7 Dead in Drive-By Shooting Near UC Santa Barbara

[Hissyspit]

Source: Associated Press

@AP: BREAKING: Santa Barbara sheriff: 7 killed, including attacker, in shooting rampage near college campus

7 DEAD IN DRIVE-BY SHOOTING NEAR UC SANTA BARBARA

May. 24, 2014 6:39 AM EDT

SANTA BARBARA, Calif. (AP) — Authorities say seven people are dead and seven wounded in a drive-by shooting in a student enclave next to the University of California, Santa Barbara.

Santa Barbara County Sheriff Bill Brown said the dead in Friday night's rampage in the Isla Vista neighborhood included the suspected attacker who was driving a black BMW. Brown had earlier said the suspect exchanged gunfire with deputies before crashing into a parked car.

He said he didn't know whether the suspect was shot by deputies, or if his wound was self-inflicted.

The circumstances surrounding the shootings were under investigation.

Read more: http://bigstory.ap.org/article/3-dead-drive-shooting-near-uc-santa-barbara

[Recursion]

1. I'm several time zones off -- isn't it like the middle of the night there? (also, links)

That's really unusual as these things go...

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-uc-santa-barbara-shootings-20140524-story.html

http://abcnews.go.com/US/killed-mass-murder-shooting-uc-santa-barbara/story?id=23853918

[muriel_volestrangler]

3. "gunfire broke out around 9:30 p.m. Friday" - not that late

There'd be plenty of people out for Friday evening on the streets, and people would have started drinking.

[yurbud]

54. Santa Barbara is way off in the sticks too.

It's the kind of place you expect to hear about kids bashing mailboxes or cow-tipping not going scarface on each other.

[Bosonic]

2. 7 dead in drive-by shooting near UC Santa Barbara

7 dead in drive-by shooting near UC Santa Barbara

SANTA BARBARA, Calif. (AP) — Authorities say seven people are dead and seven wounded in a drive-by shooting in a student enclave next to the University of California, Santa Barbara.

Santa Barbara County Sheriff Bill Brown said the dead in Friday night's rampage in the Isla Vista neighborhood included the suspected attacker who was driving a black BMW. Brown had earlier said the suspect exchanged gunfire with deputies before crashing into a parked car.

He said he didn't know whether the suspect was shot by deputies, or if his wound was self-inflicted.

The circumstances surrounding the shootings were under investigation.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/3-dead-drive-shooting-near-uc-santa-barbara

[Botany]

4. It's the guns end of story

n/t

[DreamSmoker]

59. So this is the lame way you see this???

I disagree entirely....
I know for a fact that one of the root problems is the lack of help and support for the mentally Ill..
Another is the lack of action by many Cities.. Start with a No Gang-banger No tolerance stand..
These two things are the dominators of most Gun Violence in our streets across America...
Its worked like a magic for the City of Pomona California...
Since the Local Police called in the Feds for help??? Its gone so Quiet here.. Death by Gunfire in Our Streets has been silenced..

http://articles.latimes.com/2014/jan/13/local/la-me-ln-pomona-gang-homicide-20140113

http://www.streetgangs.com/hispanic/pomona/happytown#sthash.8lLT3Vdx.dpbs

[valerief]

69. Don't ignore the gun fetishization in America. Big gun fetish problem! nt

[christx30]

70. This wasn't a gang banger.

This was a rich, entitled, narcissistic asshole that couldn't get a date. Decided to spread the misery.

[Botany]

113. Yes that is the way I see and understand it and BTW it is not lame either

To deny that the proliferation of guns has not lead to the proliferation
of gun deaths and gun tragedies is simpley not true. I have hunted and
owned guns for years but America's gun culture and the ease with which
people and in many cases mentally ill people can get guns is sickening.

[haydukelives]

116. its the guns, end of story

is right.

[Warpy]

75. Honey, the gunz HELP

This POS would have had to exit his car and get close to his victims using any other weapon than a gun or bomb.

[840high]

101. He did use a knife.

[AtheistCrusader]

102. Yeah, they just found 3 more victims in his apartment. knife, apparently.

[SevenSixtyTwo]

110. Or he could have just

used his car.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/25/world/asia/suspects-in-china-market-attack-identified.html?_r=0

[mackerel]

5. Weird as the school year has ended there but I guess there are a lot of year round people

on UC campuses.

