't serve a day behind bars. This "criminal" needs confinement to protect what part of the rest of us? I have to look at disparities like this. No, he needs a lot of psychological help.

[warrant46]

71. The Judge belongs behind the Striped sunshine too

But alas like Marc Rich money talks--well it certainly did when cliton pardoned his sorry ass.



Marc Rich

He received a controversial presidential pardon from U.S. President Bill Clinton on January 20, 2001, Clinton's last day in office

He was best known for founding the commodities company Glencore and for being indicted in the United States on federal charges of tax evasion and illegally making oil deals with Iran during the Iran hostage crisis. He was in Switzerland at the time of the indictment and never returned to the United States

[NewJeffCT]

4. didn't she marry him

after this happened and also refused to press charges? It could be she's been abused (mentally and/or physically) before and afraid to confront him?

Can they go back and press charges after not doing so the first time?

[underpants]

27. It's an abusive relationship

She is abused. Not thinking straight.

[NewJeffCT]

31. That's what I figured

but, it could make it difficult to press charges?

[DocMac]

33. The state will pick up the charges.

They assume (and rightly so) that the victim is coerced into not filing charges. Really, the video says it all and if Ray went to jail, that's a good thing.

[Ruby the Liberal]

42. I am a woman, and I know women

who would seek out an abusive relationship if there was a huge payout possibility.

I wish I didn't, and I will never understand that mindset. There isn't enough money in the world.

[elehhhhna]

76. WHen you marry for money, you work for it

truefact


but they were childhood sweethearts (codependent) and IIRC have a toddler together - so this has probably been going on with them for years...

[calimary]

73. Seems she already is being subjected to "blame the victim" shit.

I worry about her. Her husband (SHEESH!!! WTF???? WHY????????????????) has so far not attempted to get any help for his out-of-control temper and violent reactive behavior. What's gonna happen when they're home and he starts thinking about all the goodies he's lost - because of HER? What's going to happen to her then? How badly is he gonna take it out on HER because if it weren't for HER and people seeing him beat on HER, none of this bummer shit woulda happened to HIM.

Blame the victim. Watch for it. Especially if she's already PSYCHOLOGICALLY so beaten down that she does a Patty Hearst and side with her domineering batterer? A domineering batterer who obviously has NEVER been taught that you don't hit a woman and you don't beat up on somebody because you're mad at them and you DON'T use your fists and you DON'T "settle things" physically? I blame the NFL and the whole NFL consciousness that officially sanctions violent behavior. Violent behavior is what gets the touchdowns, blocks the offense, knocks down the enemy players, renders the opponents physically incapable of preventing your forward motion. All through physical blunt force, brute force, physical combat. It's not just condoned, it's fucking WORSHIPPED! IDOLIZED!!! RICHLY REWARDED!!!! MAN!!! Talk about your positive reinforcement - of all these negative things. You get your face on TV. You get a king's ransom salary and perks, perks, perks. Free everything. Clothing, shoes, cars, publicity - all of it extremely positive and fawning, too. You get treated like a god.

It's the whole NFL culture that needs desperately to be reviewed, fixed, and possibly even done away with. Yes. There. I said it. And I fully expect the NFL to drag its heels, go the barest of baby steps in "addressing" this issue, and do everything it can NOT to deal with this as fully, systemically, and dramatically as is needed. The whole sordid money-grubbing misogynistic operation needs an overhaul. And America needs to examine its conscience, too, as to why so many of us "love" and support and exalt this shit. Frankly, I am not optimistic about THAT approach ever happening. And I know, I know, I know, people will flame away at me and say versions of "meh, it's human nature, we've been that way since the Romans, blah-blah-blah..." Well, I DON'T ACCEPT THAT. And I'm NOT gonna condone it or shrug it off or figure out some way to be okay with it. It's NOT okay. It's NEVER GONNA BE okay. And it needs to change. We're millennia beyond the Troglodyte era, aren't we? Or are we? Is this the 21st Century or isn't it? It needs to change. We NEED to evolve. Otherwise domestic violence will continue unabated, and centuries from now it'll still be a huge issue, but just simply called something else, for the surface-only cosmetics of it.

[OnlinePoker]

5. She married him a month after this happened.

Hopefully she wises up because being released won't do anything for Rice's temper. He's hit once, it's highly likely he'll hit again.

