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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 09:01 AM Apr 2014

Sen. Warren says she’s not running for president

Source: ASSOCIATED PRESS

WASHINGTON (AP) — Sen. Elizabeth Warren is insisting she isn’t running for president in 2016.

She says to interviewers, “You can ask this a lot of different ways. The key is, I am not running for president.” Warren, whose name has been mentioned in building Democratic speculation, said she wants to fight for the consumer issues she champions.

She acknowledges to “CBS This Morning” she was disappointed that President Barack Obama didn’t select her to head a new consumer protection agency. But Warren also says it “was never about a political future for me.”

Warren says the playing field has to be leveled between the well-to-do and the struggling in America, adding that “we have to make changes right now.” She said the economic system currently doesn’t work very well for ordinary people.

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Read more: http://www.salon.com/2014/04/22/sen_warren_says_shes_not_running_for_president/

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Sen. Warren says she’s not running for president (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2014 OP
Language is important. "I am not running for president" is not the equivalent of.... Smarmie Doofus Apr 2014 #1
Actually, yes it is. She will not run in 2016 IMO. Trust Buster Apr 2014 #2
Actually, it's not. And, obviously it's making some nervous. n/t Dawgs Apr 2014 #5
And obviously making yet others rationalize her words into something they don't mean, too. LanternWaste Apr 2014 #24
No, if Hillary decides to run it's hers........ Trust Buster Apr 2014 #35
Elizabeth over Hillary any day. Fearless May 2014 #80
I agree. The article author took some liberties when he/she made the statement, rhett o rick Apr 2014 #18
Here we go again......... Beacool Apr 2014 #28
They're gonna make her! Like those who want to bring the kingdom of heaven by force. Won't work. n/t freshwest Apr 2014 #45
They twist themselves into a pretzel in all their convoluted thinking. Beacool Apr 2014 #47
Hey, reality is too much work. Fantasy is fun, cheap and effortless. n/t freshwest Apr 2014 #48
I agree with you (n/t). spooky3 Apr 2014 #54
I thought the same thing. Auntie Bush May 2014 #72
Maybe something else for her. iandhr Apr 2014 #3
I suggested that awhile ago... malthaussen Apr 2014 #14
Hillary would never name EW as AG. Jamie Dimon or Lloyd Blankenship maybe, but not EW. Scuba Apr 2014 #19
Jamie wouldn't take the job... malthaussen Apr 2014 #22
Better yet, Fed Chairman or Treasury Secretary. Beacool Apr 2014 #29
That's a great idea! Auntie Bush May 2014 #75
She could stay in the Senate. Beacool May 2014 #78
You want Elizabeth Warren to run? yallerdawg Apr 2014 #4
Many Dems will go independent if Hillary runs and she won't win. L0oniX Apr 2014 #7
Sadly, HRC is going to be the next president Kelvin Mace Apr 2014 #9
In her new book, "A Fighting Chance," I understand that Elizabeth Warren was told by an unnamed JDPriestly Apr 2014 #37
I think Warren could be president Kelvin Mace Apr 2014 #38
Yes. Our nation is not just veering right but is tilting so far as to lose its moral bearings. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #56
Agreed Kelvin Mace Apr 2014 #57
Actually, I'm a woman, and I really don't like the term PUMA. JDPriestly Apr 2014 #58
Um, you're thinking of "Cougar" brooklynite Apr 2014 #60
you would prefer Jeb Bush? olddad56 Apr 2014 #49
The lesser of two evils is still evil Kelvin Mace Apr 2014 #51
And even if that is, absurdly, granted whatthehey May 2014 #65
Nothing "wrong" with it Kelvin Mace May 2014 #71
And everyone agrees that another Clinton or Bush would make the most depressing election ever AngryAmish May 2014 #68
"Those will be your two choices in 2016." Le Taz Hot May 2014 #70
Yep, that's the spirit. Beacool Apr 2014 #30
Exactly, letting the perfect be the enemy of the good KinMd Apr 2014 #53
Cut off your nose to spite your face huh ? Trust Buster Apr 2014 #36
Yea we suck less ...enjoy that. L0oniX Apr 2014 #39
...and the Dem corporate centrists breath a sigh of relief. L0oniX Apr 2014 #6
I believe her but if she changed her mind I would not be surprised. hrmjustin Apr 2014 #8
Please change your mind Elizabeth... nyabingi Apr 2014 #10
“was never about a political future for me.” dotymed Apr 2014 #11
Warren is great right where she is. Arguably she can accomplish much more in the Senate than maddiemom Apr 2014 #12
Exactly yallerdawg Apr 2014 #13
+1 freshwest Apr 2014 #46
What total BS. Name a Senator who had more influence than FDR, LBJ or WJC. Scuba Apr 2014 #20
If the next Senate Majority Leader... yallerdawg Apr 2014 #25
Put those goal post back where you found them! Scuba Apr 2014 #27
LBJ while a senator. That's how he knew how to get things done as POTUS. maddiemom May 2014 #62
Drivel. There's a reason POTUS is considered the most powerful position in the world. Scuba May 2014 #64
I remember how many times Christie denied he was running in 2012... malthaussen Apr 2014 #15
that was then. reddread Apr 2014 #16
Please don't insult Warren by comparing her stance to Christie's. Beacool Apr 2014 #31
Good grief. malthaussen Apr 2014 #44
Uh oh ... hope there isn't mass suicide cosmicone Apr 2014 #17
No, but among some there will be ballyhoo Apr 2014 #21
Maybe not, but denial ain't just a river in Egypt......... Beacool Apr 2014 #32
You really should delete that comment. William769 Apr 2014 #33
Thank you. It is called macabre humor. cosmicone Apr 2014 #40
I agree.. it's stupid. Cha Apr 2014 #59
A bummer and a shame IkeRepublican Apr 2014 #23
You said a mouthful. Beacool Apr 2014 #34
Well..maybe she could be Hillary's Vice President... Stellar Apr 2014 #26
Hillary will probably choose cosmicone Apr 2014 #42
While I am hoping for Warren I'm betting your pick will be our ticket in 2016 mikekohr Apr 2014 #52
Point taken... Stellar Apr 2014 #55
I'm not either. NorthCarolina Apr 2014 #41
She can fight the fight in the Senate Marrah_G Apr 2014 #43
Tell me, has anyone in this thread actually lifted a finger to GET Warren to run? brooklynite Apr 2014 #50
Pres. Hillary R Clinton 2016 ! c588415 Apr 2014 #61
that should be enough to make Warren run. yurbud May 2014 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author c588415 May 2014 #74
Mine too. Auntie Bush May 2014 #73
But what about Al Gore? Is he running? Tommy_Carcetti May 2014 #66
Well she better start or the primary will be very awkward. AngryAmish May 2014 #67
she knew she had no chance Enrique May 2014 #69
It's Hillary's turn. DeSwiss May 2014 #76
Bill will be intern co-ordinator yurbud May 2014 #77
! DeSwiss May 2014 #81
No, that's not the point. Beacool May 2014 #79
could you put that in terms of policy positions of hers you like? yurbud May 2014 #82
 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
1. Language is important. "I am not running for president" is not the equivalent of....
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 09:10 AM
Apr 2014