[Brother Buzz]

40. Final exams are just around the corner

Final examinations are June 7-13

[mackerel]

43. Really? The other UC campus' had graduations yesterday

I just assumed UC Santa Barbara did too.

[Brother Buzz]

44. It's a quarter/semester thing

UCLA and UCSB are still on the quarter system. My son finishes his final exam at UCLA on the 12th.

On edit: Eight campuses operate on the quarter system, while Berkeley and Merced are on the semester system.

[MADem]

6. Holy shit... nt

[barbtries]

7. my niece is going there

in August.
what the hell. i am so sick of a culture that values ownership of a deadly weapon over human life.

[olddad56]

74. my son was accepted at UCSB, but the mother of a friend of his...

who goes there warned me about the effect of the party culture at UCSB has had on her son. I'm sure that the school is a good fit for many students there, but it hasn't worked out for the 3 friends of my son who started there last fall. And I don't think it would have been the right fit for my son. I base this on the prevalent party culture at the school and in Isle Vista. My son is going to Cal and for all I know, that school may not be any better.

[barbtries]

100. my son goes to a notorious party school, ECU

and he's done very well there. He even waited until he was 21 to take his first drink. I'm sure your son will do great!

[olddad56]

119. thanks

Before this happened, I still was happy that he didn't choose UCSB.

[exboyfil]

8. Not yet confirmed but the police

are interested in a series of videos by an individual complaining he can't get a date.

"In graphic and unsettling detail, he describes how he plans to launch an assault on the streets of Isla Vista the next day and become a God who “exacts my retribution on all those who deserve it.” (The video is posted below. Please be warned: it is extremely disturbing.) Photographs taken by The Santa Barbara Independent of the suspect’s crashed vehicle on Del Playa Drive show a license plate number that matches the one on the car featured on Rodger’s Facebook page."

http://www.independent.com/news/2014/may/23/shooting-isla-vista/

[bigworld]

11. Certainly seems to be in love with his car

[exboyfil]

20. Don't you know cars are

chick magnets? (sarcasm)

[Blue_Tires]

21. Holy damn...

Shades of Virginia Tech (sexual frustration) and Ecole Polytechnique (general resentment towards women)

[ustilago]

9. The shooter...

The shooter was apparently a 22-year-old virgin who was angry because he couldn't understand why girls weren't attracted to him. He left a video on YouTube that he made before the shooting announcing his intent.

Seriously, there are no words. You would be hard-pressed to find a creepier, more narcissistic, self-pitying, mewling heap of c---s than that little piece of human s---.

[lunasun]

10. blames women for throwing themselves at “obnoxious brutes” but rejecting him, “the supreme gentlemen

[They_Live]

22. wow. You weren't kidding.

I've been looking at his other videos on you tube. Creepy spoiled creep.

[uppityperson]

51. A DUer is the reason an asshole shot and killed women? "Sex is a human right"?

So my right to say no, I don't want to have sex with a narcissistic creepy self pitying asshole, or any other jerk, has been taken away by the "UN and the European Court of Human Rights"?

Oh dear.

[lostincalifornia]

61. You are a jerk

[uppityperson]

64. Aw, I missed her reply. Thanks MIRT

[lostincalifornia]

78. I don't think it was a her, it was a obvious troll, and it was a sexist, anti-women garbage

Trying to justify the tragedy

I think that person is tombstones from here

[arcane1]

55. That is a perfect, spot-on parody of a typical clueless MRA asshole. Well-done!

[Sweet Freedom]

56. Enjoy your stay.

[lunasun]

12. dumb comment award on this story

MyronGaines 1 hour ago

Would this have happened if the illegals weren't allowed to vote and Romney won the election like he should have?

........
Others are outraged at gang bangers !!!

fyi He drove a BMW and his name is Elliot Rodgers (appears to be a WM with nary an accent )

[onehandle]

13. Moar Gunz! nt

[d_b]

14. here's the video from the

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"22 year old virgin who never kissed a girl"

Mommy and Daddy bought him a bimmer, and he STILL couldn't get any ass? I guess chicks dig guys with shoulders. Better luck next time, kid.


ps kid's a fucking whack job

[Le Taz Hot]

15. So, I'm guessing that the reason no one would go out with him

was that he creeps people out! People like that usually give off a "vibe" of DANGER, STAY AWAY! Can you imagine if some poor girl would have trusted him and gone out with him? He would have obsessed about her and terrorized her. The verbiage used: They "gave themselves" to other men. Not, "had sex with" but "gave themselves." This kid was a ticking time bomb and nobody notices? Well, actually they did which is WHY THEY DIDN'T GO OUT WITH HIM.

