ISIS Spokesman Who Promised To ‘Raise The Flag Of Allah Over The White House’ Killed In Syria

[Galraedia]

Last edited Fri Aug 22, 2014, 12:35 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Inquisitr

ISIS spokesman Abu Mosa once promised to “humiliate” the United States on the battlefield and “raise the flag of Allah in the White House,” but he will never get the chance to see his vision put into action.

The spokesman for Islamic State, once known as both ISIS and ISIL, has been killed by the Syrian Army.

Abu Mosa gained fame when he was featured in a Vice News documentary, in which he delivered a big threat to the United States.

“I say to America the Islamic Caliphate has been established and we will not stop.”

Read more: http://www.inquisitr.com/1425478/isis-spokesman-who-promised-to-raise-the-flag-of-allah-over-the-white-house-killed-in-syria/

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Abu Mosa, the press officer of ISIL (ISIS), has been killed in an attack on a Syrian airbase. ISIL is currently fighting against Syrian government forces, in addition to its campaign in Iraq, that has been met by United States airstrikes. He was killed by members of the Syrian army who are loyal to the President of Syria, Bashar al-Assad.

The U.S. Department of State confirmed Mosa's death in a tweet:

An #ISIS leader and press officer both killed in Tabqa Airbase attack in #Syria #thinkagainturnaway pic.twitter.com/hEyv6CJ2Fn
— Think AgainTurn Away (@ThinkAgain_DOS) August 21, 2014

Source: http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/08/isil-press-officer-abu-mosa-killed-by-syrian-army/378994/

[JI7]

1. the guy was an idiot as are so many of these guys, they seem to be mostly young

also .

[SoapBox]

2. How delightful!

Too bad you were so brainwashed, uneducated and impoverished...one can actually live a life that is honest, compassionate and loving.

[cheapdate]

3. I wouldn't normally post something like this, but...

(on edit : my point isn't to make light of killing people or to glorify the military. Maybe my point is a comment on the incomprehensibly technical nature of the US war machine.)

[rollin74]

13. I like it!

[Voice for Peace]

4. oops

this bodes well for humanity.

[d_r]

5. This is the guy

with the ray bans in the vice video.

The whole damn thing is sad.

[Historic NY]

6. ...

[AngryDem001]

7. One less to worry about!

In the words of Garrus Vakarian.

[lunatica]

42. Those who killed him created two more terrorist with that act

It will never end.

[PersonNumber503602]

46. Are you suggesting that Syria/Iraq/Kurds should not be engaging ISIS?

Should ISIS simply be left alone by those nations? To an extent I can understand an isolationist stance when it comes to countries thousands of miles away, but it seems silly to suggest that the countries under direct threat are somehow wrong for killing militants who are actively engaging them in combat.

How do you propose these countries deal with ISIS?

[lunatica]

53. Did I say anything about wrong or right here?

I just stated what is a fact. No emotion or opinion involved. Maybe you should read my comment again if you care to back off from looking ridiculous. But if not that's perfectly OK too. To each their own.

[EX500rider]

64. Did we create 2 new enemies with every dead Japanese/German in WWII?

Or does that only apply to the Middle East somehow?

[lunatica]

72. Apples and oranges.

I won't even bother to explain. You're entitled to whatever point you think you're making.

[EX500rider]

73. I am not making a point, I am questioning your point.

What's the difference between dead Europeans and dead Asians and dead Arabs exactly?

[Kaleva]

8. Some good news for the day.

[Ishoutandscream2]

9. Wonderful news! Thanks.

K and R.

[Botany]

10. Next up for no longer breathing crowd is this punk in the black

Although I call myself a liberal I hope the U.S. and others kill these ISIS bastards by the truck load.

[wildbilln864]

15. exactly! n/t

[RexDart]

29. Should we remind them of what happened to OBL?

Because that would always be in the back of my mind, as I check under the bed.

[leftynyc]

32. It's BECAUSE I'm a liberal

that I want these cretins put in their graves. There is no room on this planet for people like them. They cannot be reasoned with.

[Tarheel_Dem]

34. +1

[jamzrockz]

37. Too bad

Assad no longer has his chemical weapons. These animals needs to be doused in it like the cockroaches they are.

[Hissyspit]

70. You do realize that Assad is a cockroach?

And that he murdered civilians with his gas, 1,400 in one attack alone?

