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alp227

(32,025 posts)
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 05:59 PM Mar 2012

US World Bank nominee under fire over book

Source: Financial times

Jim Yong Kim, the US nominee to head the World Bank, is coming under fire over a book he co-authored that criticises “neoliberalism” and “corporate-led economic growth”, arguing that in many cases they had made the middle classes and the poor in developing countries worse off.

Some economists are arguing that Dying for Growth, jointly edited by Dr Kim and published in 2000, puts too great a focus on health policy over broader economic growth.

“Dr Kim would be the first World Bank president ever who seems to be anti-growth,” said William Easterly, professor of economics at New York University. “Even the severest of World Bank critics like me think that economic growth is what we want.”

Dr Kim, who is president of Dartmouth College and a former head of the HIV/Aids programme at the World Health Organisation, was a surprise pick for the top job at the World Bank, which traditionally goes to a US citizen.

Read more: http://liveweb.archive.org/http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/f8aa5390-7755-11e1-93cb-00144feab49a.html#axzz1qGIsBX2h

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US World Bank nominee under fire over book (Original Post) alp227 Mar 2012 OP
OH THE HUMANITY! Drunken Irishman Mar 2012 #1
WTF? Being for steady-state economics is BAD? zazen Mar 2012 #2
If said economy doesnt do the majority of the work for the 1% then ya its bad especially cstanleytech Mar 2012 #20
I like Dr. Kim, saw him in a rapper video....n/t monmouth Mar 2012 #3
That places him "under fire"?? Hell, it makes me want to hug him! arcane1 Mar 2012 #4
Sustainable ecomonics xtraxritical Mar 2012 #28
HERETIC !! BURN HIM !! eppur_se_muova Mar 2012 #5
Exactly WHO is upset Kelvin Mace Mar 2012 #6
+1, n/t RKP5637 Mar 2012 #7
The googles seem to think Easterly is a huge Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #10
Not just that but Kim's views go against capitalist philosophy. joshcryer Mar 2012 #16
I doubt he is anti-capitalist. former9thward Mar 2012 #17
I didn't say he was anti-capitalist. joshcryer Mar 2012 #19
What?! The World Health Organization is not upset! joshcryer Mar 2012 #15
Liking this guy more and more every day. Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #8
If you don't mind used, Powell Books and Half.com chill_wind Mar 2012 #23
Wow - thanks! Ruby the Liberal Mar 2012 #26
No doubt Easterly loves him some neoliberalism. mother earth Mar 2012 #9
Sounds like a good man dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #11
Unlimited, unbridled growth gratuitous Mar 2012 #12
Jim Yong Kim = Captain Obvious. n/t Ian David Mar 2012 #13
Such an excellent nominee. Crickets on DU! joshcryer Mar 2012 #14
So it is OK to have corporate hacks as inductry watchdogs, but... blackspade Mar 2012 #18
Capitalism is the money blood for all that is evil on this planet BanTheGOP Mar 2012 #21
I have an idea. xtraxritical Mar 2012 #29
Here he is, bustin some moves chill_wind Mar 2012 #22
I saw that a few days ago, glad you found it on YouTube. It's brilliant. The top comment... joshcryer Mar 2012 #24
Wow- he criticizes neoliberalism AND he can sing and move??? BeHereNow Mar 2012 #27
Anti-neoliberal Venezuela had spectacular economic growth (a sizzling 10%) 2003 to 2008. Peace Patriot Mar 2012 #25
Thank you Peace Patriot xtraxritical Mar 2012 #30
"We have to abandon the obsession with growth in economics." - Tomas Sedlacek Bavorskoami Mar 2012 #31
Who is surprised that an Obama pick is being criticized? Aerows Mar 2012 #32
WOOO!!! Get this guy in there ASAP! Odin2005 Mar 2012 #33
hire this man! Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #34

zazen

(2,978 posts)
2. WTF? Being for steady-state economics is BAD?
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 06:05 PM
Mar 2012

"Economic growth is what we want." Fuck you, econ professors. You're complicitous in how we got here. The "severest World Bank critics" couldn't even get PhDs in economics, let alone tenure track positions, because of the way you pro-growth fundamentalists control the academic discipline. So it's no shock you don't have a lot of company.

Methinks quite a few journalists have had to look up the word "neoliberalism." If this is what it takes to get this named on mainstream TV, well, that's a silver lining.

cstanleytech

(26,291 posts)
20. If said economy doesnt do the majority of the work for the 1% then ya its bad especially
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:24 PM
Mar 2012

if it does work thats actually more fair, after all the 1% are the job creators!!!

