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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 09:08 AM Aug 2014

ISIS operative who executed journalist James Foley may be a UK citizen

Source: The Guardian

By Nicholas Watt, The Guardian
Thursday, August 21, 2014 6:47 EDT

David Cameron has resumed his holiday in Cornwall after returning to Downing Street on Wednesday to chair a meeting of the government’s Cobra committee in response to the beheading of the US journalist James Foley, apparently by a UK citizen.

Downing Street said the prime minister would remain in touch with officials and would continue to make calls to world leaders as British intelligence officials seek to identify the Islamic State fighter who killed the journalist.

Sources have told the Guardian that the English-speaking jihadist, who spoke with a London accent and was known as John, is believed to be the leader of a group of British fighters who have been holding foreign hostages in the Syrian city of Raqqa, a stronghold of Islamic State (Isis) rebels.

Government sources suggested after the Cobra meeting that the prime minister, who watched the video of the beheading, did not see a need for any changes in the law. But there will be a strong focus on up to 250 UK citizens who are believed to have returned from Syria after fighting for Isis. It is estimated that between 400-500 British fighters remain in Syria and Iraq.

-snip-

Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/08/21/isis-operative-who-executed-journalist-james-foley-may-be-a-uk-citizen/

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ISIS operative who executed journalist James Foley may be a UK citizen (Original Post) DonViejo Aug 2014 OP
I'd hate to be a UK citizen get the red out Aug 2014 #1
Smells like bullshit. Just another excuse to implement more Patriot Act type measures against the GoneFishin Aug 2014 #2
Did you not hear leftynyc Aug 2014 #3
It's strange isn't it... CJCRANE Aug 2014 #6
The only smell is your post. IronGate Aug 2014 #7
Maybe the poster isn't disagreeing with that point. CJCRANE Aug 2014 #9
jebus what does it take to qualify as a murderer with sone people around here? Shivering Jemmy Aug 2014 #26
They are nutters. They are Frankenstein's monster, CJCRANE Aug 2014 #27
He Very Well Could Be Vogon_Glory Aug 2014 #8
The bull shit is contained in your comment... DonViejo Aug 2014 #11
I don't question that he is a British citizen. I also don't doubt that they will GoneFishin Aug 2014 #19
Interesting with all their measures how the real terrorists go wild! grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #18
After reading your post, Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #22
I hope we find and kill that son of a bitch Botany Aug 2014 #4
But the prosecutions are not, why not? grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #17
I agree with you 100%. CTyankee Aug 2014 #20
We have to learn to...Coexist Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #29
Report- UK has ID'd the guy. Rhinodawg Aug 2014 #30
Maybe we should bomb the UK! candelista Aug 2014 #5
Jolly good idea flamingdem Aug 2014 #10
too right grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #16
MI5? nt Zorra Aug 2014 #12
Do we invade Canada now? atreides1 Aug 2014 #13
Crap, you went there first:) But you're right, we should attack Canada before England, as per Bush- grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #15
LET'S ATTACK ENGLAND!!! grahamhgreen Aug 2014 #14
I keep thinking about the oceans of data shared by GHCQ and NSA suffragette Aug 2014 #21
They were running around in Turkey asking questions and tipping them off jakeXT Aug 2014 #23
It doesn't make any sense at all, does it? suffragette Aug 2014 #25
I'm guessing he'll have trouble buying life insurance.. KinMd Aug 2014 #24
Is he Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary? Could be. (link) Electric Monk Aug 2014 #28

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
2. Smells like bullshit. Just another excuse to implement more Patriot Act type measures against the
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 10:19 AM
Aug 2014

citizenry.

There's a commie (or the boogie man of your choice) under every bed don't ya know.

 

IronGate

(2,186 posts)
7. The only smell is your post.
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 11:11 AM
Aug 2014

Did you even listen to the tape? He certainly sounded English.
Sometimes it's exactly what it sounds like.

CJCRANE

(18,184 posts)
9. Maybe the poster isn't disagreeing with that point.
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 11:56 AM
Aug 2014

A boogeyman is still a boogeyman whether he's an Englishman or not.

Vogon_Glory

(9,118 posts)
8. He Very Well Could Be
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 11:56 AM
Aug 2014

The ISIS thug could very well be a British national. Britain does have a proportionately-large South Asian population, and I could well believe that some would choose to go in for jihad and adventure.

This is not to excuse the punk(s) who did the killing. Murder is murder, and I see no reason why progressives should applaud a band of bigoted sectarian religious thugs with penchants for ethnic and religious pogroms as well as the usual misogynistic brutalities the way they would genuine national liberation movements.

I hope some quiet, careful individuals living in some ISIS-controlled Hell on Earth are quietly, unobtrusively collecting the forensic evidence that could put these criminals behind bars for the rest of their lives the next time they come home from their brutal handiwork to take tea and crumpets in a civilized country.

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
11. The bull shit is contained in your comment...
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 12:33 PM
Aug 2014

The British government has acknowledged the man was a British citizen, a white British citizen. The government has also acknowledged that at least 500 British citizens have left the UK and joined ISIS.

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
19. I don't question that he is a British citizen. I also don't doubt that they will
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 09:19 PM
Aug 2014

exaggerate the domestic threat and use it as an excuse to pump more money into domestic surveillance and fight efforts to curtail spying on innocent civilians.

Botany

(70,508 posts)
4. I hope we find and kill that son of a bitch
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 10:23 AM
Aug 2014


Let's see how tough that bastard is when a marine recon outfit or a Navy Seal team
shows up in his house.

And once again thank you w Bush and Dick Cheney for starting that unneeded war in Iraq
in 2003 and the blow back is still happening.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
20. I agree with you 100%.
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 01:08 PM
Aug 2014

But should we kill him outright or extradite him to Britain for a trial? If he's a British citizen, he should go back there for trial. Of course, we could assist in getting the SOB and he might get killed in the attempted capture. But he might give up valuable information if taken alive...

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
15. Crap, you went there first:) But you're right, we should attack Canada before England, as per Bush-
Thu Aug 21, 2014, 12:55 PM
Aug 2014

logic!

suffragette

(12,232 posts)
21. I keep thinking about the oceans of data shared by GHCQ and NSA
Fri Aug 22, 2014, 11:16 PM
Aug 2014

All the money, time and personnel spent on gathering broad swathes of info on all of us. All the money diverted to this and away from social systems while we are told we must have Austerity.
And the results?
Hmm.
What really has it been for?

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
23. They were running around in Turkey asking questions and tipping them off
Sat Aug 23, 2014, 10:43 AM
Aug 2014


MILITANTS TIPPED OFF

A Syrian source close to the Islamic State told Reuters that the militants had been tipped off to the planned operation when Americans were seen asking about the hostages in the Turkish city of Antakya, about 12 miles (20 km) from the Syrian border.

“The Americans were looking for their hostages and desperately looking for any information,” said this person, who spoke to Reuters on the condition of anonymity.

“They met people in Antakya and asked questions. Afterwards, the operation became expected. The (Islamic) State anticipated the operation and took precautions. They expected it and that is why they have probably changed the location of the hostages.”

http://af.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idAFKBN0GM25W20140822?sp=true
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