[Brigid]

52. Yep, he needs to be next.

[rollin74]

11. Good! Excellent news

good riddance

hope the hits keep on coming

[SunSeeker]

12. Good riddance. nt

[SCVDem]

14. Instant Karma gonna get you!

Close enough.

[jberryhill]

16. He can push up daisies

[blackspade]

17. A fool who got himself killed.

And likely innocent civilians living near him as well.

[FrodosPet]

18. I think he must have been mistranslated

This is just a reaction to the policies of Bush. There IS no desire for a global caliphate, just a regional one.

In any case, like the lady said about the Central American refugees: "Not our kids, not our problem"

[Spitfire of ATJ]

19. Contrary to the propaganda there really are NOT a lot of these guys and some aren't that committed..

I liken them to a biker gang that roars into town, takes over for a while, picks up a few newbies who think it would be cool to roar into town and take over for a while.

Many like that will scatter when they see their new buddies getting swatted like flies.

[Snow Leopard]

21. Do tell

They have fairly large swaths of territory, taken cities even. What do you base your assertion on?

[Spitfire of ATJ]

23. They're not being greeted as liberators.

[Snow Leopard]

24. And this translates to their not being

Many of them, how? That they are not committed? I'm not buying that reasoning.

I'd hate to see if they were actually committed to it.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

25. Ask McCain. He got them started.

[Snow Leopard]

44. I think mccains opinion is directly opposite of yours

So I don't really understand why asking him makes any sense.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

45. Aw shucks, golly. You must have missed the picture of McCain paling around with these guys.

[EX500rider]

65. How'd McCain start the Syrian civil war? n/t

[Spitfire of ATJ]

66. LOL!!!

No. He got Isis started.

[EX500rider]

67. Sounds nice but no he didn't.

The group, in its original form, was composed of and supported by a variety of Sunni Arab terrorist insurgent groups, including its predecessor organizations, Al-Qaeda in Iraq (AQI) (2003–2006), Mujahideen Shura Council (2006–2006) and the Islamic State of Iraq (ISI) (2006–2013), other insurgent groups such as Jeish al-Taiifa al-Mansoura, Jaysh al-Fatiheen, Jund al-Sahaba and Katbiyan Ansar Al-Tawhid wal Sunnah, and a number of Iraqi tribes that profess Sunni Islam.

Jama'at al-Tawhid wal-Jihad (abrreviated JTJ or shortened to Tawhid and Jihad, Tawhid wal-Jihad, sometimes Tawhid al-Jihad, Al Tawhid or Tawhid) was started in about 2000 by Abu Musab al-Zarqawi and a combination of foreigners and local Islamist sympathizers. Al-Zarqawi was a Jordanian Salafi who had traveled to Afghanistan to fight in the Soviet-Afghan War, but he arrived after the departure of the Soviet troops and soon returned to his homeland. He eventually returned to Afghanistan, running an Islamic militant training camp near Herat.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_of_Iraq_and_the_Levant#History

[Spitfire of ATJ]

69. Nobody heard of them until McCain went over there. Isis posted the picture.

[Amonester]

28. The have fairly large swaths of territory: No.

They have taken cities, but each time they take a new one, they have to leave some "troops" behind so they end up stretched up.

The territory they "have" is mostly desertic. They can't do much of anything useful with it, and they rule by fear: Won't last long...

[lunatica]

43. I don't disagree with you but remember the entire area

is called the Cradle of Civilizations and has been the longest ongoing human society in history, albeit different peoples, there has been no gap in their history since long before any other mighty civilization.

And it isn't the the desert that made that happen. It was the fertile Crescent Valley and now there are immense deposits of oil and modern engineering to control the limited water (dams). The desert has made them a hardy people and tough as hell.

I think it's best to have some healthy respect for them. They've been dismissed many times to their enemies' peril.

[Amonester]

54. I understand, but I was not talking about the people's history there, nor...

about the resources these people have.

Remember that ISIS&L "jihadists" are mostly comprised of foreign nationals (including perhaps 2,000 of them from the U.K. alone). I was talking about them. And they won't manufacture tanks, missiles, bullets et al from that fertile Crescent Valley for waging their never-ending jihad for a Caliphate that nobody else but themselves recognize...

Even the world's most populous Muslim country, Indonesia, LOATHE them...