[catbyte]

63. Perhaps she'll rethink it now that he's not worth $44M. She might have stayed for the baby's

financial security, but that's gone now. She should do the same.

[warrant46]

66. Here's her complete denial of the truth

Janay Rice, the wife of former Baltimore Ravens running back Ray Rice, posted a statement on Instagram.

Here's the full statement (her Instagram profile is private, but the Baltimore Sun has confirmed that the statement was intended to be made public):

"I woke up this morning feeling like I had a horrible nightmare, feeling like I'm mourning the death of my closest friend. But to have to accept the fact that it's reality is a nightmare in itself. No one knows the pain that the media & unwanted options from the public has caused my family. To make us relive a moment in our lives that we regret every day is a horrible thing. To take something away from the man I love that he has worked his ass of for all his life just to gain ratings is horrific. THIS IS OUR LIFE! What don't you all get. If your intentions were to hurt us, embarrass us, make us feel alone, take all happiness away, you've succeeded on so many levels. Just know we will continue to grow & show the world what real love is! Ravensnation we love you!"

She NEEDS the counseling---the Criminal she married needs the Incarceration

[catbyte]

67. Oh, brother. I'm sure that's not the first time she's been assaulted, either.

I get so very frustrated when abused women stay with and make excuses for their abusers, but what can you do? It's up to them to get the courage and self respect to leave. So very often children are involved and the whole hideous cycle repeats itself generation after generation. My late, beloved dad was a cop for 30 years, and two of the first lessons he taught me were "don't be afraid to hurt someone who's trying to hurt you" and "don't let ANY man hit you or make you feel bad about yourself." I think men sense weakness in some women because I NEVER had a man I was involved with even think about laying a hand on me. I did almost get into a physical altercation with the partner of my best friend, who was assaulting her in front of their 18 month old daughter--my goddaughter. My friend & her daughter were living with me at the time, so I ran in to bust up the attack. He was a good foot taller than me & started advancing on me with his fists balled up. I just stared at him and said, softly, "Just try it, asshole." He got this surprised look on his face & backed off immediately. I ordered him out of the house & to NEVER come back. As with all domestic abusers, he was a true coward & stayed away. I should've called the cops, but this was in 1980 & times were different. I hope she gets the help she needs.

[warrant46]

68. The Disease of Co-Dependance is sometimes dismissed

When it is easy to blame the "Victim" for going back.

She needs prayers and understanding.

The Thug needs prison to keep him away from civilized human beings

[jeff47]

20. Someone's got to file a complaint against him

and the then-girlfriend hasn't filed charges. No complaint, no arrest.

And since she married him, it seems unlikely she would file charges now.

[Lucky Luciano]

22. Yes...depends on the state

For murder the state will always press of course. For other types of violence, each state seems to handle things differently.

[rdking647]

38. he was charged with felony assault

as a first time offender he was accepted into a pre trial intervention program that let him avoid jail time.

so as far as criminal charges are concerned theres nothing more that could be done due to double jeopardy

[DocMac]

51. I didn't know he negotiated a plea. Thanks

So, that is that.

[tammywammy]

41. Also, isn't it that you can force spouses to testify against each other?

By marrying him he's protected even more.

[LibGranny]

58. The video has been OUT for a while - the NFL (and the Ravens) were too busy covering their

arses to do right by this woman!

[tabasco]

59. I'm just wondering how the a-holes thought she got knocked out in the first video

Why did they need to see the second video when they knew damn well he punched her out?

[AMAR0113]

61. They needed to see the video because he lied.

He told them that she fell and hit the guard rail in the elevator. Which is why they only suspended him for two games at first.

[tabasco]

74. No, they didn't believe him

They pretended to believe him.

[ann---]

3. I agree

Even if she didn't press charges, shouldn't he be arrested for knocking her out cold and dragging her? What a disturbing video to watch. I'm wondering what all those people were saying when she was just lying there not moving or when she was dazed and someone came up to her to comfort her.

Why didn't someone call the cops then? These jocks get away with murder - literally (think OJ).

[7962]

9. Really. Isn't this evidence of a crime?? Is there a time limit to file a charge? nt

[ann---]

26. Yes, if I were on a jury

it would be evidence that a crime was committed. I think there is never a statute of limitations ONLY on the crime murder.

