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Efilroft Sul

(3,579 posts)
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 09:55 AM Aug 2014

Police reveal officer's name in teen's death

Source: Associated Press via Yahoo! News

FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) — Police in Ferguson have revealed the name of the six-year veteran accused of fatally shooting an unarmed black teenager in the St. Louis suburb.

Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson said Friday the officer's name is Darren Wilson.

Jackson said earlier this week he wasn't naming the officer due to death threats.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/turmoil-tear-gas-way-hope-ferguson-053336976.html

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Police reveal officer's name in teen's death (Original Post) Efilroft Sul Aug 2014 OP
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #1
Provide cites to backup your claim MynameisBlarney Aug 2014 #2
Yeah no shit apnu Aug 2014 #6
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #7
Where is the link?? bravenak Aug 2014 #10
Turn to CNN erpowers Aug 2014 #38
I do not have cable. bravenak Aug 2014 #41
Not Saying It Is Right erpowers Aug 2014 #54
Checked it out. bravenak Aug 2014 #56
Wow you're one sided Reter Aug 2014 #57
Blaming the clerk? bravenak Aug 2014 #58
The Link You Wanted erpowers Aug 2014 #43
That ain't how it works. MynameisBlarney Aug 2014 #11
Can we stop with the "STFU" business? candelista Aug 2014 #50
I had it on. He didn't say that Renew Deal Aug 2014 #16
First off...I don't believe for one nano second about the robbery suspect spin. FarPoint Aug 2014 #25
Here are the results if people are interested. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #23
I was on that jury as well davidpdx Aug 2014 #27
He is flagged now. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #29
My favorite treat is coming.... davidpdx Aug 2014 #30
I love pizza. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #35
#2, you're full of shit (ironically enough) DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2014 #31
I am disappointed it was not a 7-0 result. hrmjustin Aug 2014 #36
Good grief guys... mark67 Aug 2014 #53
Link please leftynyc Aug 2014 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2014 #5
Turn on CNN. It's breaking news. I'm not a liar, you're just out of touch. Trust Buster Aug 2014 #9
Cites or STFU. MynameisBlarney Aug 2014 #12
So. bravenak Aug 2014 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal Aug 2014 #14
Showing pictures of the assault and robbery at the convenience store right now on CNN n/t Bacchus4.0 Aug 2014 #28
You've convicted the murder victim based on something the pigs made up this morning. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2014 #19
The guy is on his way out the door davidpdx Aug 2014 #34
Good point. I took your advice and self-deleted. Thanks. nt. DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2014 #37
Oh, here we go with this crap!! bravenak Aug 2014 #8
The cops didn't say that Renew Deal Aug 2014 #15
Post removed Post removed Aug 2014 #17
The officer didn't make the connection Renew Deal Aug 2014 #18
I think that your sheets due back from the cleaners. Orrex Aug 2014 #20
For real, tho. bravenak Aug 2014 #21
WE don't know what we're talking about? bravenak Aug 2014 #22
"you people" L0oniX Aug 2014 #24
Kid, are you just sitting around waiting to behave like this? Android3.14 Aug 2014 #33
No mention of a "Darren Wilson" in the leaked list of employees. Hayabusa Aug 2014 #3
Soooo....apparently Anonymous got it wrong groundloop Aug 2014 #26
But you had to repeat the wrong name for whatever reason. LisaL Aug 2014 #32
It would certainly appear so! Efilroft Sul Aug 2014 #40
i'm guesing that Gov Nixon made it clear that they were to release the name, post-haste.. frylock Aug 2014 #52
Michael Brown suspect in robbery before he was shot to death, police say Bacchus4.0 Aug 2014 #39
You find that thrilling, don't you? Warren Stupidity Aug 2014 #60
Really sad, isn't it? The freshly hatched accusation has given racists a reason to live! n/t Judi Lynn Aug 2014 #62
It could be true -- but unfortunately the local police have shown they can't be trusted bigworld Aug 2014 #42
The cop's name VA_Jill Aug 2014 #44
Officer Zimmerman? Dark n Stormy Knight Aug 2014 #45
I'll never believe one word leftynyc Aug 2014 #46
Curious... logosoco Aug 2014 #47
It isn't a robbery. At best it was shoplifting. Certainly not a capital offense. 6000eliot Aug 2014 #48
Apparently that "convenience" store also sells "motive". savalez Aug 2014 #51
Hell, he was black.... brer cat Aug 2014 #55
This message was self-deleted by its author Garion_55 Aug 2014 #49
Man the fucking kool aid is strong here today Leontius Aug 2014 #59
Police identify officer, allege teen robbed store Judi Lynn Aug 2014 #61