This guy's background is going to be interesting. My guess: privileged, over-indulged rich kid with a sense of entitlement and when he didn't get all the stuff he demanded, he "exacted his revenge." What a shitstain.

[840high]

103. He had Aspergers.

[Le Taz Hot]

106. He was also a sociopath.

Which is, I'm guessing, the reason he decided to murder for revenge. Aspergers patients are not sociopaths.

[TrogL]

115. I've got Aspergers. I don't go out shooting people

[Strelnikov_]

16. Wow, if this is true, the media is going to have a orgy

And, if true, it shows once again how smart women are.

This dude was a stalker/boyfriend kills ex-girlfriend in the making.

It was just a matter of time.

[former9thward]

17. "shows once again how smart women are"

I don't think one gender has the corner on being 'smart'. Look how many women give marriage proposals to serial killers in prison.

[PasadenaTrudy]

31. They were smart

in not going out with him. He wasn't asking men out....

[former9thward]

72. And that means all women are smart?

Which is what the poster I was replying to said.

[Tsiyu]

19. "If I can't have you, I will destroy you"

said every abusive person ever.


My condolences to the loved ones of his victims

[bossy22]

26. he sounds like he is on some form of psychotropic medication

in all seriousness. He is talking slowing and has an almost zombie-like expression in his face. I've seen this look/behavior on many of the patients I've seen in psych wards. I believe pharmacological therapy has an important place in the treatment of mental illness but I also believe it is over prescribed. It's easier to just tell a patient "here take 2 of these every morning" than actually having to spend an hour talking with them.

[Blue_Tires]

35. Either that or he stopped taking said medication...

[spin]

86. I also think this is a possibility. ...

All too often very dangerous drugs are passed out by doctors like candy. In most cases they can help treat a problem but in some I understand that they can cause suicidal thoughts especially when first taking them or if a person quits cold turkey.

[upaloopa]

105. You don't have a clue about what you are

talking about.
You have an uninformed opinion that's all!

[spin]

108. Here's some information on the side effects of antidepressant drugs you might be unaware ...

of.

7 Antidepressant Side Effects to Know About
Antidepressants can be effective, but you want to watch for side effects of these prescriptions for depression.

By Chris Iliades, MD
Medically reviewed by Farrokh Sohrabi, MD

***snip***

Suicide. The risk that taking an antidepressant will increase the risk of suicidal thinking has been extensively studied. According to most of the research, when compared with taking a placebo, taking an SSRI or another antidepressant doubles the risk for suicidal thinking. The overall risk of this depression medication side effect for children, teens, and adults is 2 to 4 percent. One reason why antidepressants may lead to suicide is that they may give a person enough energy to carry out a suicide plan. Regular follow-up with your doctor is the best way to prevent this side effect.
http://www.everydayhealth.com/depression/drug-side-effects.aspx

Violence and suicide caused by antidepressants

On March 22, 2004 the FDA issued an extraordinary Public Health Advisory that cautioned about the risks associated with the new generation of antidepressants (Prozac, Zoloft, Paxil, Luvox, Celexa, Lexapro, Wellbutrin, Effexor, Serzone, and Remeron). The warning followed a public hearing at which dozens of family members of victims testified about suicide and violence committed by individuals taking these medications.

While stopping short of concluding the antidepressants definitely caused suicide, the FDA warned that they might do so in a small percentage of children and adults. In the debate over drug-induced suicide, little attention has been given to the FDA's additional warning that certain behaviors are "known to be associated with these drugs," including "anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility, impulsivity, akathisia (severe restlessness), hypomania, mania."

From agitation and hostility to impulsivity and mania, the FDA's litany of antidepressant-induced behaviors is identical to those induced by PCP, methamphetamine, and cocaine, drugs known to cause aggression and violence. These older stimulants and most of the newer antidepressants cause similar effects as a result of their influencing brain levels of the same neurotransmitter, serotonin.

