Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Judi Lynn

(160,542 posts)
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 03:04 AM Aug 2014

APNewsBreak: LA woman punched by patrolman speaks

Source: Associated Press

APNewsBreak: LA woman punched by patrolman speaks
By TAMI ABDOLLAH, Associated Press | August 11, 2014 | Updated: August 11, 2014 1:16am

LOS ANGELES (AP) — The woman whose videotaped beating by a California Highway Patrol officer sparked outrage says she believes the officer was trying to kill her.

In her first public comments since the July 1 beating on the side of a Los Angeles freeway, Marlene Pinnock recalled being repeatedly punched in the head while being pinned by the officer.

"He grabbed me, he threw me down, he started beating me, he beat me. I felt like he was trying to kill me, beat me to death," Pinnock told The Associated Press on Sunday.

Pinnock, 51, was released from the hospital last week after several weeks of treatment for head injuries and now slurs her speech, her attorney Caree Harper said.

Pinnock is suing CHP Commissioner Joe Farrow and Officer Daniel L. Andrew in federal court for civil rights violations. The lawsuit claims excessive force, assault, battery and a violation of her due-process rights. The CHP hasn't identified the officer, but the agency said he had been on the job for 1 1/2 years and is on desk duty pending completion of the internal investigation.


Read more: http://www.chron.com/news/us/article/APNewsBreak-LA-woman-punched-by-patrolman-speaks-5680552.php

52 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
APNewsBreak: LA woman punched by patrolman speaks (Original Post) Judi Lynn Aug 2014 OP
He was. DeSwiss Aug 2014 #1
Was the Officer ex military? FarPoint Aug 2014 #5
Not confirmed as yet....... DeSwiss Aug 2014 #8
Holy Crap!!!! FarPoint Aug 2014 #12
Violent people, military, people with misdemeanor abuse convictions on animals/people become police Sunlei Aug 2014 #22
"He should be wearing a cage" MannyGoldstein Aug 2014 #16
"L.A. Woman Punched By Patrolman... ReRe Aug 2014 #2
There is absolutely no justification for that beating. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #3
Agreed. Don't these fux know VIDEOs are everywhere... Amonester Aug 2014 #34
They should behave responsibly even without videos. Enthusiast Aug 2014 #35
Is this about the homeless women who was walking directly out in heavy traffic? B Calm Aug 2014 #4
penalty 4 walkinf into traffix = prize fighter beatdown? Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 #6
I never said that, you did! It could have been worse and the driver who may have B Calm Aug 2014 #9
thank gawd cop was there to pull her away from road AND beat the snot out of her. judge and jury Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 #10
Oh, since you put it that way I guess we should be thankful that it's just her that's going cui bono Aug 2014 #11
I don't know what it was you intended to convey with your comment...... DeSwiss Aug 2014 #17
Marlene's got a good ole smile there going for her. Hope it still works. n/t CincyDem Aug 2014 #51
She was carrying bags from shopping on the side of the road. She was not in the middle of the road Hestia Aug 2014 #23
Yes, the cop rescued that hypothetical driver from a life of living hell. merrily Aug 2014 #26
Yeah apparently she deserved to possibly have her speech slurred for life... VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #28
Hell, a beating like that could paralyze me. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #41
Understood! VanillaRhapsody Aug 2014 #43
You do seem to be downplaying the beating, at least somewhat. Which is a shitty thing to do. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #31
And what point are you beating around (no pun intended)? nm rhett o rick Aug 2014 #37
Retired truck driver here. I had a guy 20 years ago commit sucide by jumping B Calm Aug 2014 #39
I am sorry that happened but if you're trying to justify the police rhett o rick Aug 2014 #42
He shot her too? B Calm Aug 2014 #44
It's very hard to tell from your short posts whether or not you approve of the policeman's rhett o rick Aug 2014 #47
Perfect response. thanks. nt Cali_Democrat Aug 2014 #25
I'm glad more abuse victims are suing the cop directly Liberal_in_LA Aug 2014 #7
Insurance company and ultimately, tax payers, pay. The money seldom comes out of the cop's pocket. Hoppy Aug 2014 #15
It should. Maybe the chief's pocket, too. And the Mayor. merrily Aug 2014 #27
Lawsuits against the officer are usually thrown out under qualified immunity. NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #40
I don't think that would be impossible to prove in some cases, provided the merrily Aug 2014 #48
I don't always use excessive force... Earth_First Aug 2014 #13
Ain't that the truth damnedifIknow Aug 2014 #21
new motto. old man 76 Aug 2014 #14
Start resisting! Pleeease start resisting! IDemo Aug 2014 #29
How did this thug make it through the psych test? L0oniX Aug 2014 #18
Maybe because they LOOK for guys like him. Mojo Electro Aug 2014 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Mojo Electro Aug 2014 #24
WHAT psych test? Jackpine Radical Aug 2014 #33
Your assumption is that the psych test is to exclude psycho's. rhett o rick Aug 2014 #38
Well, the officer is white and the woman is black. So, that justifies it in a 1950s sense. 4lbs Aug 2014 #19
And in a Yahoo! News sense. Some of the threads over there are like a Klan meeting. nomorenomore08 Aug 2014 #32
You speak the truth. nt kelliekat44 Aug 2014 #36
Yahoo comments seem to collect the dumbest and most assholish people in the world. Nt NutmegYankee Aug 2014 #45
Why onecaliberal Aug 2014 #30
The official claim was that he was trying to protect her from getting hurt in traffic. tblue37 Aug 2014 #46
damn, that poor woman! TorchTheWitch Aug 2014 #49
What a shitty headline..."Woman punched.."? elias49 Aug 2014 #50
Thanks to the motorist driving by who stopped to video the beating. CincyDem Aug 2014 #52
 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
1. He was.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 03:07 AM
Aug 2014

