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onehandle

(51,122 posts)
Mon May 12, 2014, 03:23 PM May 2014

Scientists Warn of Rising Oceans as Antarctic Ice Melts

Source: New York Times

The collapse of large parts of the ice sheet in West Antarctica appears to have begun and is almost certainly unstoppable, with global warming accelerating the pace of the disintegration, two groups of scientists reported Monday.

The finding, which had been feared by some scientists for decades, means that a rise in global sea level of at least 10 feet may now be inevitable. The rise may continue to be relatively slow for at least the next century or so, the scientists said, but sometime after that it will probably speed up so sharply as to become a crisis.

“This is really happening,” said Thomas P. Wagner, who runs NASA’s programs on polar ice and helped oversee some of the research. “There’s nothing to stop it now. But you are still limited by the physics of how fast the ice can flow.”

Two papers scheduled for publication this week, in the journals Science and Geophysical Research Letters, attempt to make sense of an accelerated flow of glaciers seen in parts of West Antarctica in recent decades.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/13/science/earth/collapse-of-parts-of-west-antarctica-ice-sheet-has-begun-scientists-say.html



'This is really happening'

'There’s nothing to stop it now'


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Scientists Warn of Rising Oceans as Antarctic Ice Melts (Original Post) onehandle May 2014 OP
Yes, it is even too late to want deniers to go to prison for murder, apropos but too late randys1 May 2014 #1
But their Escalades and Maseratis will require mechanics and detailers... KansDem May 2014 #5
Waterworld! blkmusclmachine May 2014 #17
"Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi" - Republican Chorus AceAcme May 2014 #2
oh cool I will have beachfront property if it goes up 800 feet :-) nt msongs May 2014 #3
Go where the mansions are at 2k feet above sea level! Sunlei May 2014 #30
Someone should tell Marco 'The Water Boy' Rubio this, apparently he has not heard this before. winstars May 2014 #4
It's kind of like Jindal and the volcanic eruption w/i days of his SOTU response . . . hatrack May 2014 #6
He could be President of Water World! Sunlei May 2014 #31
Just another lib'rul conspiracy to distract from Ben Gazzi Newsjock May 2014 #7
And he rented "Ishtar" - twice! hatrack May 2014 #8
I have always suspected Antarctica had a liberal bias. tclambert May 2014 #20
I feel for the wildlife heaven05 May 2014 #9
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe May 2014 #10
But who are you going to believe, Fox News or your own lying eyes and a bunch of scientists? merrily May 2014 #11
I remember hearing that this might happen They_Live May 2014 #12
Rubio doesn't believe we have anything to do with this..... Swede Atlanta May 2014 #13
So, a group of small investors, wait for existing land to be submerged, take a chance on jtuck004 May 2014 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #15
Bye, FL! blkmusclmachine May 2014 #16
no more "Florida Man" nt Javaman May 2014 #18
Congratulations to Exxon-Mobil and the Koch brothers tclambert May 2014 #19
This should be the top news story everywhere in the world. tclambert May 2014 #21
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #22
We should be very proud! GliderGuider May 2014 #23
Oh, the Earth will be just fine. Stryder May 2014 #27
That's absolutely terrifying. nt. polly7 May 2014 #24
Move over dinosaurs (NT) The Wizard May 2014 #25
"What happens in the Arctic doesn't stay in the Arctic." CrispyQ May 2014 #26
you are right, and we are all connected.. olddad56 May 2014 #32
They don't care. They only think one quarter ahead. CrispyQ May 2014 #34
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2014 #28
amazing the quality of global scientists & imaging. Beautiful. I agree it is to late to stop now. Sunlei May 2014 #29
Recommend. n/t Jefferson23 May 2014 #33

randys1

(16,286 posts)
1. Yes, it is even too late to want deniers to go to prison for murder, apropos but too late
Mon May 12, 2014, 03:25 PM
May 2014

In one way the climate change denying motherfuckers are right, we probably cant stop it so why not rape the land of all the oil, make it worse while they get richer and buy more Escalades and more Yachts and more Maserati's

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
5. But their Escalades and Maseratis will require mechanics and detailers...
Mon May 12, 2014, 03:37 PM
May 2014

...and their yachts will require captains and crews.