Response to Efilroft Sul (Original post)

apnu

(8,758 posts)
6. Yeah no shit
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:04 AM
Aug 2014

If Brown was a suspect in a robbery, why is it coming out now when the cop's name is officially stated?

However, here's a DailyKos link mentioning the buffon who reported the cop's name but before implying Brown's a thief. http://www.dailykos.com/story/2014/08/15/1321847/-Michael-Brown-s-killer-identified

They can't help but dig this deeper. Sheesh.

Response to MynameisBlarney (Reply #2)

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
10. Where is the link??
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:06 AM
Aug 2014

It 'appears' to show that you're full of it. Link now!!!!! Prove it or buzz off back to your cave!!!

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
38. Turn to CNN
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:33 AM
Aug 2014

At this point CNN is showing photos they are claiming to show a person who looks like and is dressed like Michael Brown. CNN is reporting that the police are claiming Michael Brown was involved in a strong arm robbery. They (CNN) are pointing out that the police officer who shot him knew he was unarmed. However, a CNN anchor claimed just because Brown was unarmed that did not mean he was not able to hurt the police officer.

About a minute ago a CNN reporter came on air and said a police report written by a police officer not involved in the shooting claimed the shooting death of Michael Brown was directly related to the strong arm robbery and that Brown was the "main suspect" in the robbery.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
41. I do not have cable.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:38 AM
Aug 2014

Where are the cigars?? I saw no boxes of cigars laying on the sidewalk. He was laying there for hours, with absolutely no cigars.

Could be that he bought his clothes at the same big and tall store as another big and tall black dude that wears shorts and sandals in the summer.
Regardless, there was no execution order pending, so, I have no idea how this absolves the cop of the killing. A kid steals some cigars, so, shoot him?

The cop did not have time to view a video first.

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
54. Not Saying It Is Right
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:36 PM
Aug 2014

I am not saying the police were right to shoot Michael Brown. People were asking for a link to the information concerning Michael Brown. So, I pointed out that people could turn on CNN.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
56. Checked it out.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:40 PM
Aug 2014

The video shows the clerk confronting Mike in a physical way, blocking him from leaving, and trying to lock him in. He pushed the guy away from him, dude was in his personal space. Dude then tried to get physical again. Mike blocked that. Then he left. The man went to the door yelling angrily. The person with the anger problem was not Mike.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
57. Wow you're one sided
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:59 PM
Aug 2014

What happened was a tragedy and possibly murder/manslaughter. However, stop blaming the clerk.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
58. Blaming the clerk?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 01:03 PM
Aug 2014

The only thing i blame the clerk for is trying to confront a 'strong arm robber' physically and lock himself in with a vicious 'strong arm robber'.

You sure seem to want to blame me for something. I'll blame whomever i want to. I am American and do as I please. Fiddle dee!

MynameisBlarney

(2,979 posts)
11. That ain't how it works.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:07 AM
Aug 2014

You make the claim, YOU provide the evidence to back it up, if not....then shut your racist pie hole.

There are a bunch of breitbart and drudge trolls on Raw Story saying the same stupid shit.
I say the same to them as I do to you.

Cites, or STFU.

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
25. First off...I don't believe for one nano second about the robbery suspect spin.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:25 AM
Aug 2014

There would of been other officers present or called in before making contact with Michael Brown. Additionally, officer Wilson would of been out of the squad car with gun drawn instead of siitng on his ass and grabbing the kid through his window.
Secondly, officer Wilson shot unarmed Brown 35 feet away from the car, in the back. Lethal force not indicated regardless of what a suspect may of done.

