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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 05:23 PM Apr 2014

Exclusive: Putin Halts All Talks With White House

Source: Daily Beast

As new U.S. sanctions against Russia loom, the Kremlin has shut down—at least for now—intensive high level communications between top U.S. and Russian officials.

Since the invasion of Crimea, President Vladimir Putin and President Barack Obama have had regular phone calls in an often half-hearted attempt to deescalate the ongoing crisis inside Ukraine. But as the U.S. and EU prepare to unveil new sanctions against Russia, Putin has decided the interactions should stop. The Kremlin has ended high-level contact with the Obama administration, according to diplomatic officials and sources close to the Russian leadership. The move signals an end to the diplomacy, for now.

“Putin will not talk to Obama under pressure,” said Igor Yurgens, Chairman of the Institute for Contemporary Development, a prominent Moscow think tank, and a close associate of Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev. “It does not mean forever.”

Obama and Putin last spoke over the phone on April 14, a call that the White House said was initiated at Moscow’s request. Obama urged Putin in the call to end Kremlin support for armed, pro-Russian activists creating unrest in eastern Ukraine. Obama also warned that the U.S. would impose more “costs” on Russia if Putin continued his current course. According to the Kremlin’s readout of the call, Putin denied Russian interference in eastern Ukraine and said “that such speculations are based on inaccurate information.”

Read more: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/04/25/exclusive-putin-halts-all-talks-with-white-house.html

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Exclusive: Putin Halts All Talks With White House (Original Post) dipsydoodle Apr 2014 OP
Denied (sort of) by state dept Bosonic Apr 2014 #1
I would assume dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #3
Hence the (sort of) Bosonic Apr 2014 #4
Did you read the comments on the link you posted ? dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #7
yes, most suspect diplomatic sophistry afoot Bosonic Apr 2014 #8
I liked dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #10
All this means is that the Russians won't be lying to Kerry or Obama's faces. nt geek tragedy Apr 2014 #2
"inaccurate information" ? Is someone reading the NYT? jakeXT Apr 2014 #5
This is going to end well..not maryellen99 Apr 2014 #6
this is not WWIII. What will be the most likely scenario if Putin invades eastern Ukraine is that lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #11
WW 3 kardonb Apr 2014 #12
I dunno...Kerry's Ravings seem pretty Megalomanical to my ear.... KoKo Apr 2014 #14
Americans have the bad habit of calling their enemies crazy. n/t Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #18
No. It has started. I am not as sanguine as ballyhoo Apr 2014 #21
Putin wants the Soviet empire back. nt awoke_in_2003 Apr 2014 #9
That tired Meme is all around put out by US State Department to whip the crowds in USA up KoKo Apr 2014 #15
I have to wonder who is pulling the strings on these two puppets. olddad56 Apr 2014 #13
Some of us don't wonder anymore. The history says...same folks who led us into KoKo Apr 2014 #16
Putin's too busy getting blown by NYtoBush-Drop Dead Apr 2014 #17
You thought that was a worthy contribution? Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #19
I think we can expect a Russian "security operation" Xolodno Apr 2014 #20
Lest we forget, this whole mess was instigated by the neocons - leave it alone, Dems. grahamhgreen Apr 2014 #22

Bosonic

(3,746 posts)
1. Denied (sort of) by state dept
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 05:32 PM
Apr 2014
The US has not suspended interactions between U.S.-Russian leadership counterparts, and has not been informed by Russian govt that it has.

https://twitter.com/statedeptspox/status/459798161696256001

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
3. I would assume
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 05:38 PM
Apr 2014

that Russia may not have bothered telling the WH if all communication has been shut down.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
5. "inaccurate information" ? Is someone reading the NYT?
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 05:42 PM
Apr 2014

Mr. Nurick said discussion had already begun inside the administration about where and under what conditions the United States might engage with Russia in the future. “But I can’t imagine this administration expending a lot of political capital on this relationship except to manage it so that the other things they care about a lot more than Russia are not injured too badly,” he said.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/20/world/europe/in-cold-war-echo-obama-strategy-writes-off-putin.html

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
11. this is not WWIII. What will be the most likely scenario if Putin invades eastern Ukraine is that
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 06:03 PM
Apr 2014

Russia will have opened themselves to another Afghanistan. Yes, the U.S. will continue with sanctions, and legislation will probably be passed to stop Exxon and other potential deals that would have meant and influx of money to the Russians. In addition, I have no doubt that behind the scene support will occur from the west to Ukraine. It will be a long and drawn out process, and eventually, Russia will withdraw, because it is to costly to maintain an Army in Ukraine.

 

kardonb

(777 posts)
12. WW 3
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 06:28 PM
Apr 2014

the cold war NEVER ended ! I really think Putin is going nuts , megalomanic ravings and totally irresponsible behavior .

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
21. No. It has started. I am not as sanguine as
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 10:52 PM
Apr 2014

others here that it will end any time soon. And there will be prices to pay on both sides. By mid-July we will know how bad it is going to get, IMO. It's another bankers' war.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
15. That tired Meme is all around put out by US State Department to whip the crowds in USA up
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 08:34 PM
Apr 2014

to give more of our tax dollars to the Pentagon, CIA/FBI (now involved with CIA in International) and the Usual War Crowd who get whipped up seeing $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ SIGNS whenever an "unwinding of current wars" takes hold in American Psyche.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
16. Some of us don't wonder anymore. The history says...same folks who led us into
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 08:35 PM
Apr 2014

Middle East...Iraq/Afghanistan/Libya/Syria/Ukraine/Sudan/Africom. WE ARE EVERYWHERE.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
20. I think we can expect a Russian "security operation"
Fri Apr 25, 2014, 09:33 PM
Apr 2014

Putin wanted a federalized and neutered Ukraine as the price of not having Ukraine squarely in Russia's influence. The US did not give any indication they were amicable to it. Only thing I heard on that was they thought they could add it to the election in May...and given that pro Russia candidates were getting some rough treatment in the west Ukraine...it was just lip service.

If Russia intervenes, they will take eastern Ukraine and may go far as Odessa (to hook up with the breakaway republic in Moldavia). Western Ukraine will be a state that's not self sufficient...probably get absorbed or propped up by Poland.

The line about a second round of sanctions is also misleading....its well known that the EU has telegraphed they are not interested in more sanctions against Europe. And then when you add that Russia may use the WTO to eliminate the current ones....well...they won't have any teeth and the EU sanctioning Russia means they sanction themselves.

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