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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 03:35 PM Jul 2014

Mayor Forbids Atheist Booth, Comparing Group To KKK And Nazis

Source: Think Progress

The city of Warren, Michigan, and its Republican mayor Jim Fouts are facing a federal lawsuit from the American Civil Liberties Union and two other groups after Fouts rejected a local man’s request to set up an atheist station in the city hall atrium, and equated the atheist cause to the Nazi party and the Ku Klux Klan.

Since 2009, Fouts has permitted “prayer stations” run by a local church group that distributes religious pamphlets, discusses religious beliefs with passersby, and prays with visitors to the city hall. When Freedom From Religion member Douglas Marshall submitted an application to city officials in April to set up a similar, yet secular, station for two days each week, it took Fouts less than two weeks to reject his proposal. When interviewed by the Associated Press, Fouts defended his decision, saying:

The city has certain values that I don’t believe are in general agreement with having an atheist station, nor in general agreement with having a Nazi station or Ku Klux Klan station. I cannot accept or will not allow a group that is disparaging of another group to have a station here.

Marshall’s aim in reserving the space at city hall was to offer information and encourage discussion from a “non-religious perspective” counter to the prayer station run by the local church group. But in his rejection letter, Fouts wrote that the intent of Marshall’s station was to “deprive all organized religions of their constitutional freedoms or at least discourage the practice of religion” and said the city of Warren cannot allow this to happen. He said that while the prayer station helps citizens “seek solace or guidance,” Marshall’s station won’t “contribute to community values or helping an individual out.”

Read more: http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2014/07/25/3464169/aclu-sues-gop-mayor-who-compared-atheist-group-to-nazis-and-kkk/

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Mayor Forbids Atheist Booth, Comparing Group To KKK And Nazis (Original Post) uhnope Jul 2014 OP
If you insist on waddling around with your head up your ass Warpy Jul 2014 #1
Nice analogy... krispos42 Jul 2014 #6
If it's here, it's public domain Warpy Jul 2014 #7
What a Nutjob Mayor MagnumUK Jul 2014 #2
This what the hypocrite Rethuglicans think of the First Amendment . PIGS . geretogo Jul 2014 #3
Third degree stupid burns here! americannightmare Jul 2014 #4
KKK and Nazi's had 'Christian' basis, duh. nt Mnemosyne Jul 2014 #5
The KKK thinks of itself as a Christian organization fasttense Jul 2014 #9
What an asshole davidpdx Jul 2014 #8
What the hell is a "prayer station" doing in City Hall anyway? bread_and_roses Jul 2014 #10
Doesn't he recognize the hypocrisy? passiveporcupine Jul 2014 #11
Espousing atheism concerns freedom of speech, not just freedom JDPriestly Jul 2014 #12
Quick question. Half-Century Man Jul 2014 #13
haha riversedge Jul 2014 #19
Crazy "Christian" talk blkmusclmachine Jul 2014 #14
"a group that is disparaging of another group" Thor_MN Jul 2014 #15
The Mayor is hurting my head with his fallacious logic Jack Rabbit Jul 2014 #16
"I cannot accept or will not allow a group that is disparaging of another group to have a station" NYC Liberal Jul 2014 #17
So it isn't disparaging to tell people that God is sending them to hell? daleo Jul 2014 #18
Oh boy shenmue Jul 2014 #20

Warpy

(111,282 posts)
1. If you insist on waddling around with your head up your ass
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 03:38 PM
Jul 2014

it's no wonder all you ever see is shit.

Fouts is the worst sort of right wing zealot. I do hope this bites him back in November, but I don't know what his district is like.

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
9. The KKK thinks of itself as a Christian organization
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 04:37 PM
Jul 2014

and sings Amazing Grace at its meetings regularly.

Yup, that's why they went for burning crosses on the lawns of people they hated.

bread_and_roses

(6,335 posts)
10. What the hell is a "prayer station" doing in City Hall anyway?
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 05:40 PM
Jul 2014

Aside from all the other idiocy in the Mayor's position, why is a "prayer station" permitted in City Hall?

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
11. Doesn't he recognize the hypocrisy?
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 05:52 PM
Jul 2014
"I cannot accept or will not allow a group that is disparaging of another group to have a station here."


It's exactly what he is doing to atheists as a religious person.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
12. Espousing atheism concerns freedom of speech, not just freedom
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 05:54 PM
Jul 2014

of religion. I think the mayor is treading unsound ground. I don't think he knows what he is doing. He is violating First Amendment rights.

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
13. Quick question.
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 06:06 PM
Jul 2014

If " I cannot accept or will not allow a group that is disparaging of another group to have a station here." is the justification for his decision; do the republicans have to leave now?

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
15. "a group that is disparaging of another group"
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 06:33 PM
Jul 2014

Definition of many religions...

"I cannot accept or will not allow a group that is disparaging of another group to have a station here."

Mayor, you just banned any group that claims they are the one, true, religion. That is, unless you are a hypocritical asshole...

NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
17. "I cannot accept or will not allow a group that is disparaging of another group to have a station"
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 09:49 PM
Jul 2014

Oh, the irony.

And we all know that Christians have NEVER been "disparaging of another group".

daleo

(21,317 posts)
18. So it isn't disparaging to tell people that God is sending them to hell?
Fri Jul 25, 2014, 10:42 PM
Jul 2014

Which is what church groups routinely do to non-members, especially atheists.

"The city has certain values that I don’t believe are in general agreement with having an atheist station, nor in general agreement with having a Nazi station or Ku Klux Klan station. I cannot accept or will not allow a group that is disparaging of another group to have a station here."

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