A new FDA warning issued on January 31, 2008 declared that yet another group of chemical agents used to treat mood disorders carried the risk of "symptoms such as anxiety, agitation, hostility, mania and hypomania" which "may be precursors to emerging suicidality." This time the culprits are antiepileptic drugs – medications used to control seizures. Because they cause sedation, these drugs are commonly used in psychiatry as "mood stabilizers." As a result of an orchestrated psychiatric campaign to diagnose children with "bipolar disorder," increasing numbers of children are being given these drugs.
http://www.breggin.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=43&Itemid=66

To be fair some question the validity of this research. Still I personally know a truck driver who was prescribed Lexapro as he was working odd hours and was having difficulty sleeping. He was not suffering from or being treated for depression.

He told me that one time shortly after he began taking the drug he had an almost overwhelming desire to drive his 18 wheeler into a bridge abutment and end it all. Fortunately he was able to overcome this feeling and drive home safely.

I also know several people who have benefitted from antidepressant drugs. Such drugs undoubted help most people in need of such medication but in a small number of cases they may cause suicidal thoughts. It's something to be aware of if you are starting to take such medication or if you are considering quitting these drugs.

Obviously more quality research needs to be conducted on this subject.

There might also be a link between psychotropic drugs and mass murder that might be wise to research. If you are interested in the least read the article in this link which is far to long to provide a meaningful excerpt limit to only a few paragraphs. (Please note that i am not claiming there is any definite correlation but merely that there may be.)

A Brief History of Psychotropic Drugs Prescribed to Mass Murderers
Submitted by Carol A. Clark on January 16, 2013 - 11:37am
http://www.ladailypost.com/content/brief-history-psychotropic-drugs-prescribed-mass-murderers

[vdogg]

32. Weird

The guy doesn't look half bad tbh. Makes me wonder why he wasn't able to get girls. I'm thinking that his mental illness had a large part to do with it. He probably unnerved people/made them feel uncomfortable when he was around them. It'll be interesting to see what people who knew him have to say about his overall demeanor. Also, this was posted the day before and no one said anything? People need to start taking this stuff more seriously.

[LisaL]

71. His videos were taken seriously.

"Schifman said in recent weeks that Rodger’s parents were concerned for their son's well being and reported his disturbing YouTube videos to police, which lead to an investigation. According to Schifman, police interviewed Rodger and found him to be “polite and kind.” He did not specify which law enforcement division conducted the interview."

http://abcnews.go.com/US/suspect-uc-santa-barbara-shooting-identified-family/story?id=23853918

[Tom Ripley]

68. Textbook psychopath

[Warpy]

76. Well, sonny, maybe if you approached them as people

instead of receptacles for your dick you might have gotten somewhere.

[Paladin]

18. The Gun Enthusiasts have to be pissed about this.

No gang involvement, a white guy in a BMW doing the shooting---so those 7 deaths can't be ignored.

[bossy22]

23. I'm pissed when I hear about anyone going out and killing innocent people

especially when it appears premeditated.

[Paladin]

25. So am I. But watch how our resident Gun Enthusiasts respond to gang shootings. (nt)

[bossy22]

29. I'll be honest- i have less sympathy for "non-innocent" people who die in gang violence

doesn't mean I smile when I see one of them die.

[spin]

89. As a gun enthusiast I find gang violence tragic. ...

In fact I find all forms of gun violence tragic including those incidents that involve the legitimate use of firearms for self defense. Anytime a person is shot and killed or seriously injured it is to me a tragedy. The last thing I would ever hope to do is to shoot another person even if it was to stop an attack that would put me in the hospital for a long time or six feel under. While that doesn't mean that I would be unwilling to shoot another person if I had absolutely no other choice, I also am well aware that it could cause significant psychological problems in my life dealing with the aftermath. I currently sleep well at night and have no desire to relive the incident in a nightmare. I also realize that my shooting another person is a tragedy to those in his family.

However your focus is on gang violence, which is largely a symptom of our failed War on Drugs. Prohibition of alcohol was also a failure. There were gang wars over the smuggling and sale of illegal alcohol just as there is today over the smuggling and sale of illegal drugs.