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
4. That places him "under fire"?? Hell, it makes me want to hug him!
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 06:07 PM
Mar 2012

Anyone who 'criticises “neoliberalism” and “corporate-led economic growth”' is the kind of person I WANT heading up the WB!!!

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
6. Exactly WHO is upset
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 06:18 PM
Mar 2012

according to the article?

Some economists.

Any in particular?

Well, they only name ONE guy.

“Dr Kim would be the first World Bank president ever who seems to be anti-growth,” said William Easterly, professor of economics at New York University. “Even the severest of World Bank critics like me think that economic growth is what we want.”

Actually, what we want is SUSTAINABLE economic growth involving TANGIBLE goods, not just bankers trading pieces of paper in a game of "Last Fool Standing".

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
10. The googles seem to think Easterly is a huge
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 06:41 PM
Mar 2012

Milton Friedman school "economist".

Disaster Capitalism anyone?

joshcryer

(62,271 posts)
16. Not just that but Kim's views go against capitalist philosophy.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 08:28 PM
Mar 2012

It's not just that one guy said something it's more that, anyone with any sense knows that this is not very popular within capitalist circles.

Best fucking nominee ever. Obama deserves reelection on this alone.

former9thward

(32,013 posts)
17. I doubt he is anti-capitalist.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 08:53 PM
Mar 2012

The editorial page of the Wall Street Journal, the most conservative editorial page of any paper in the U.S., agrees with you that this is Obama's best nominee ever.

Their quote: Over Dr. Kim's three years at Dartmouth he has proved to be higher education's Paul Ryan.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304636404577299532108156136.html?KEYWORDS=dr+kim+world+bank+head

joshcryer

(62,271 posts)
19. I didn't say he was anti-capitalist.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:09 PM
Mar 2012

Capitalism can still exist without neoliberalism. The leading global capitalist paradigm is neoliberal fascism. Thus Kim is again global capitalist philosophy.

Ruby the Liberal

(26,219 posts)
8. Liking this guy more and more every day.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 06:37 PM
Mar 2012

In fact, that book looks like a good buy to me, but Amazon's cheapest price is textbook range. $105.

Meh.

I'd like to read it.

chill_wind

(13,514 posts)
23. If you don't mind used, Powell Books and Half.com
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:59 PM
Mar 2012

have it in very reasonable used prices, I just saw, at a glance. One "like new" condition at half.com for $6.67. Quite a few more in "good".

mother earth

(6,002 posts)
9. No doubt Easterly loves him some neoliberalism.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 06:37 PM
Mar 2012

Kim is a good choice provided he lives up to what he espouses. Seems to me "health policy" certainly needs to be addressed in the big picture.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
18. So it is OK to have corporate hacks as inductry watchdogs, but...
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 09:39 PM
Mar 2012

not OK to have a 'people' advocate at the World Bank?

What a bunch of f'n hippocrites.

 

BanTheGOP

(1,068 posts)
21. Capitalism is the money blood for all that is evil on this planet
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:32 PM
Mar 2012

Capitalism has been the planet's worst nightmare and most egregious destroyer of human dignity and growth in history. The fact that the republican Party depends on such a subversive, oppressive policy is indicative of it's wanton and destructive nature, and until we have progressive economists such as Dr. Kim controlling the methodology of how wealth is maintained within the progressive groups and boards, this world is in a lot of pain.

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
29. I have an idea.
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:21 AM
Mar 2012

Why don't we throw everything there is into a big pile on the ground and fight for it. That's the fairest most efficient way, isn't it?

chill_wind

(13,514 posts)
22. Here he is, bustin some moves
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 10:42 PM
Mar 2012

on youtube


"Time of My Life" - Dartmouth Idol Finals, 2011

&feature=player_embedded

joshcryer

(62,271 posts)
24. I saw that a few days ago, glad you found it on YouTube. It's brilliant. The top comment...
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:03 PM
Mar 2012

...also made me laugh.

Ladies and Gentlemen, The Next President of the World Bank.

vtechyper 3 days ago

BeHereNow

(17,162 posts)
27. Wow- he criticizes neoliberalism AND he can sing and move???
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:16 PM
Mar 2012

LOVE this guy as the new head of the world bank!~!!
I love that video- thanks so much for posting it!!!



BHN

Peace Patriot

(24,010 posts)
25. Anti-neoliberal Venezuela had spectacular economic growth (a sizzling 10%) 2003 to 2008.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 11:12 PM
Mar 2012

Anti-neoliberal Bolivia followed suit, recently--it has one of the highest, post-Bushwhack-Depression growth rates in Latin America.