[lunatica]

55. Good point

They aren't a country and therefore no one will recognize them, or if someone does it'll be countries who want to kiss their ass for their newly conquered oil. I may have overlooked some countries objecting to them being bombed by the US, but I doubt they get much sympathy or backing from anyone outside their own murderous circle.

[Amonester]

56. That's one of the most overlooked point: these young "idealists" killing-spree is leading them

nowhere. No official recognition from any other legitimate country on Earth.

Will not last very long, unless they can keep surviving committing crimes against the locals, and war crimes against other countries.

[LanternWaste]

60. A core cadre of 4,000 (with est: 25,000 militia) armed with SA-7s, Stingers, AT-4 Spigot, Type 59...

A core cadre of 4,000 (with est: 25,000 militia) armed with SA-7s, Stingers, AT-4 Spigot, Type 59 field guns, M198 Howitzers, Humvees, T-55/72 tanks, Blackhawk Helicopters.

3/4 of its $2 billion in finances were captured just this past June, along with millions in gold bullion.

It's relation to the civilian population is no worse than, nor no better than the Taliban's relation with the Afghani people circa 1991-2000 in that the people are submissive and cowed, i.e., their propaganda is nominally effective.





See: 2014 Guide to the Iraq Crisis: Terrorist Advances in Mosul, Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, by U.S. Government

[Spitfire of ATJ]

63. 4,000 out of a population of over 40,000,000 means they're outnombered 10,000 to 1...

Remember all the resistance our troops got? It's one thing to take a town, it's another to hold it and it's still another to be accepted as the new authority.

IOW: Expect to see some of these guys appearing as burned corpses hanging from a bridge soon.

[freshwest]

20. One problem here. Reading the links, they say it's not confirmed:

ISIS Spokesman Who Promised To 'Raise The Flag Of Allah In The White House' Reportedly Killed

As noted by The Independent, Mosa’s death has not been confirmed.

#Syria BREAKING: the #IS spokesman Abu Mosa who appeared in the @vicenews report was killed in #Raqqa province today pic.twitter.com/9IefnMcc6k

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/isis-spokesperson-reportedly-killed-syrian-army

ISIS spokesperson reported as dead

News of Abu Mosa’s death broke earlier this morning, however there has been no confirmation of the spokesperson’s demise.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/isis-spokesperson-reported-as-dead-9682738.html

Whether he is or isn't dead, he certainly won't be missed by me or most people, I'd wager.

[leftynyc]

33. It could be that

they're trying to draw him out and force him into the open to prove us wrong. If that is the case, I hope every noise he hears has him crapping his pants waiting for a missile to fall on his head.

[Galraedia]

48. The U.S. Department of State confirmed Mosa's death in a tweet:

An #ISIS leader and press officer both killed in Tabqa Airbase attack in #Syria #thinkagainturnaway pic.twitter.com/hEyv6CJ2Fn
— Think AgainTurn Away (@ThinkAgain_DOS) August 21, 2014

Source: http://www.thewire.com/global/2014/08/isil-press-officer-abu-mosa-killed-by-syrian-army/378994/

[karynnj]

57. To those who might question it, this does appear to be a verified State Department twitter account

https://twitter.com/search?q=thinkagains_DOS&src=typd

I had not seen anything from that - while following JK and often reading the accounts of the spokesperson (Psaki) and deputy spokesperson (Harf). I suspect that this account is new to others here as well. Unless I am missing something, it does seem to be a verified account.

[freshwest]

59. Yes, but that's not what was on the source links. I didn't want people surprised later.

[flamingdem]

50. Interesting that it's not confirmed and

I wonder if they are faking his death for a reason. I saw sad posts about his death on Isis twitter accounts but it seems convenient. I doubt they usually mourn in public. So maybe there's something strategic going and Mosa will go into hiding.

[freshwest]

61. Newer posts above give a state department tweet source, which I trust. So it's likely true, I only

posted that because the source links said it was 'unconfirmed.' And I don't think this is the end of any of this.

At any rate, the guy's no Osama Bin Laden, there will be ten more to take his place. So I can't celebrate this as the end of ISIS, or even a strategic victory.

Just one of many who will be killed, whether he himself was specifically targeted or his position was, IDK. Just didn't want anyone to be shocked if he did pop up again. And as I said, there will be ten more to take his place.