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
23. Here are the results if people are interested.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:19 AM
Aug 2014

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
On Fri Aug 15, 2014, 09:10 AM an alert was sent on the following post:

No mention of the strong armed robbery that Michael Brown was involved in.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=871472

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Racist victim-blaming troll, trying to deflect attention from Mr. Brown's murder.

JURY RESULTS

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Aug 15, 2014, 09:17 AM, and the Jury voted 6-1 to HIDE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Please have facts ready or a link ready before you post. Thank you.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Just a statement of the fact that Brown was suspected of a crime. That is a fact. Excessive force is the problem, not whether Brown was a suspect. But that Brown was a suspect is a fact. Why remove a post that states a fact without vitriol? It's up to a DUer to answer that the fact that Brown was a legitimate suspect does not justify the use of out-of-bounds excessive force. The purpose of DU is to discuss, not repress discussion.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I think the post-ers handle is half right.
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: This is just flat out smearing a victim and not welcome here. The person has been a member for 5 months and has less than 300 posts. I think a MIRT referral is in order.
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Alerter is spot-on. This is uncritical wing-nuttery and should not be tolerated here.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
31. #2, you're full of shit (ironically enough)
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:28 AM
Aug 2014

The locked post didn't say anything about Brown being suspected of anything. The locked post didn't state any facts. What the locked post did say, very plainly, is that Brown did commit this alleged crime. #2, please brush up on basic comprehension of the written word before agreeing to further jury duty. This would have been a well deserved 7-0 decision had you read more carefully.

mark67

(196 posts)
53. Good grief guys...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 12:21 PM
Aug 2014

The poster was in error. Why can't we let the on-going discussion resolve the issue that the guy was posting speculation as fact. It's all over CNN now (speculation and fact).

Unless the guy was posting repeatedly with unwarranted speculation to disrupt the discussion (like some of the gun guys do).

Ban Him!!! Ban them all!!! (Yeah, that's sarcasm.)

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
4. Link please
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:01 AM
Aug 2014

The only place I'm seeing that is some right wing blog that says that's the reason he was stopped......which would mean the cops were lying this entire time saying they just wanted him and his friend to walk on the sidewalk. So which is it? Are they racists or are they liars?

Response to Post removed (Reply #1)

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
13. So.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:10 AM
Aug 2014

I guess you think it's okay to shoot shoplifters in the head. To chase them down the street and blow their brains out? You are disgusting.

Response to Trust Buster (Reply #9)

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
19. You've convicted the murder victim based on something the pigs made up this morning.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:16 AM
Aug 2014

And I'm out of touch? I believe that if you'll bootlick this authoritarian piece of shit and sign on immediately to a brand new theory that makes the deceased look bad, you're not "in touch" with much of anything. You categorically stated that he was guilty of this newly-discovered crime take that shit to your Klan website or FR, because that kind of racist bullshit doesn't fly here. Understood?

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
34. The guy is on his way out the door
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:29 AM
Aug 2014

I'd go back and delete that. It's not worth getting digged yourself.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
8. Oh, here we go with this crap!!
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:05 AM
Aug 2014

Oh, yeah, lets demonize the child and pretend he was involved in a robbery. Wh not murder? That would mean that it was perfectly okay to shoot him with his hand up.
You need to provide evidence, now! Or i will alert and then send it to admins.

Response to Renew Deal (Reply #15)

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
22. WE don't know what we're talking about?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:18 AM
Aug 2014

Ain't you the one that just called SHOPLIFTING a STRONG ARM ROBBERY? Yeah. You trippin.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
33. Kid, are you just sitting around waiting to behave like this?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:29 AM
Aug 2014

Do us all a favor and ask your mother to give you a Time Out.

Efilroft Sul

(3,579 posts)
40. It would certainly appear so!
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:35 AM
Aug 2014

I wonder, though, if Anonymous naming a name yesterday (even if it was the wrong name) expedited today's press conference where Wilson was cited as the shooter, to get ahead of another potential tragedy involving Willman and his family. The situation merits continued watching.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
52. i'm guesing that Gov Nixon made it clear that they were to release the name, post-haste..
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:36 AM
Aug 2014

pure conjecture on my part.

