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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 04:01 PM Aug 2014

Texas Judge Warns Rick Perry Not To Threaten Grand Jury

Source: TPM

By SAHIL KAPUR Published AUGUST 22, 2014, 3:46 PM EDT

A Democratic state judge in Texas is suggesting that Republican Gov. Rick Perry's strong denunciations of his indictment could be seen as a threat to the grand jurors, according to the Austin American-Statesman.

Julie Kocurek, an elected judge, said "no one is above the law."

"I have a duty to make sure that our members of the grand jury are protected," she's quoted as saying. "I am defending the integrity of our grand jury system."

Kocurek was reportedly referring to this statement from Perry after he was indicted on two felony counts: "I am confident we will ultimately prevail, that this farce of a prosecution will be revealed for what it is, and that those responsible will be held to account."

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Texas Judge Warns Rick Perry Not To Threaten Grand Jury (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2014 OP
Good for Judge Kocurek. CaliforniaPeggy Aug 2014 #1
I agree completely with CaliforniaPeggy....Perry is not above the law, even if he thinks so..nt Stuart G Aug 2014 #3
And it does sound like a threat he's making. Subtle, but very much there. calimary Aug 2014 #5
definitely sounds like one to me, too wordpix Aug 2014 #43
At the very least I would take it as gopiscrap Aug 2014 #48
What is it about Texas governors that they think they're above the law? Jack Rabbit Aug 2014 #17
JR Ewing envy Skink Aug 2014 #31
Because they're not punished when they break it. Fantastic Anarchist Aug 2014 #37
Unless they have "sincerely held" religious beliefs, that is. Crash2Parties Aug 2014 #25
Does a sincerely held belief in his own divinity count? Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #26
Somehow I have the vibe that Perry will say, "I AM the law!" sakabatou Aug 2014 #2
More like he's Moses coming down the mountain with laws to enforce Gawd'sWill©. freshwest Aug 2014 #19
Is Kocurek elected for life? Auggie Aug 2014 #4
Wouldn't surprise me in the least. calimary Aug 2014 #6
...well, except Bush—but nobody else! C Moon Aug 2014 #7
The fact that he even has to be warned says so much about him. nt Mnemosyne Aug 2014 #8
Anybody would mouth off in his situation Chemisse Aug 2014 #9
This guy threaten people? Inconceivable. tanyev Aug 2014 #10
Predict that his technique will work. He's got plenty of batshit fans who've targeted others before. freshwest Aug 2014 #13
True. His technique of labeling it Democratic bias even worked on many Dems. nt Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2014 #46
Maybe the Dems that agree with him are guilty of the same crime mdbl Aug 2014 #47
Now that's he's under felony indictment, Poor Lil Ricky can't carry a gun. Zen Democrat Aug 2014 #14
Yes, he can, IronGate Aug 2014 #36
I think his Concealed Carry leftieNanner Aug 2014 #38
Looks to me like this POS little man... SoapBox Aug 2014 #23
Manning that 50 Cal. PeoViejo Aug 2014 #11
He doesnt seem to learn very well. ErikJ Aug 2014 #12
Paybacks and threats is how he's governed the State of Texas since 2001. Zen Democrat Aug 2014 #15
Threats is one of his deepest experiences. A big bully, now he needs to man up Thinkingabout Aug 2014 #16
"No one is above the law." Good one, Judge. Who would expect comedy from the bench? tclambert Aug 2014 #18
Governor Good Hair.... czarjak Aug 2014 #20
Toss his totally worthless ass in jail. SoapBox Aug 2014 #21
Sounds like a reason to throw him in jail to me. You know, for everyone's safety. n/t A Simple Game Aug 2014 #22
Maybe I am wrong. But, I fear that this country is headed for the oblivion. olegramps Aug 2014 #24
Now watch this judge get threatened.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2014 #27
I understand the Grand Jury will be invited on a quail hunt with Dick Cheney. Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #28
Perry: "La loi, c'est moi" DFW Aug 2014 #29
If I were on the Grand Jury, I'd read "those responsible will be held to account" as a threat. SunSeeker Aug 2014 #30
and who else? mopinko Aug 2014 #42
A Thug is s Thug is a Thug! nt Cryptoad Aug 2014 #32
hmmmm unionthug777 Aug 2014 #44
The world is finally seeing the cause and effect of Replug policy and influence. wolfie001 Aug 2014 #33
Rick Perry is threatening jurors? louis-t Aug 2014 #34
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2014 #35
Maybe that will wipe the smirk off his gloating, self-righteous, smug, sneering mug of a face. n/t libdem4life Aug 2014 #39
This does sound rather like a threat, doesn't it? tblue37 Aug 2014 #40
Yup. Total veiled threat, and not just to the grand jury. Anyone responsible at any point is... EEO Aug 2014 #41
I long for the day Christie and Perry begin their sentences mountain grammy Aug 2014 #45

calimary

(81,322 posts)
5. And it does sound like a threat he's making. Subtle, but very much there.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 04:29 PM
Aug 2014

If I were on that grand jury, it would leave me feeling most disquieted hearing that from my governor - who's already on record (his followers too - and he's done nothing to discourage that) to demean and attempt to diminish and otherwise cast aspersions on the grand jury.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
43. definitely sounds like one to me, too
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 03:16 PM
Aug 2014

Perry---a governor above the law. Hope that doesn't materialize

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
17. What is it about Texas governors that they think they're above the law?
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:05 PM
Aug 2014

Perry' predecessor also thought he was above the law.