His incompetence is the only reason he failed.

He was probably lousy soldier too.

That animal should not be wearing a uniform.

- He should be wearing a cage.

K&R

FarPoint

(12,409 posts)
5. Was the Officer ex military?
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 05:54 AM
Aug 2014

You know, I believe we are seeing a pattern with fresh ex military becoming law enforcement officers and the urge to use excessive force without provocation.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
8. Not confirmed as yet.......
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 06:07 AM
Aug 2014

...hell, CHP wouldn't even give his name out. We only know it because of the FEDERAL lawsuit. But I've seen pictures of those punches before.

- In Iraq. He's one of our walking wounded. The ones we teach that to have a good life you have to learn to kill.

He's punching himself......

[center]











Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
22. Violent people, military, people with misdemeanor abuse convictions on animals/people become police
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:54 AM
Aug 2014

""Appearing in court for a bond hearing Thursday, Gregg argued for a lower bond on the grounds that he is studying to become a police officer. Gregg is a student at Columbus State Community College.

"I'm actually in a law-enforcement program because I have been a police officer, so I have exams," Gregg said. "I know those charges are pretty serious, but if I don't show up for those exams I'll be in more financial ruins 'cause I don't have a job now."

Conklin Dairy Farms of Union County fired Gregg Wednesday. He faces nearly three years in prison if convicted of all 12 counts of animal cruelty. The charges are second-degree misdemeanors.""

And so, in the end this man (a Veteran) did have a few misdemeanor convictions. He's probably a police officer today.

warning , do NOT click on the below link and watch the video. Extremely violent animal abuse.


http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=63e_1274914564

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
3. There is absolutely no justification for that beating.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 05:17 AM
Aug 2014

I don't care how bad a day the officer was having.

I don't care if the woman did not obey his commands.

No justification.

The guy should never work in law enforcement again.

Enthusiast

(50,983 posts)
35. They should behave responsibly even without videos.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 05:12 AM
Aug 2014

Assholes!

But I thing every badge should have a chest video camera—mandatory.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
4. Is this about the homeless women who was walking directly out in heavy traffic?
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 05:34 AM
Aug 2014

Was she trying to get killed?

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
9. I never said that, you did! It could have been worse and the driver who may have
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 06:10 AM
Aug 2014

hit her would have been mentally scarred for life.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
10. thank gawd cop was there to pull her away from road AND beat the snot out of her. judge and jury
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 06:21 AM
Aug 2014

cui bono

(19,926 posts)
11. Oh, since you put it that way I guess we should be thankful that it's just her that's going
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 06:22 AM
Aug 2014

to be mentally scarred for life. From an intentional beating. By law enforcement. Otoh, maybe people who saw the beat down will be mentally scarred for life as well.

Why are you placing so little importance on her experience? Both of your posts are painting her as the wrongdoer here. I don't get it.

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
17. I don't know what it was you intended to convey with your comment......
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 08:06 AM
Aug 2014

...but I hope it was a poor choice of words.


Marlene Mardella Pinnock (2009)

- Marlene hopes so too.




She has a name........