Prohibition

***snip***

Al Capone was the most notorious gangster of his generation. Born in 1899, Capone settled in Chicago to take over Johnny Torrio's business dealing with outlawed liquor. Within three years, Capone had nearly 700 men at his disposal. As the profits came in, Capone acquired finesse—particularly in the management of politicians. By the middle of the decade, he had gained control of the suburb of Cicero, and had installed his own mayor. Capone's rise to fame did not come without bloodshed. Rival gangs, such as the Gennas and the Aiellos, started wars with Capone, eventually leading to a rash of killings of epic proportions. In 1927, Capone and his gang were pulling in approximately $60 million per year- most of it from beer. Capone not only controlled the sale of liquor to over 10,000 speakeasies, but he also controlled the supply from Canada to Florida. Capone was imprisoned for tax violations and died January 25, 1947, from a heart attack and pneumonia.[29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition#United_States

[TexasTowelie]

27. Possibly.

We don't know whether any of the victims were "beautiful people."

[bossy22]

33. that doesn't really matter

the biggest problem is that all those victims are guilty of only one thing- being in the wrong place and the wrong time.

[hack89]

30. We get pissed at all violent crimes

that is why we are democrats.

[exboyfil]

34. Son of an Assistant Director of The Hunger Games

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10853875/California-drive-by-shooting-Son-of-Hunger-Games-assistant-director-Elliot-Rodger-suspected-of-killing-six.html

I am sure they will have some evil Hollywood meme start up.

[Cleita]

36. I figured as much. Child of parents who probably

turned over his raising to the help while they went on with their lives and weren't close enough to notice that their son needed help. And then there's the access to guns issue.

[fujiyama]

41. His mom sounds like an even greater piece of work...

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She's a "Real Housewife"

http://www.irealhousewives.com/2013/03/claudes-corner-meet-ladies-of-les.html

[deurbano]

46. I think she's his step-mom.

And now I feel guilty for knowing way too much about someone who did not deserve this much of my attention... while I know nothing about his victims.

[Cleita]

58. His victims and their families deserve privacy at this time.

He doesn't.

[deurbano]

65. I meant I've already paid too much attention to him, fulfilling what seems to be one of his

major goals for this-- notoriety. I don't care about his privacy... and I would never invade the privacy of his victims. I meant he didn't deserve any of the time and energy I spent learning superficial details of his life. Normally, I resist that.

[Cleita]

57. Yeah, I saw that. Never watch those shows, but it might be

interesting to look at her appearances.

[former9thward]

73. Access to guns?

He was an adult.

[Cleita]

83. So all adults should have access to guns you think?

I don't think so.

[former9thward]

90. No I don't think so.

We will have to wait for the facts to come out. It should not be long.

[AnalystInParadise]

66. Ummm he is mixed race

His dad is white, his mom is not.

[AnalystInParadise]

67. She is Arab from Morrocco

It doesn't mean anything other than the kid is mixed race.

[mwdem]

79. I believe that's his stepmom

From what I gathered from the French Real Housewives webpage noted earlier.

[shanti]

99. No, his real mother is Malaysian

It's his stepmother who is Moroccan.

[Sedona]

24. over and over again

[They_Live]

28. Oof.

[Jazzgirl]

37. He is a creepy fucker!

Even I can see that. I don't blame the girls for not wanting to go out with him. He seriously lacks social skills. Ewwwww.....

[fujiyama]

39. Answer to his question

Because you're a douchebag.

In all seriousness however, this kid was probably almost always given what he wanted and spoiled to the core. He probably was never taught the most basic concept of life at an early age - which is that it isn't fair.

Usually psychopaths like him exhibit traits early on that signal they are a risk to society or themselves. It's too bad no one caught them. I wouldn't be surprised if all the "warning signs" show up after the fact. Couple such anti-social behavior and/or mental illness with easy access to guns and you have a ticking time bomb.

[Plucketeer]

42. "I'm so magnificent"

This sad-ass video is about trying to convince himself of his "magnificence". Any gal of worth is gonna be gut-sick around this puke.

Of course, my sorrow is with the gun(s) he forced to do things they'd rather not. Can we have a moment of quiet condolence for this malcontent's piece?

[mackerel]

47. That's just so sad. He's so narcissistic and vapid and just has no sense of himself or his place in

the world. I only wish that those who had seen this prior to his violent rampage had notified someone in authority. Even in that youtube vid he was obviously starting to break down and was in a serious mental health crisis. Maybe his family just didn't realize the seriousness of his situation. I hope in the future people are more keenly aware of people like this and how they aren't just a danger to themselves but to others as well.

[PasadenaTrudy]

52. I just read

that he was being treated by a psychiatrist...

