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IDemo

(16,926 posts)
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 12:34 PM Aug 2014

Perry campaign funds to cover future legal costs

Source: Associated Press

AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Republican Texas Gov. Rick Perry says any future legal bills he incurs fighting two felony indictments will be paid for with campaign funds, not taxpayer dollars.

Perry has spent $80,000 in public funds on the case so far, and has retained a high-powered team of attorneys moving forward.

But spokeswoman Lucy Nashed said Thursday that further legal bills would come out of campaign coffers. She says she didn't know if there are plans to reimburse the state for Perry's past legal expenses.

The governor isn't seeking re-election, but may run again for president in 2016. As of June 30, he had $4 million-plus in campaign funds.

Read more: http://www.stltoday.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/perry-campaign-funds-to-cover-future-legal-costs/article_18a7ecdc-52ab-542b-a462-41e4d871d74c.html



Anyone up on the legality of this? Seems I remember someone else recently getting into trouble for using campaign cash for lawyer bills.
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Perry campaign funds to cover future legal costs (Original Post) IDemo Aug 2014 OP
AHAHAHA!!! /nt Ash_F Aug 2014 #1
I feel his birth control glasses have clouded his vision. nt littlemissmartypants Aug 2014 #2
Corporations are people. Money is free speech. Just ask mein Gauleiter Scott Walker! bobthedrummer Aug 2014 #3
I hope it is legal in this case so the taxpayers don't have to pay. dballance Aug 2014 #4
Are you thinking of Senator Wide Stance? starroute Aug 2014 #5
There's also the Chris Christie case starroute Aug 2014 #6
Ya but this case with Perry sounds more like the other one as it was in the course cstanleytech Aug 2014 #8
Idiot blkmusclmachine Aug 2014 #7
 

dballance

(5,756 posts)
4. I hope it is legal in this case so the taxpayers don't have to pay.
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 01:42 PM
Aug 2014

I certainly don't want to set the precedent that campaign funds can be used for any personal expenses. However, it would be nice if the taxpayers of TX don't have to pay for Perry's legal fees.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
5. Are you thinking of Senator Wide Stance?
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 02:24 PM
Aug 2014

If you are, that case may not be entirely applicable, because whatever Perry did was in his role of governor and not as part of any personal hanky-panky.

http://www.fec.gov/law/litigation/fec_craig.shtml

On June 11, 2012, the Federal Election Commission filed suit in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia against former U.S. Senator Larry Craig and his authorized campaign committee, Craig for U.S. Senate, claiming that they converted more than $200,000 in contributions to Mr. Craig’s personal use. The suit names Craig for U.S. Senate ("Craig Committee&quot , Kaye O’Riordan (in her official capacity as treasurer for Craig for U.S. Senate) and Larry Craig as defendants.

The complaint alleges that during 2007 and 2008 Mr. Craig used campaign funds to pay legal expenses he incurred in connection with his June 2007 arrest at Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport, his guilty plea to a misdemeanor charge of disorderly conduct, and subsequent efforts to withdraw that guilty plea. From July 9, 2007, through October 5, 2008, the Craig Committee disbursed more than $480,000 for legal fees and other expenses. This sum includes more than $200,000 paid to two firms for expenses related to Mr. Craig’s efforts to withdraw his guilty plea.

The suit claims that these legal expenses were not incurred in connection with Mr. Craig’s campaign for federal office or with his ordinary and necessary duties as a Senator, and that the payment of these expenses with campaign funds amounts to impermissible personal use. The FEC seeks a declaration that this conversion of funds to personal use violates the Federal Election Campaign Act (the Act), a permanent injunction against future similar violations, an order that Mr. Craig repay the funds to Craig for U.S. Senate and a civil penalty against each of the defendants. . . .

On March 28, 2013, the United States District Court for the District of Columbia denied the Motion to Dismiss finding neither of the defendants' arguments persuasive. The court concluded that the expenditures for legal fees could not be characterized as ordinary and necessary expenses in connection with Mr. Craig’s duties as a federal officeholder and that the expenses would have existed irrespective of his duties as an officeholder.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
6. There's also the Chris Christie case
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 02:29 PM
Aug 2014

There it seems that campaign funds can be used to cover the reelection committee's legal fees, but not Christie's own personal expenses.


http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2014/02/11/christie-lawyers-ask-for-documents-from-fort-lee-mayor/

Gov. Chris Christie got some good news Tuesday.

He can use campaign funds to cover the cost of complying with subpoenas from the U.S. Attorney in New Jersey and a state legislative committee to his reelection committee. ...

The decision by the New Jersey Election Law Enforcement Commission also allows the reelection committee to raise money to pay for legal fees and other costs associated with complying with the subpoena.

It does not cover the governor's personal legal fees or former employees of his reelection campaign.

cstanleytech

(26,293 posts)
8. Ya but this case with Perry sounds more like the other one as it was in the course
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 06:57 PM
Aug 2014

of his duties as governor and that part he is covered on.
What surprises me though is they havent gone after him for extortion charges as thats what he essentially did.

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