Bacchus4.0

(6,837 posts)
39. Michael Brown suspect in robbery before he was shot to death, police say
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:34 AM
Aug 2014
http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/15/us/missouri-teen-shooting/index.html

Investigators named Michael Brown, the teen shot and killed by police in a St. Louis suburb, as a suspect in a convenience store robbery that occurred moments before the shooting, according to Ferguson police documents released Friday. The documents say Brown stole cigars.

bigworld

(1,807 posts)
42. It could be true -- but unfortunately the local police have shown they can't be trusted
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:38 AM
Aug 2014

Why should anyone believe them now?

They own this, even if the kid did commit a crime.

VA_Jill

(9,983 posts)
44. The cop's name
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:43 AM
Aug 2014

and picture and all his information have apparently been scrubbed from the Ferguson PD site. This gives the *appearance* that they are lying, whether they are or not. So does the fact that they are NOW claiming that Michael Brown was a "suspect" in a convenience store robbery that supposedly occurred a few minutes before the shooting. That latter does not square with eyewitness testimony, particularly that of Tiffany Mitchell, who is a disinterested party since she did not know Michael Brown personally and just happened upon the shooting as it occurred.

Sorry, Ferguson PD, but y'all keep on digging that hole…….

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
46. I'll never believe one word
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 10:52 AM
Aug 2014

from the same police department that got caught doing this:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/15/the-day-ferguson-cops-were-caught-in-a-bloody-lie.html


Police in Ferguson, Missouri, once charged a man with destruction of property for bleeding on their uniforms while four of them allegedly beat him.

“On and/or about the 20th day of Sept. 20, 2009 at or near 222 S. Florissant within the corporate limits of Ferguson, Missouri, the above named defendant did then and there unlawfully commit the offense of ‘property damage’ to wit did transfer blood to the uniform,” reads the charge sheet.

The address is the headquarters of the Ferguson Police Department, where a 52-year-old welder named Henry Davis was taken in the predawn hours on that date. He had been arrested for an outstanding warrant that proved to actually be for another man of the same surname, but a different middle name and Social Security number.

“I said, ‘I told you guys it wasn’t me,’” Davis later testified.

He recalled the booking officer saying, “We have a problem.”

logosoco

(3,208 posts)
47. Curious...
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:04 AM
Aug 2014

the CNN report says the "robbery" took place moments before the shooting. Would the officer who shot the young man already know this? And know that he could have been a suspect? Why didn't the Ferguson PD report this DAYS ago?
There are two witnesses who say that Brown was not doing anything to the cop, as the cops are now trying to say.

Things just don't add up to me. But it seems like robbing a store does not call for being shot dead in the street.

6000eliot

(5,643 posts)
48. It isn't a robbery. At best it was shoplifting. Certainly not a capital offense.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:28 AM
Aug 2014

Also, it looks an awful lot like the connection between the two was only added after the fact.

savalez

(3,517 posts)
51. Apparently that "convenience" store also sells "motive".
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 11:35 AM
Aug 2014

Last edited Fri Aug 15, 2014, 04:25 PM - Edit history (1)

If you ask me this is just PR BS designed to split public opinion. Typical trash-the-victim crap.

Response to Efilroft Sul (Original post)

Judi Lynn

(160,545 posts)
61. Police identify officer, allege teen robbed store
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:08 PM
Aug 2014

Police identify officer, allege teen robbed store

By DAVID A. LIEB and ALAN SCHER ZAGIER, Associated Press | August 15, 2014 | Updated: August 15, 2014 3:05pm

FERGUSON, Mo. (AP) — Police on Friday identified the officer who fatally shot an unarmed black teenager and released documents alleging the young man had been suspected of stealing a $48.99 box of cigars from a convenience store in a "strong-arm" robbery shortly before he was killed.

Police Chief Thomas Jackson said the officer did not know the teen was a robbery suspect at the time of the shooting and stopped Michael Brown and a companion "because they were walking down the middle of the street blocking traffic."

Darren Wilson, 28, has been an officer in suburban St. Louis for six years and had no complaints filed against him, Jackson said.

Brown's relatives immediately questioned whether the officer really believed Brown was a suspect and said no robbery would justify shooting the teen after he put his hands up.

More:
http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Turmoil-tear-gas-give-way-to-hope-in-Ferguson-5690307.php

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