 

Hestia

(3,818 posts)
23. She was carrying bags from shopping on the side of the road. She was not in the middle of the road
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 01:37 PM
Aug 2014

merrily

(45,251 posts)
26. Yes, the cop rescued that hypothetical driver from a life of living hell.
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 08:20 PM
Aug 2014

Too bad he had to beat the shit of the actual woman to do it.

She's lying there with her hands trying to protect her head. What are you seeing?

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
28. Yeah apparently she deserved to possibly have her speech slurred for life...
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 08:30 PM
Aug 2014

she is over 50 and has head and additionally, potential neck and spine injuries as well.....that she will likely never overcome completely. As someone who is suffering due to spinal injuries in my middle age....and who now has significant spinal arthritis....having spent the remaining years in and out of physical therapy and shots of cortisones multiple multiple visits to orthopedic doctors and chiropractic treatments ongoing actually heard the words recently "quality of life".....I can tell you that first hand.....beating someone like that at that age can mean she is suffering pain for the rest of her life. All it took was one rear end accident to for it to put me in lifelong pain.....no one should dismiss this beating so lightly.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
41. Hell, a beating like that could paralyze me.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:48 PM
Aug 2014

I have hemorrhaged cervical disks. You just live one day at a time.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
39. Retired truck driver here. I had a guy 20 years ago commit sucide by jumping
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:25 PM
Aug 2014

from the curb in front of my truck..

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
42. I am sorry that happened but if you're trying to justify the police
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:49 PM
Aug 2014

shooting an unarmed person, you'll have to say more.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
44. He shot her too?
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 07:10 PM
Aug 2014

A lot of posters are attacking me for no reason. I never said what the policeman did was right.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
47. It's very hard to tell from your short posts whether or not you approve of the policeman's
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 09:05 PM
Aug 2014

actions. It appears you are trying to rationalize if not justify the policeman's actions. If that isn't the case, just tell us what you feel.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
15. Insurance company and ultimately, tax payers, pay. The money seldom comes out of the cop's pocket.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 07:26 AM
Aug 2014

merrily

(45,251 posts)
27. It should. Maybe the chief's pocket, too. And the Mayor.
Thu Aug 14, 2014, 08:21 PM
Aug 2014

In the private sector, you sue the wrongdoer and the employer, on the theory that the employer is usually responsible for what the employee does in the course of doing his or her job.

If they all paid, you'd see how fast this would diminish.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
40. Lawsuits against the officer are usually thrown out under qualified immunity.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 06:45 PM
Aug 2014

To sustain the suit, the victim must prove that the officer knowingly violated their civil rights.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
48. I don't think that would be impossible to prove in some cases, provided the
Sat Aug 16, 2014, 12:15 PM
Aug 2014

jury did not get mesmerized by the defense, as they seem to in most of these cases.

However, my post was saying what I think should be the law, not what current law is.

Mojo Electro

(362 posts)
20. Maybe because they LOOK for guys like him.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 11:14 AM
Aug 2014

That's how bad it seems to be getting.

And you can't even speak out, for fear you'll be harassed and beaten yourself. Look at what happened to the man who filmed that cop choking that guy to death.

Response to Mojo Electro (Reply #20)

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
38. Your assumption is that the psych test is to exclude psycho's.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 09:54 AM
Aug 2014

Since there seem to be a lot of them on the police forces, I doubt the tests are to exclude them.

4lbs

(6,858 posts)
19. Well, the officer is white and the woman is black. So, that justifies it in a 1950s sense.
Mon Aug 11, 2014, 10:52 AM
Aug 2014

Oh wait, it's not the 1950s?

tblue37

(65,393 posts)
46. The official claim was that he was trying to protect her from getting hurt in traffic.
Fri Aug 15, 2014, 08:23 PM
Aug 2014

It reminded me of the old Vietnam War claim that we had to destroy the village in order to save it.

TorchTheWitch

(11,065 posts)
49. damn, that poor woman!
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 10:54 AM
Aug 2014

I can't stand to see the video. My stomach flipped over just from the photo.

I so hope her injuries aren't permanent.

 

elias49

(4,259 posts)
50. What a shitty headline..."Woman punched.."?
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 11:06 AM
Aug 2014

What they meant to say was "Woman severely beaten by sick cop..."

CincyDem

(6,363 posts)
52. Thanks to the motorist driving by who stopped to video the beating.
Sun Aug 17, 2014, 11:16 AM
Aug 2014


Marlene spoke a universal truth when she said "thank goodness a motorist stopped to video the incident or it would just be my word versus the police".

We all know how that would go.

Hell - even with the video, you know someone somewhere is going to try and position her as "the aggressor".

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»APNewsBreak: LA woman pun...