" I will not run for president."

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
24. And obviously making yet others rationalize her words into something they don't mean, too.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 11:50 AM
Apr 2014

"and, obviously it's making some nervous..."

And obviously making yet others rationalize her words into something they don't mean, too.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
35. No, if Hillary decides to run it's hers........
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 12:47 PM
Apr 2014

..........Elizabeth Warren is not as irrational as some.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
18. I agree. The article author took some liberties when he/she made the statement,
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 11:05 AM
Apr 2014

"Sen. Elizabeth Warren is insisting she isn’t running for president in 2016." and didnt include a supporting quote. They did quote her as saying that she isnt running for president. And no one is running until they decide to start their run.

I am not saying she is running, I am not saying she isnt. We dont know and those that pretend are only voicing wishful thinking.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
28. Here we go again.........
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 12:07 PM
Apr 2014

Warren keeps repeating the same thing over and over, but her supporters won't believe her.



freshwest

(53,661 posts)
45. They're gonna make her! Like those who want to bring the kingdom of heaven by force. Won't work. n/t
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 07:09 PM
Apr 2014

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
72. I thought the same thing.
Tue May 6, 2014, 08:58 PM
May 2014

She is not running for President now. But, she can run in the future so they can't say she lied. I personally think she plans on running and already sounds like a presidential candidate.

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
3. Maybe something else for her.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 09:20 AM
Apr 2014

Like Attorney General. I would love to see that. That alone would stop wall street from committing crimes.

malthaussen

(17,209 posts)
14. I suggested that awhile ago...
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 10:23 AM
Apr 2014

... and was branded a Hillary-lover. I think Warren and AG fit like hand in glove. Sadly, the Statute of Limitations is kicking in for the people who trashed our economy, but Warren as AG could stop the next gang-rape.

-- Mal

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
78. She could stay in the Senate.
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:21 AM
May 2014

I'm thinking of other options in case she would like to work for the next Democratic administration.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
4. You want Elizabeth Warren to run?
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 09:24 AM
Apr 2014

Give her a Democratic Congress in 2014!

If it goes republican't, there is no way a progressive liberal has a chance in 2016.

And our last, best hope will be Hillary, who will be labeled a progressive liberal, but we know what we will get if she wins - and it won't be an Elizabeth Warren.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
9. Sadly, HRC is going to be the next president
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 09:56 AM
Apr 2014

unless something goes very wrong.

