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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:23 AM May 2014

UPDATED: VA chief resigns in midst of health-care scandal

Source: Washington Post

Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric K. Shinseki offered his resignation to President Obama in a meeting at the White House on Friday, and Obama said he had accepted. Earlier in the day, Shinseki apologized publicly for what he called an “indefensible” lack of integrity among some senior leaders of the VA health-care system, and he announced a process to remove top officials at the troubled VA medical center in Phoenix.



Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/shinseki-apologizes-for-va-health-care-scandal/2014/05/30/e605885a-e7f0-11e3-8f90-73e071f3d637_story.html?hpid=z1



Update:

Obama Announces Eric Shinseki's Resignation

President Barack Obama announced Friday that he has accepted Veterans Affairs Secretary Eric Shinseki's resignation.

"This morning I think some of you also heard Rick take a truly remarkable action. In public remarks he took responsibility for the conduct of those facilities and apologized to his fellow veterans and to the American people," Obama said in a statement from the White House briefing room. "And a few minutes ago he offered me his own resignation. With considerable regret, I accepted."

Obama said he was grateful for Shinseki's service and explained that the VA secretary told him that new leadership needed to address the agency's systemic problems with access to care. "He does not want to be a distraction, because his priority is to fix the problem and make sure our vets are getting the care they need. That was Rick's judgment on behalf of his fellow veterans. And I agree," he said. "We don't have time for distractions. We need to fix the problem."

Sloan Gibson, the deputy VA secretary, will take over as acting secretary of the agency, Obama said.

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UPDATED: VA chief resigns in midst of health-care scandal (Original Post) DonViejo May 2014 OP
Thanks for the heads-up derby378 May 2014 #1
that isnt going to solve the va's trouble leftyohiolib May 2014 #2
No, it will not. Throd May 2014 #8
So what happens now bpj62 May 2014 #3
A neccessary process in this mid-term year. dixiegrrrrl May 2014 #4
Hope this helps... DonViejo May 2014 #7
Shinseki had earlier said today... yallerdawg May 2014 #5
I hope Obama considers a Republican politician...Romney, for one. mikeysnot May 2014 #11
Lots of good reasons... yallerdawg May 2014 #15
Romney is a numbnutz with no veterans' issues experience. His "turnaround TwilightGardener May 2014 #19
You give him too much credit. mikeysnot May 2014 #21
I feel bad about that. Gen. Shinseki is a good man, and the VA must TwilightGardener May 2014 #6
Cutting through a bureaucratic tangle is tough, and Shineski was clearly not up to the job. Nye Bevan May 2014 #16
I'm going to say that it varies from hospital to hospital Victor_c3 May 2014 #18
I Was Surprised RobinA May 2014 #23
Damn. nt msanthrope May 2014 #9
Whoever takes the job next had better be prepared to wrestle with a 1000 pound tar baby. Throd May 2014 #10
And what happened to Gen. Shinseki... YvonneCa May 2014 #13
OT, but brave of you to use "tar baby" here. Many DUers (wrongly) consider that phrase to be racist. Nye Bevan May 2014 #20
I know, but it is the prefect metaphor for this situation. Throd May 2014 #24
How did this shit become a scandal now? mikeysnot May 2014 #12
IMHO, GOP needed a new issue because people YvonneCa May 2014 #14
Of course it is... mikeysnot May 2014 #17
What? Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #22
IMHO...no. Benghazi is an effort to paint Dems as inept... YvonneCa May 2014 #28
I agree, unfortunately Proud Liberal Dem May 2014 #29
Yes. Hopefully. GOTV... :) YvonneCa May 2014 #30
Really... RobinA May 2014 #25
I can concur Puppyjive May 2014 #27
Can we say the VA is going down according to GOP political design? Just like the USPS. Hugin May 2014 #26
Eggs-actly! The Republiscums want to privatize the VA. Major Hogwash May 2014 #31
The VA offers "specialized medical treatment that most local hospitals don't have any expertise in." Hugin May 2014 #32

bpj62

(999 posts)
3. So what happens now
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:28 AM
May 2014

Ok so now the Dems and the Repubs have the head on the platter that they wanted. It does not fix the problem that has existed well before General Shinseki accepted the Cabinet position. My fear is that will simply become a political football until the November elections and then it will be forgotten in the news cycle.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
4. A neccessary process in this mid-term year.
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:32 AM
May 2014

When Former VA official and injured Iraq veteran Rep. Tammy Duckworth, D-Ill., calls for Secretary Eric Shinseki's resignation, that is not easily ignored.
Shinseki did take the right step in removing senior officials at VA Medical Center in Phoenix.
We saw so many many partisan hacks in Shrub's Administration, and there was a lot of concern how many were still there, screwing up the gov't.