[nomorenomore08]

62. He was put into a pre-trial diversion program. Not quite the same as a guilty plea, but close enough

The fact that he won't serve jail time seems almost unjust, considering all the guys sitting in prison for less.

[jeff47]

21. If she doesn't press charges, no one will.

If she's not interested in filing charges for whatever reason, they're not going to arrest and prosecute.

Think about what would happen at the trial if she didn't want him prosecuted:
Prosecutor: "This video shows you getting punched and falling unconscious".
Wife: "Nope. I was pretending".

[7962]

28. In my state (Ga), if there's evidence of abuse charges are filed regardless of the spouse's opinion.

And that video is some darn good evidence

[jeff47]

30. And when his defense puts her up at trial to say it was all fake

that evidence is not nearly so good.

[7962]

55. Her opinion wont carry much water after the video is played.

Not to mention if it was fake, she wouldve said that when the 1st video came out of her being dragged out of the elevator

[jeff47]

56. Sure it will

Do you think they actually hit each other in "Fight Club"? Pretty easy to invoke that to demonstrate a fake video can be made.

Not to mention if it was fake, she wouldve said that when the 1st video came out of her being dragged out of the elevator

"We wanted to see how many people we could trick into thinking it was real".

Again, he should be facing legal consequences, but that's not going to happen without her cooperation. And it does not appear she is interested in cooperating.

[7962]

57. I dont think she'd be that stupid.

So that would be her answer? They wanted to see how many people they could fool even though it cost them tens of thousands of lost income? Come on. Now if their state is like mine, it doesnt matter if she cooperates, he could be charged.

[jeff47]

64. It's not about stupid. It's about abuse.

And given the video and how "normal" Rice treated the situation, it's pretty clear she's suffered a lot of abuse.

As a result, he's in control of her. Until she decides to stop him, or he kills her.

Now if their state is like mine, it doesnt matter if she cooperates, he could be charged.

And as I repeatedly said, charging is only step 1. You have to actually convict at trial. And she can get in the way of that.

Since he's controlling her to the point where she's apologizing for getting knocked out on video, she'll say anything to protect him.

Also he was charged. Doesn't appear to be in prison, does he?

[7962]

75. Turns out he plead out and got diversion. So much for the "we were faking it" defense.

But he wont be charged again because of this new tape; the case has already been settled.

But, as I stated earlier, if this case hadnt been closed, he could have been charged without the cooperation of his wife. (depending on that states law) Its done here ALL the time. The wife doesnt even get much of a say in court. I've seen it done many times with the wife protesting the whole way. These days, most juries believe the wife is under duress and listen to the evidence instead.

[rocktivity]

37. In some states, an arrest MUST be made if the police see signs of physical violence

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(Gets off shiftless lazy ass and does her own research) and New Jersey is one of them.

I've seen more than one episode of Cops where they've had to explain this to victims who didn't want their partners taken away (despite the fact they had called the police for help).


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[Capt. Obvious]

6. I was just coming to post this

after completing my waiver claim for Justin Forsett

[DocMac]

35. LOL...what about Pierce? nt

[Capt. Obvious]

43. Lousy bum cost me my week 1 matchup

Can't believe I started him over Cordarrelle at flex.

I actually just canceled the claim. My neighbor talked me out of it. He's right - no idea who will be the bell cow for the Ravens going forward.

I'm number 3 in the waiver line for week 1. Stay patient and I'll be number 1 soon... and then I'll have to be patient again to make the #1 claim count.

[DocMac]

47. Fast for two days and hit the waiver wire!

You'll do just fine...lol!

I'm winning both of my fantasy teams...

[Capt. Obvious]

48. I'm blowing out one

getting blown out by the Pierce one

[DocMac]

49. Really, you should get Pierce if available.

Forsett is gonna get you a doughnut...and that hurts.

Go get that Wheaton from the Steelers...that guy is awesome. Put him in at flex.

[Capt. Obvious]

50. I have Pierce. He got me -0.6 in the league I'm losing

[DocMac]

53. Keep him!

I know it hurts, but Cincy has a good defence, hang in there, Capt.

If you cut him in my leagues, I'd snatch him up.

[rdking647]

7. the nfl announced that they have now banned him indefinitly

proving once again that roger goodell is a joke

[Calista241]

11. I kind of like Goodell

And Rice deserved being suspended and being fired.