She has made all of the right noises to reassure our corporate masters that they will be allowed to plunder unmolested if she is elected. She will be the Dem nominee and no one in the current GOP field can touch her.

They will try, of course.

Liberals find themselves once again in the position of voting for the lesser of two evils and being told to shut up and clap harder. Our votes are taken for granted because the alternatives are so much worse.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
37. In her new book, "A Fighting Chance," I understand that Elizabeth Warren was told by an unnamed
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 01:01 PM
Apr 2014

person from the Obama administration to be a "cheerleader."

That is a sexist, very offensive thing for anyone associated in any way with the Obama administration to have made.

Here is the Washington Post's review of Elizabeth Warren's "A Fighting Chance."

One sweltering day, 12-year-old Elizabeth comes upon her 50-year-old mother, sobbing and trying to squeeze into her best dress, scared but determined to apply for a job answering phones at Sears. When she finally gets it on, she turns to her daughter and says, “How do I look? Is it too tight?” Of course it is. But Warren does the right thing.

“I stood there, as tall as she was. I looked her right in the eye, and said: ‘You look great. Really,’ ” Warren writes, recalling it as the moment when, “I wasn’t a little girl anymore.”

It may have been the last time Warren pulled her punches. That’s certainly the case in this book, which mostly details her decades struggling against financial institutions that, in her view, are bent on picking every last penny from our pockets even if they destroy the country in the process — along with too many lapdog lawmakers who abetted their actions. As such, it is a political narrative first and an autobiography second. Yes, it tells how a self-described, daughter of a “maintenance man” attended college on a debate scholarship, went to law school and, one day while she was home caring for her two young children, received an unexpected call from Rutgers University asking her to teach a law course — immediately. The judge scheduled to teach never showed up; were his identity revealed, he might be the most hated man on Wall Street.

Such was the inauspicious beginning of a career that led to path-breaking research on bankruptcy while teaching law at the University of Texas, the University of Pennsylvania and Harvard; her evolution as a financial watchdog for ordinary Americans, too many of whom were the victims of predatory banking practices; her role as the brains behind the creation of the federal Consumer Financial Protection Bureau; and, finally, her improbable election to the Senate from Massachusetts in 2012. The odds were against Warren in that hard-fought race not just because of former senator Scott Brown’s popularity, but because, as Rebecca Traister of the New York Times pointed out, the Bay State is not kind to women, having hanged more of them as witches during the 1600s (14) than it has sent to Congress in all the years since (five, including Warren).

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/a-fighting-chance-by-elizabeth-warren/2014/04/21/fb894b68-be9b-11e3-bcec-b71ee10e9bc3_story.html

Elizabeth Warren, no matter what she says now, has a fighting chance to be president. She is an amazing woman with a story and political and moral positions far more compelling and courageous than Hillary Clinton.

I think, again, that Elizabeth Warren has a fighting chance to be president.

I would like to see her become president. I definitely want to see her run. And I would also like to see Bernie Sanders run.

We need to get the message out there that our financial sector has to be reformed and we need to curb the NSA spying and be much more open about what is going on with our national security sector. I don't think Warren is particularly interested in curbing the NSA or in being more open about national security (or at least not hiding embarrassing dust and details under that huge rug we call national security when in fact they are barely if at all related to our national security), but if we could get a better ethical standard in our financial and business sectors, the struggle to get Warren (or perhaps Sanders) on the podium in our presidential debates and quite possibly in the White House would be well worth it.

Hillary is more of the same. Elizabeth Warren would mean changing direction toward more economic fairness.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
38. I think Warren could be president
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 01:22 PM
Apr 2014

but the Dem establishment has already chosen (and by Dem establishment, I mean its Wall Street masters).

If Warren tried to run, she would be smeared as a "spoiler" from day one. I have already seen people make "Ralph Nader" comparisons on this very board. "Pragmatists" love to tell you that there are huge differences between the parties. But both parties skew to the right, it is just a matter of degree.

Sure we get the occasional leftwardly thrown crumb (health care/Gay rights), but the Democratic Party continues to the right in the aggregate (torture, war, de-regulation, pro-fossil fuels, tax reform, etc).

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
56. Yes. Our nation is not just veering right but is tilting so far as to lose its moral bearings.
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 01:36 PM
Apr 2014

We have lost sight of the human reasons and values that give the existence of our country and our Constitution meaning.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
57. Agreed
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 03:56 PM
Apr 2014

And it is rather amusing that some of the rabid PUMA crowd is back raving at the mere thought of anyone challenging HRC.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
58. Actually, I'm a woman, and I really don't like the term PUMA.
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 05:56 PM
Apr 2014

What do we call men in their 50s who marry very young women?