Anybody know who Sloan Gibson, Shinseki's replacement, is?????

DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
7. Hope this helps...
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:39 AM
May 2014

Sloan D. Gibson IV is the current acting head of the United States Department of Veterans Affairs and the United States Deputy Secretary of Veterans Affairs. He was confirmed to this position by the United States Senate on February 11, 2014.[1] He replaced former Deputy Secretary W. Scott Gould, who resigned on May 17, 2013.[2]

Before his appointment as Deputy Secretary, Gibson was the 22nd President and CEO of the USO. He assumed that role on September 1, 2008.[3] In 2004, he retired as Chairman and Chief Financial Officer of AmSouth Bancorporation. During his tenure, AmSouth became part of the S&P 500. In 2002, Mr. Gibson chaired the United Way campaign in Central Alabama

Gibson earned both Airborne and Ranger qualifications and served as an infantry officer in the U.S. Army.[4]

A 1975 graduate of the United States Military Academy at West Point, he also earned a Masters in Economics from the University of Missouri in Kansas City and a Masters in Public Administration from the John F. Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University.[4]

-snip-

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sloan_D._Gibson

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
5. Shinseki had earlier said today...
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:35 AM
May 2014

in 38 years of service to our country he had never encountered bald-faced liars like in the VA hospital admin.

I hope Obama considers a Republican politician...Romney, for one.

mikeysnot

(4,758 posts)
11. I hope Obama considers a Republican politician...Romney, for one.
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:48 AM
May 2014

What for the post of clown car chauffeur?

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
15. Lots of good reasons...
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:56 AM
May 2014

Romney has been involved with liars all his life. It takes one to know one.

The VA is a Republican problem, let them be held accountable.

Romney likes to fire people.

Obama has a history of Republican cabinet people for war issues -- I expect many Democrats would love to dodge this bullet.

Romney has bureaucratic business experience. He might be able to fix the VA, so not just a scapegoat.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
19. Romney is a numbnutz with no veterans' issues experience. His "turnaround
Fri May 30, 2014, 12:04 PM
May 2014

expert" shtick is mostly self-promoting fiction. He knows how to buy struggling companies, gut them, and leave them for dead. Yeah, what a great VA replacement.

mikeysnot

(4,758 posts)
21. You give him too much credit.
Fri May 30, 2014, 12:05 PM
May 2014

Don't you know. IOKIYAR.

Besides, Romney is only good at destroying companies by leveraged buyouts. looting pensions, liquidating assets, laying people off and putting the cash into his back pocket.

The wrong-wing would look at this as an accomplishment and good capitalism.

TwilightGardener

(46,416 posts)
6. I feel bad about that. Gen. Shinseki is a good man, and the VA must
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:37 AM
May 2014

be a very frustating, tough bureaucratic tangle to manage. My husband remembers going to a local VA office to ask a question during their VERY LIMITED office hours (they work a short day), only to find the door locked and a lone VA official sitting in her truck in the parking lot, getting ready to drive away, because she decided to close up and go home 20 minutes early. There must be a lot of such "dedicated" employees infesting that department, and changing that culture is probably more than one person could achieve.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
16. Cutting through a bureaucratic tangle is tough, and Shineski was clearly not up to the job.
Fri May 30, 2014, 12:00 PM
May 2014

Hopefully his replacement will be.

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
18. I'm going to say that it varies from hospital to hospital
Fri May 30, 2014, 12:03 PM
May 2014

I've never encountered anything like that in the nearly 6.5 years I've been going to the VA. I've spent a decent amount of time at the Wilmington, DE VAMC and the Castle Point, NY VAMC. The VAMC at Philadelphia I've heard is a complete disaster (but that was also 6 years ago).

The mental health people I stumble across when I bug out and show up at the local VA in one of my PTSD induced stupors demonstrate absolute compassion and dedication to me. I get the feeling that they genuinely care about helping people like me.

I'm sorry to see Shinseki leave. I really got the impression that this guy gave a damn about veterans and their problems. I hope he sleeps easy knowing that he did a good job and made a difference to some of us.

RobinA

(9,903 posts)
23. I Was Surprised
Fri May 30, 2014, 12:24 PM
May 2014

Shinseki even took that VA position. At this point in his life and career it was no win.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
10. Whoever takes the job next had better be prepared to wrestle with a 1000 pound tar baby.
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:47 AM
May 2014

Trying to tackle the systemic dysfunction at the VA will be a thankless task.