Another article I read that I was going to make an OP out of, cites a general saying the real issue at play here are the 20 million displaced Sunnis in Syria and Iraq. He said that until their needs are addressed, this will keep the fires going.

IMO, among those tens of millions, a sufficient number will join ISIS to create a new homeland, and then go on to repay those they see as the authors of their plight. Or maybe not, as they might stop being warriors and start doing constructive things, but I rather doubt that to be the case right away. They've got a hate fest going on, just as many groups historically. The Visigoths didn't sack Rome just on a whim.

Europe is probably the place on Earth with more wars than we have ever imagined. Europe and the Middle East have been pushing empires back and forth for millenia.

Some think this must be all of America's doing, ascribing a supernatural quality I call the new American exceptionalism to all that is going on in the world. Instead of our being the 'best' we are supposed to fit in a box of being the 'worst.' Thus we're still exceptional.

We are just a flash in the pan in world history. We just think we are more powerful and significant because this is our time and we've been taught we're special and our technology is advance. We're not 'gods.'

We are the most recent world actor, nothing is new and the world did not need us to teach it to be cruel and murderous. That's in our DNA.

We have simply been in a post WW2 system built to prevent another such event. I've read up on what the costs to the now widely hated Allied nations are and we lost a much larger percentage of people, civilian and military, and expended more resources, than the Axis powers did. I keep bringing up this graph to remind me of why we are in the UN, NATO, or why a nuke program began:



The world has been and is now, a mess. Security only lasts for a while, and is an illusion. Many of us want to return to a garden that never existed. But we keep trying.

Just a few thoughts.

[flamingdem]

68. Very interesting points

It's easy to lose sight of other ages and empires. What's so odd about Isis is that they seem to be from another era, as Obama says they don't belong in this century. So even the eras can get mixed up. Before we know it we'll be back in the stone age.

[Amonester]

22. Delusional freak is gone to meet his imaginary virgins...

What Fundamentalism is about: Delusion.

It's part of their recruiting PR.

No other Future for them: No jobs. No careers. No retirements. Nothing but guns, murders, lootings.

Sad.

[msanthrope]

36. Hey....they could be these virgins....

http://m.

[Warpy]

26. Gee, sucks to be, er, have been him.

They honestly think they can conquer the whole world with fewer than 10,000 trained men.

Well, good luck to them and the Cubbies.

[Amonester]

27. These "baby" jihadists have no idea how to govern.

They just like to kill and hope they will get killed while "jihading".

That's about it.

The Rise of the Islamic State and the Evolution of Violent Extremism
http://www.worldpoliticsreview.com/articles/13997/the-rise-of-the-islamic-state-and-the-evolution-of-violent-extremism

[Brigid]

51. There you go casting asparagus on my Cubbies again!

[Warpy]

62. It would have been the Red Sox

only they've been disappointing me by winning and not choking in September.

Pennant? World Series? Can Armageddon be far behind?

[MFM008]

30. They should drop

pictures of Bin Ladens head post seal team six all over ISIL territory.

[BumRushDaShow]

31. “raise the flag of Allah in the White House,”

So they don't believe the lunatic GOP here who keep claiming that this had already been done by the current WH occupant?? You know, those who insist there's a "Muslin" in the WH?

[bpollen]

35. I find it rather amusing that a fairly fundamentalist muslim

...would boast about raising a "flag of Allah" when the Quran prohibits images of Allah.

[jamzrockz]

38. What they call the flag of Allah

is the black flag they fly around with them. It doesn't actually contain any pictures

[samsingh]

39. good

[flamingdem]

40. Here is a screen grab of the Vice video with Abu Mosa enjoying his 15 min of fame

:large

[flamingdem]

41. It occurs to me that Isis will make us less forgiving of young people

since the recruits tend to be teenagers and twenty somethings.

Two girls from France were just detained on their way to join. 15 years old but driven to kill innocents.

[eissa]

47. Nice! Maybe now that we see the threat the Syrian government and people

are facing, we'll stop with this "we're just going to support the moderates" nonsense. I wonder if the Syrian Army's recent gains (they've taken back towns previously controlled by ISIS) has something to do with our newfound knowledge of how atrocious the opposition truly is?

[Ash_F]

49. Did everyone forget that these clowns were supposedly our best buddies

like... literally months ago?

[riqster]

58. Not ours. Just John McCain's.

[grahamhgreen]

71. They already have. They are the rebels we funded against Assad.