All the countries in LatAm with leftist governments have done well following the Bushwhack assault on the world economy. Many suffered a downturn in 2009 (notably, Venezuela, because of oil prices) and had a bit of a struggle climbing back into growth mode but have rebounded, precisely because of economic stimulus programs, existing and new social programs (education, health care, pensions for neglected groups), support for good wages, benefits and worker protections, loans/grant to small business, government investment in infrastructure, and other government SPENDING, which creates a base of new consumers and encourages other consumers to spend money, which creates product demand, business and growth--Keynesian ("New Deal&quot economics at work--as well as combining all this with strict regulation of banking, taxation (for fair taxation) and big business (to prevent price gouging, etc.) and avoidance of ruinous, U.S.-dominated loan institutions like the World Bank/IMF.

One other factor in play in LatAm's triumph over the Bushwhack/Wall Street horrors has been COOPERATION among LatAm countries, most especially among the countries with leftist governments, which has taken the form of "south-south" trade (rather than U.S. corporate looting), and the "raise all boats" philosophy of leaders like Hugo Chavez (Venezuela) and Lula da Silva (Brazil), which has helped smaller or poorer countries (for instance, with free or cheap oil from Venezuela in times of need or Brazil-Argentina-Venezuela aid for projects such as connecting Bolivia to the new super-highway from Brazil).

Anti-neoliberal Brazil (with a higher mix of capitalism in these mixed capitalist/socialist economies in LatAm) is regularly lauded in Wall Street-friendly publications like the Economist for its spectacular growth and poverty reduction. Poverty reduction has, in fact, been most dramatic in Venezuela--which was recently designated "THE most equal economy in Latin America" on income distribution, by the UN Economic Commission on Latin America and the Caribbean. But that is the corporate media's sly effort at "divide and conquer"--lauding Brazil because it's more corporate-friendly and non-stop slandering of the Chavez government in Venezuela and a total failure to mention ANY of its notable accomplishments. The leftist governments and leaders of Brazil and Venezuela are strong allies and have ignored this sort of tactic by the corporate press and the U.S. and its "neo-liberal" allies.

What is even more important, the VOTERS in Latin America have ignored the corporate press, there, here and worldwide, and keep electing leftist governments--in Venezuela, Brazil, Argentina, Bolivia, Ecuador, Uruguay, Paraguay, Nicaragua and El Salvador (and likely will do so in Chile in the next election)--and these electorates and the leaders they elect are, in turn, influencing countries with rightwing leaders (for instance, the new rightwing president of Colombia has promised universal access to medical care to Colombians this year--access to medical care for the poor majority is a pillar of leftist policy).

What the Corporate Press leaves out (or downplays) about Brazil's success (it never mentions Venezuela's success) is that the lynchpin of economic growth in Brazil has been a vast program of subsidized incomes for the poor! Classic Keynesianism. The leader who established this and other anti-poverty, GROWTH policies--Lula da Silva (former president; background as a steelworker) made no bones about his detestation of Wall Street and its "neo-liberal" advice. Those who have rejected the latter are prospering. Those who are still hog-tied to Wall Street and its bad advice--for instance, with U.S. "free trade for the rich" agreements--are NOT prospering and suffer endemic, intractable poverty.

The FT's equation of "neo-liberalism" with economic growth is plainly WRONG. What they mean by "growth" is the rich getting richer--not general prosperity--and, particularly, transglobal corporations and banksters getting richer by looting the poor.

 

xtraxritical

(3,576 posts)
30. Thank you Peace Patriot
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:29 AM
Mar 2012

you are exactly right. Keynesianism is the only viable economic theory extant even today.

Bavorskoami

(118 posts)
31. "We have to abandon the obsession with growth in economics." - Tomas Sedlacek
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 06:52 AM
Mar 2012

In the linked interview from the German news magazine Der Spiegel Czech economist Tomáš Sedláček discusses the morality of economic policies that stem from an obsession to pursue growth. He says such policies lead inevitably to debt and do not promote common good and fair distribution of wealth. Dr. Kim and Mr. Tomáš Sedláček may have some common values. It would be nice if Dr. Kim could bring Sedláček into the World Bank.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/business/0,1518,822981,00.html

By the way, can you imagine an interview like this in Newsweek or Time?

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
32. Who is surprised that an Obama pick is being criticized?
Tue Mar 27, 2012, 10:21 AM
Mar 2012

Obama's pick would be criticized had he put forth anyone short of David Koch, and I think the right would STILL criticize him if he did.

This is typical "Oh no, he's going to ruin things for the 1% because he gives a damn about the middle class. Oh the horror!"

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