[gvstn]

63. I saw this comment from 4 days ago

In a thread pertaining to the creepiness of the video. For what it is worth from someone who went to H.S. with him saying he has some form of Asperger's:

http://www.reddit.com/r/cringe/comments/260fod/hes_magnificent_but_no_girl_will_ever_give_him_a/chmrhfr

It might explain his lack of social skills and effect.

[mackerel]

80. That makes so much more sense. I have a couple of friends with

sons like this and about the same age too. It's really hard to talk to them about anything they don't want to talk about. They aren't good listeners either.

[Tikki]

45. Hi ahmed_dijan33…WELCOME to DU...

There is so much sorrow surrounding this…


Tikki

[951-Riverside]

49. When this stuff happens in Black and Hispanic areas it barely makes the news.

I can guarantee most of you have never heard of these shootings

At least 7 wounded in shootings across Chicago
May 16, 2013
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-chicago-shooting-violence-man-shot-in-beverly-may-15-20130515,0,37916.story

Weekend violence leaves 9 dead, 47 shot
June 17, 2013
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-chicago-crime-shooting-gun-violence-marquette-park,0,2169540.story

Boy, 3, among 13 injured in Chicago park shooting

September 19, 2013
http://khon2.com/2013/09/19/boy-3-among-13-injured-in-chicago-park-shooting/

Fifteen shot across Chicago since Thursday afternoon
May 9, 2014
http://voices.suntimes.com/news/breaking-news/five-hurt-in-south-side-shootings-since-thursday-afternoon/#.U4DY2nJdXrA

Ten men shot across Chicago Tuesday
May 20, 2014
http://voices.suntimes.com/news/breaking-news/nine-men-shot-across-chicago-tuesday/

3 DEAD, 4 HURT IN CHICAGO SHOOTINGS ON THURSDAY
May 22, 2014
http://abc7chicago.com/news/3-dead-4-hurt-in-chicago-shootings/74868/

Three men shot in East Oakland
May 24, 2014
http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_25828947/three-men-shot-east-oakland

1 Killed, 3 Injured In Bellflower Barbershop Shooting
May 23, 2014
http://www.sfgate.com/news/crime/article/4-shot-in-or-near-Southern-California-barbershop-5502162.php

15-year-old dead, seven others wounded at New Orleans house party
May 23, 2014
http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2014/05/15-year-old_dead_others_wounde.html

There won't be 24 news coverage, there won't be memorial funds or politicians or gigantic public funeral services. There's barely video and most of the time, the victim's names are never known and the shooter gets away.

[lostincalifornia]

62. ok, then why don't you start a separate thread with that theme,

[alp227]

81. This post sounds pretty awkward.

What are you trying to say regarding black/Hispanic shootings? I hope I'm not reading this the wrong way, since this kind of argument is used by right wingers.

[951-Riverside]

87. Re: "What are you trying to say regarding black/Hispanic shootings?"

I'm saying its not reported and no one gives a shit. I guarantee you if 47 people got shot and wounded in a wealthy white neighborhood in one weekend it would be national news NON STOP for 24 HOURS and every politician would be fighting each other for camera time to put in their 2 cents but when blacks or Hispanics get shot up, its treated like just another day, no one gives a shit and most of the time it just becomes another cold case.

Hope that answers your question but of course you knew exactly what I meant

[bettyellen]

114. are any of those one person on a spree?

[demigoddess]

77. good thing he never married

sounds like a man who would have abused and probably killed his wife and kids.

[Rocknrule]

82. Calling it right now, he idolized the Columbine shooters

Seriously, these people are getting beyond predictable at this point

[Bosonic]

84. Three Bodies Found in Apartment of Suspected UCSB Shooter

Three Bodies Found in Apartment of Suspected UCSB Shooter

NewsChannel 3 witnessed forensics experts removing three bodies from the Capri apartment complex on the 6500 block of Seville Road Saturday afternoon.

There is no confirmation from authorities whether this latest discovery increases the number of people killed, which stands at seven, including the gunman.

Meanwhile, KEYT has obtained a 140-page manifesto reportedly written by Rodgers titled "My Twisted World."

"On the day before the Day of Retribution, I will start the First Phase of my vengeance: Silently killing as many people as I can around Isla Vista by luring them into my apartment through some form of trickery," the manifesto reads in part.

http://gawker.com/this-afternoon-at-least-one-body-was-removed-from-the-1581174371?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow

[Le Taz Hot]

88. OMG.

How horrible. There's supposed to be a live press conference by SB police department. I'm trying to find an source for a live feed. If anyone else has it, please post. Thanks.