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
13. And what happened to Gen. Shinseki...
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:52 AM
May 2014

...is 'exhibit A.' I thank him for his service and his selflessness.

Throd

(7,208 posts)
24. I know, but it is the prefect metaphor for this situation.
Fri May 30, 2014, 12:24 PM
May 2014

If anybody wants to interpret a racist subtext into my comment then they are simply looking for an excuse to be upset.

mikeysnot

(4,758 posts)
12. How did this shit become a scandal now?
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:50 AM
May 2014

We all new this in 2005.... when the Iraq war victims of Bush's failed foreign policy for global multinational profits started coming home...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2760479

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
14. IMHO, GOP needed a new issue because people
Fri May 30, 2014, 11:54 AM
May 2014

...grew tired of their complaints about Obamacare. That election issue stopped working for them.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,452 posts)
22. What?
Fri May 30, 2014, 12:10 PM
May 2014

Has BENGHAZI already gone out of fashion?

Even Shep Smith over at Fox yesterday was calling out his fellow pundits about their demands for Shinseki to resign and Republicana for demanding immediate solutions for the VA without having investigations done. BTW what is that guy still doing over at Fox? He's much too "fair and balanced" for that station.

YvonneCa

(10,117 posts)
28. IMHO...no. Benghazi is an effort to paint Dems as inept...
Fri May 30, 2014, 05:46 PM
May 2014

...on foreign policy. That way, they can keep funding for the MIC. But, also IMO, they want to first discredit...then privatize public institutions. Obamacare, Medicare, the VA, SS, USPS, public schools all fall into that category. "If it's not working to discredit Obamacare, let's go after the VA" so to speak.

All these government institutions face modernization and sustainability problems. For me, the difference is Dems(Obama) generally want to preserve them as a needed safety net. Republicans, generally, want to get rid of them through privatization.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,452 posts)
29. I agree, unfortunately
Fri May 30, 2014, 06:04 PM
May 2014

Hopefully, we can keep the Republican's dystopian "vision" from becoming a reality

RobinA

(9,903 posts)
25. Really...
Fri May 30, 2014, 12:30 PM
May 2014

I've worked in a public sector health care setting (not the VA) for 6 years. The system I am in is pretty messed up. People leave here all the time for the greener pastures of the VA. Soon they are back. Sometimes they don't even make it out the door, the hiring process and shenanigans at the VA scare them off. The people at the VA have been working under adverse conditions for so long it has become truly warped.

Puppyjive

(509 posts)
27. I can concur
Fri May 30, 2014, 04:12 PM
May 2014

Having worked for the VA for two years, I had seen many fine professionals leave because they did not receive any support and were left to drown in a system where they were not adequately trained. It was sad, and I have seen many veterans waiting for appointments because of short staffing, and never once did the VA ever question the turnover problem. The problem is internal, runs deep, and I do not blame Shinseki for all of the issues, I place blame on the Inspector General Team, they do nothing to solve the problems.

Hugin

(33,222 posts)
26. Can we say the VA is going down according to GOP political design? Just like the USPS.
Fri May 30, 2014, 01:11 PM
May 2014

The situation at the VA became critically worse during the Government Shutdown and Furloughs last year.

Then the crippling sequestration and budget cuts for some time now.

I recall reading several articles about caregivers leaving the VA in droves. Particularly, the MDs.

IMHO, the GOP is trying to use this as a two-fer:

1) As an Obama bashing talking point for the 2014 mid-terms.
2) Ultimately using the resulting lack of service and personnel as a stick to beat the Federal Government with (read: DAMN WURTHLESS GUBBMENT SCREWS UP!i!!11!!(spittle)!!i!) in a justification for privatizing the VA. Something they've long dreamed of and since they can't get Obamacare, a nice plan B.


Mark my words, this is what is happening.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
31. Eggs-actly! The Republiscums want to privatize the VA.
Sat May 31, 2014, 01:59 AM
May 2014

If they succeed, healthcare costs in this country will go up, because the VA is very effective at what they do.
They offer specialized medical treatment that most local hospitals don't have any expertise in dealing with.

Hugin

(33,222 posts)
32. The VA offers "specialized medical treatment that most local hospitals don't have any expertise in."
Sat May 31, 2014, 03:55 AM
May 2014

That bit of your post needed some extra emphasis.

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