Crash2Parties

(6,017 posts)
25. Unless they have "sincerely held" religious beliefs, that is.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:53 PM
Aug 2014

Then magically the law no longer applies.

Thanks, SCOTUS.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
19. More like he's Moses coming down the mountain with laws to enforce Gawd'sWill©.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:17 PM
Aug 2014

He's the perfect 'The Devil... er, Gawd... made me do it' character. That's his Teflon for not treating others like human beings.

In the long run, I doubt he believes a word of the mushroom fertilizer he's shoveling. It's for those of a fanatical mindset to keep their support.

It's all about getting wealthy from land and resources to me. He's just another overpaid corporate dissembler like the media script readers.


C Moon

(12,213 posts)
7. ...well, except Bush—but nobody else!
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 04:37 PM
Aug 2014

well, there IS Cheney, too—but that's it!
and Rumsfeld...and Rice...

Chemisse

(30,813 posts)
9. Anybody would mouth off in his situation
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 04:47 PM
Aug 2014

but "those responsible will be held to account" is a distinct threat.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
13. Predict that his technique will work. He's got plenty of batshit fans who've targeted others before.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 04:58 PM
Aug 2014

It's a phenomenon across the country, intimidation by releasing the names of the private citizens, their addresses, employment, spouses, children and grand children who are threatened.

There is more going on than most expect coming from brownshirt rightists. It's dangerous to uphold the law or do anything that gets in the way of demagogues like Perry.

We knw what a GOP Senate will do and what a GOP victory in 2016 will mean for us all. It's not like they've been hiding their intentions.

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
36. Yes, he can,
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 02:47 PM
Aug 2014

he just can't purchase one.
He hasn't been convicted of anything yet, so his 2A right is still intact.

leftieNanner

(15,124 posts)
38. I think his Concealed Carry
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 05:31 PM
Aug 2014

License has been revoked. He can still own the guns, but he can't be packin' in his pocket. I haz a sad for the poor man

 

PeoViejo

(2,178 posts)
11. Manning that 50 Cal.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 04:54 PM
Aug 2014

The Crew made sure it wasn't loaded. Aw, gee, he put his hand on the ammo box of that 30 Cal. How Manly...

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
16. Threats is one of his deepest experiences. A big bully, now he needs to man up
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:04 PM
Aug 2014

And face the music. I am waiting to see how long he goes before saying the Republican special prosecutor did the investigation. I am thinking the GOP is throwing him under the bus.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
18. "No one is above the law." Good one, Judge. Who would expect comedy from the bench?
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:16 PM
Aug 2014

Especially saying that in Texas, home of George W. (for Warcriminal) Bush.

czarjak

(11,278 posts)
20. Governor Good Hair....
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:25 PM
Aug 2014

He had a certain Board of Regent member at Texas Tech University blackballed for endorsing Kay Bailey Hutchinson during the last election. How's that for some non partisan political integrity?

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
24. Maybe I am wrong. But, I fear that this country is headed for the oblivion.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 05:48 PM
Aug 2014

How can a person not be concerned when a major faction of the citizens are intent on the destruction of the Federal Government and every progressive program that created the Middle Class. This not just some unsubstantiated charge. The Right Wing extremists have succeeded in bringing the government to a position in which the elected representatives are unable to pass any viable bills effectively bringing about Norquist's dream of drowning it in a bathtub.

There is no end in sight to their destruction of the democratic process of compromise. It is their way or no way. When the facts are considered, the anarchists of nihilism are closing in on a complete victory. Welcome to the new America. It will be a oligarchical theocratic victory that would have made Machiavellian proud. The Borgias knew how to win. Invite the opposition to a superlative dinner and poison them.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
27. Now watch this judge get threatened....
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 06:02 PM
Aug 2014

One thing you can say fer sure it's them Rick Perry Supporters are armed and stupid.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
30. If I were on the Grand Jury, I'd read "those responsible will be held to account" as a threat.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 06:30 PM
Aug 2014

What else is he referring to but some sort of retribution? And for what? Following the law and doing their jobs as jurors?

wolfie001

(2,252 posts)
33. The world is finally seeing the cause and effect of Replug policy and influence.
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 11:35 AM
Aug 2014

Governor Siegelman should've been pardoned (freed) a long time ago. Our President going down there to have a pow-wow with that lunatic was spineless at best and Perry-hole only used it for his own purposes. These are some of the reasons many Dems have failed to vote. Cynical hopelessness.........

louis-t

(23,295 posts)
34. Rick Perry is threatening jurors?
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 02:07 PM
Aug 2014

No one told me Rick Perry is threatening jurors. I don't understand why Rick Perry is threatening jurors. Rick Perry shouldn't be threatening jurors. Really, Rick Perry is threatening jurors? Rick Perry could go to prison for threatening jurors. (hashtag)Rick Perry is threatening jurors.

tblue37

(65,408 posts)
40. This does sound rather like a threat, doesn't it?
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 12:09 AM
Aug 2014

"I am confident we will ultimately prevail . . . and that those responsible will be held to account."

EEO

(1,620 posts)
41. Yup. Total veiled threat, and not just to the grand jury. Anyone responsible at any point is...
Sun Aug 24, 2014, 11:07 AM
Aug 2014

a target.

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