[Cleita]

92. It's one of my local stations.

I'll watch and report if there is anything new.

[Cleita]

91. I get KYET. I don't usually watch it but will tonight

and see if they have anything to report.

[someone else]

95. Shooter had 3 semi-auto handguns

1 Glock G34, 2 Sig P226's and 44-10 round magazines. He legally bought all 3 guns.

[Cleita]

96. So they have reported. It seems the family

was concerned and reported to the police that they should check up on him. He also had a variety of medical help and therapy. So he had not been neglected as I thought at first.

So, the only thing I can think of is we don't have laws to put individuals like this under observation in a mental health facility when flags have been raised. Apparently the police had protocols they had to follow which meant unless the individual was showing certain erratic or violent behavior, they could do nothing.

[Dopers_Greed]

85. I bet the NRA is celebrating right now

EOM

[blkmusclmachine]

93. Never

Really

Accountable

[951-Riverside]

94. The Santa Barbara Police may have ignored warnings from family

but its no big deal, the victims and their families will get multi-million dollar (rightfully deserved) settlements using our tax dollars and the officers who ignored the warnings will receive additional training.

Rodger's father, a Hollywood director and his family say they warned police about disturbing videos weeks before the shooting rampage their son committed near a Santa Barbara university.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/05/24/shooting-california-santa-barbara/9532405/

[gvstn]

97. They probably did as much as they could according to the law.

Schifman said in recent weeks that Rodger’s parents were concerned for their son's well being and reported his disturbing YouTube videos to police, which lead to an investigation. According to Schifman, police interviewed Rodger and found him to be “polite and kind.” He did not specify which law enforcement division conducted the interview.

[Cleita]

98. It was explained that they do have strict protocols before they can

do some preventive measures.

[951-Riverside]

104. These "strict protocols" may have cost 7 people their lives.

The next time some asshole starts making threats on youtube or facebook, drag them off to the mental hospital, take their guns, pump them full of drugs and keep them there for life if need be. These people are a disease and need to be removed from society.

[Cleita]

107. Unfortunately, there needs to be laws in place to do this and

I guess we don't have them. People don't understand that police enforce the laws. They don't make them. My Congress person covers that district, but she's only Federal. I will be writing her to try to get some legislation on this. However, in Boehner's House, it's a long shot unless everyone piles up and demands it of Boehner.

[Democat]

111. The strict protocals are in place to protect people from forced commitment

This is not an easy issue for the law to deal with.

The United States could go back to a system where anyone, including the government themselves, could have you drugged and locked up in a mental hospital forever without a valid reason. But many lives were ruined by that system as well.

[SecularMotion]

117. I agree, the taxpayers shouldn't foot the bill. The gun manufacturers should pay for the damages.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

109. When I was the shooter's age I went through a rough period too

I felt alienated, alone, depressed, rejected, and misunderstood and I had trouble relating with women. I think a lot more young males go through that kind of thing than people realize. But never in a million years would I have taken a gun and shot at people. I blamed myself for being socially inadequate, not others. I was hurting inside and I didn't want others to suffer. I'm so glad it wasn't in my nature to become outwardly violent as I eventually grew out of my psychological malaise. I feel lucky that I didn't completely destroy my life and that of others the way this young man did.

[Sunlei]

112. everyone teens-20s gos through that. This may have been 'side effects' of psy. drugs he was on.

The list of serious side effects is a mile long. They way he obsessed and stalked, watched couples from his car, made many vids used the word hate, sluts as he watched people. Looked like he talked himself into murder/suicide.

There are to many people on those medications. Based on those vids and the family calling police, he should have been placed in a hospital right away.

[shanti]

118. i just finished his manifesto

what a blithering mess! one peculiar thing i noticed was how many times he either thought about or actually did throw drinks on people. that would have been defined as an assault. but he always managed to race away before they got his license plate number. he was so rage-filled and racist.

[fujiyama]

120. I suppose he got one thing right - the title of his "manifesto"; aptly titled "My twisted world"

and wow, that was one twisted mind. That was one bizarre, rambling, narcissistic, self centered, and delusional screed.

The racism and sense of elitism in particular caught my attention. He kept repeating that he was a "magnificent gentlemen". More like magnificently entitled psychopath. He seemed to have no understanding of how good he had it in this world, considering all his material advantages.