[alp227]

8. K&R + Baltimore Sun article

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-new-video-released-of-ray-rice-incident-20140908,0,1244291.story

[7962]

10. Maybe THIS will make an impact on players. This costs him a LOT of money.

[christx30]

12. More states need to be like Texas.

If the abused spouse drops charges, the state will pick them up again. The abuser still has to worry about what the state will do. Sometimes people are scared and need help getting out of a bad situation.

[lebkuchen]

14. THAT should be a federal law

Gees, there aren't many women who would want to press charges against a man who had beaten them unconscious.

I'm actually surprised this law is in TX.

[NewJeffCT]

15. That's what I'm afraid could happen here

She married him after this incident - she could be in fear of him due to other mental/physical abuse. I mean, didn't *she* issue some sort of apology afterwards and refused to press charges? I'm thinking WTF - she got knocked out & dragged and she has to apologize?

[Ilsa]

24. Exactly right. Leaving an abuser is one of the most dangerous

things a victim can do. The state needs to intervene on domestic abuse because too often, the victim can't make it happen without extreme consequences.

[rdking647]

16. i like what keith olbermann says on twitter

Roger Goodell's position as Commissioner of the NFL is no longer tenable. Whether he saw the #RayRice video or he did not, he failed.

[PuppyBismark]

17. How could the NFL or the Ravens not seen the inside the elevator Video?

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Both said they had not seen it, but clearly everyone knew it existed. They could have gotten it if they really wanted it. Apparently law enforcement had it, but did not provide it to the NFL. The NFL and the team could have gotten Ray Rice's permission to get a copy of it, but both of them did not want to press too hard to see it.

Nonsense!! Talk about putting your head in the sand!!

[NewJeffCT]

19. Even if they didn't

they probably had a damn good idea of what happened...

[7962]

29. SOMEBODY knew it existed, or TMZ wouldnt have it.

[xocet]

18. Hopefully, his wife has protection from him today, and she leaves him as soon as possible. n/t

[LuckyLib]

23. Yes. You think he was an angry bully before? Now that his career is over, he should

be a real pleasure to live with.

[smirkymonkey]

54. I am worried that she will now be in more danger than she ever was.

He will probably take this out on her.

[Ilsa]

25. Leaving an abuser is very dangerous.

Quite often, the girlfriend cannot leave for fear for her life.

There's a very ugly psychology to domestic abuse. And frequently, the victim thinks she can change him or at least make him happy enough to behave. The abuser makes the victim think that she has the power to stop his violence.

[DrBulldog]

32. If a poor man did that to his financee ...

... he'd already be serving his 5-year assault felony sentence by now.

[SCVDem]

34. Next stop, MMA

Or WWE.

It should be jail.

[Enthusiast]

36. Oh, no! Knocking out your girlfriend is considered worse than smoking dope!

Just imagine.

[rocktivity]

39. "Closing the barn door after the horse has gone out"

is how my mom would have put it.

I don't see this as any kind of moral victory for the NFL. If anything, it buttresses the fact that they didn't do the right thing when the first video came out -- they should have made knocking out your girlfriend at least as bad as smoking dope back then. And the ONLY reason why they're doing it now is that the second video is out for all the world to see.


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[Enthusiast]

40. Yup.

The NFL messed way up.

[Arkana]

44. Too little too goddamn late.

This should have happened after it was first fucking discovered. Instead the Ravens organization covered Rice's ass.

[840high]

46. Yes they did. The public outrage got

them finally moving on this.

[Hoppy]

52. Foball builds characrter.

[rollin74]

60. it's good that the Ravens are finally doing the right thing

too bad prosecutors in Atlantic City aren't taking this case of violent assault seriously

Ray Rice should be facing time behind bars

[rocktivity]

69. Since you've touched on the subject, exactly what is his legal status?

The Guardian: ...Rice agreed not to contest a charge of aggravated assault...(and) was sentenced to a pretrial diversionary program, approved by a New Jersey prosecutor and superior court judge...his case did not come to court.

The first video and his and his court pleading alone should have been enough for the league to give him the rest of the season off.


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[warrant46]

72. He'll be back

His talent is necessary to keep the sheep mesmerized in watching him break tackles