Voila! "Job Creators!"

hatrack

(59,587 posts)
6. It's kind of like Jindal and the volcanic eruption w/i days of his SOTU response . . .
Mon May 12, 2014, 03:40 PM
May 2014

Kind of trivial, but I just couldn't resist.

Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
7. Just another lib'rul conspiracy to distract from Ben Gazzi
Mon May 12, 2014, 03:41 PM
May 2014

Did you know that the editor of Science and Geophysical Research Letters once dated a Russian pole dancer?

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
9. I feel for the wildlife
Mon May 12, 2014, 03:42 PM
May 2014

that had nothing to do with the tragic human folly that created this disaster. Hey Rubio, you are a dumb chump.

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
13. Rubio doesn't believe we have anything to do with this.....
Mon May 12, 2014, 04:00 PM
May 2014

At least according to his public statements. Personally I think he knows in his heart that pumping billions of tons of hydrocarbons into the atmosphere over the course of a century + has most certainly affected the planet's climate.

But what does he care? He and Senator I have my head up my ass (aka Inhoffe) are old enough they will both be dead before the worst of this comes home. Inhoffe has at best another 20 years left and Rubio has maybe 40-50.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
14. So, a group of small investors, wait for existing land to be submerged, take a chance on
Mon May 12, 2014, 04:28 PM
May 2014

predictions and buy where it drops


"many of the world’s coastal cities would eventually have to be abandoned."


and begin to raise rice with your new, free irrigation which, about that time, will have become a scarce commodity for people who have traditionally raised food.

Gonna be a big market for homes made out of shipping containers too (They float, right?). That's a lot of people, like hundreds of millions displaced by this.

Might keep a village going. Or if we are still choosing our Freedom from the menu of the wealthy, maybe make some money.

Because this is here.

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tclambert

(11,087 posts)
19. Congratulations to Exxon-Mobil and the Koch brothers
Mon May 12, 2014, 07:00 PM
May 2014

(and Fox News). Your efforts to delay any action on global warming have succeeded. It is now too late to stop a climate disaster. How proud you must feel.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
21. This should be the top news story everywhere in the world.
Mon May 12, 2014, 07:19 PM
May 2014

When the scientists say, "almost certainly unstoppable," the global reaction should be, "Oh, no!"

Response to onehandle (Original post)

Stryder

(450 posts)
27. Oh, the Earth will be just fine.
Tue May 13, 2014, 01:59 AM
May 2014

We however, it would seem, are fucked.
Arguably the most clever but stupidest species yet.
We saw it coming.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
32. you are right, and we are all connected..
Wed May 14, 2014, 07:31 PM
May 2014

I think that the oil companies and people like the Koch Brothers have spent a lot of money to spread denial about the global climate crisis, but they are costing themselves their own long term sustainability because the climate problems will collapse the world economy long before the seas rise 10ft.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
34. They don't care. They only think one quarter ahead.
Thu May 15, 2014, 11:53 AM
May 2014

It was many years ago but I heard Dennis Miller once say that he didn't care if the planet heated up so life was unbearable for his great-great-great-descendants - he wouldn't know them anyway. I don't get that mindset. I would think if you thought that way you would not reproduce, but how else can you explain the Koch's & oil company execs? Because I don't for a minute believe they are climate change deniers, but rather greedy profit takers. Personally I think we're fucked. There is no political will to change. You can't get most Americans to give up free plastic bags at the grocery store.

This: because the climate problems will collapse the world economy long before the seas rise 10ft.

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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
29. amazing the quality of global scientists & imaging. Beautiful. I agree it is to late to stop now.
Tue May 13, 2014, 05:34 PM
May 2014

Even the blue holes in many places are evidence of sea rise as the water in some is 40 feet deep & there is evidence of owl nests & ancient fire pits. Not to long ago those blue holes were dry caves.

There is even one cave in Florida where a ledge a couple feet under ocean level had remains of the humans who lived there only 200 years ago.

You can tell now where it will be really bad. Just try to buy flood insurance in some places.

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