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
60. Um, you're thinking of "Cougar"
Wed Apr 23, 2014, 07:21 PM
Apr 2014

PUMA is a a reference to Party Unity My A**", an 2008 anti-Obama movement alleged to be former Clinton supporters angry at the way Obama ran in the Primary.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
49. you would prefer Jeb Bush?
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 08:12 PM
Apr 2014

those will be your two choices in 2016. Take your pick. I'll vote for Hillary if she is the democratic candidate.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
65. And even if that is, absurdly, granted
Tue May 6, 2014, 11:53 AM
May 2014

What exactly is wrong with lessening evil?

When you are faced with the certainty of either a hefty kick in the teeth or a light tap on the wrist with no other options, do you waste your time yearning for a big kiss or hold out your wrist?

I understand that going in. Some don't.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
71. Nothing "wrong" with it
Tue May 6, 2014, 12:22 PM
May 2014

except that it is still evil.

What exactly is "wrong" with lessening the suffering in murder? Nothing is "wrong" with it, other than the fact that it is STILL murder.

 

Trust Buster

(7,299 posts)
36. Cut off your nose to spite your face huh ?
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 12:49 PM
Apr 2014

I'm glad Warren doesn't make decisions based on emotion.

dotymed

(5,610 posts)
11. “was never about a political future for me.”
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 10:02 AM
Apr 2014

IMO, THIS is what makes her so desirable in our great time of need.
It is NOT about her. I am still hoping for a long-term PROVEN person for the people, but kie I said in another post;
Senator Warren has been proving herself very well. So far, great.
Senator Bernie Sanders has proven himself for decades and his political knowledge is vast.
We know that over the long haul, he has never lost sight of his mission to represent the PEOPLE.
Of course, Senator Warren has not either.
Bernie has said that he may run for POTUS.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
12. Warren is great right where she is. Arguably she can accomplish much more in the Senate than
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 10:15 AM
Apr 2014

in the White House.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
13. Exactly
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 10:22 AM
Apr 2014

What can a liberal progressive president expect to accomplish if Congress will not pass anything?

For Elizabeth Warren to run for President, she would have to have a Democratic Congress.

If we can give her that now, 2016 will look a lot different.

And after she announces, she can honestly say, "NOW I am running for President."

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
25. If the next Senate Majority Leader...
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 11:54 AM
Apr 2014

is republican't, you can bet an Elizabeth Warren agenda would be dead in the water.

Since 2010 and the republican't majority power in Congress, what liberal progressive legislation has passed? The one great triumph of the Obama Administration is passing the conservative health care plan? What is Bill Clinton's legacy, didn't get thrown out of office?

I want more for Elizabeth Warren.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
27. Put those goal post back where you found them!
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 11:58 AM
Apr 2014

So you can't name a Senator more influential than those Presidents. The "she can do more as a Senator" meme is designed to detract from her potential Presidential candidacy. Don't fall for it; don't propagate it.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
62. LBJ while a senator. That's how he knew how to get things done as POTUS.
Tue May 6, 2014, 09:35 AM
May 2014

Still, it ultimately defeated him. Not all presidents have the influence of the three you mentioned, certainly not BHO, despite his admirable skills. As a women, Warren would have the same sort of handicap. Becoming a very seasoned senator (she already has a great start) would make her a real force to be reckoned with as POTUS. Perhaps BHO could have done with a little more time in the senate.

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
64. Drivel. There's a reason POTUS is considered the most powerful position in the world.
Tue May 6, 2014, 09:43 AM
May 2014

If one chooses not to use that power, that doesn't mean the office doesn't still hold it.

malthaussen

(17,209 posts)
15. I remember how many times Christie denied he was running in 2012...
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 10:25 AM
Apr 2014

... and the GOP pundits still wouldn't believe it was true. Bet we get the same thing with Warren?

-- Mal

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
16. that was then.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 10:40 AM
Apr 2014

are people supposed to have memories?
some folks act like they are completely optional.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
31. Please don't insult Warren by comparing her stance to Christie's.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 12:17 PM
Apr 2014

Christie is a weasel who would throw his mother under the bus to get ahead politically. Warren is a straight shooter. If she keeps saying that she doesn't want to run for president, then I believe her. Unlike the blob who is my governor, I never believe anything he says.

malthaussen

(17,209 posts)
44. Good grief.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 06:02 PM
Apr 2014

My post was about neither Christy nor Warren, but about the reactions of others to their statements.

-- Mal

 

ballyhoo

(2,060 posts)
21. No, but among some there will be
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 11:20 AM
Apr 2014

a vector opened for non-interest. I don't pay much attention to approximate candidate's statements this far ahead of a presidential election, but, again, with this statement the vector will be officially opened. The other thing is this all rather conjecture for everyone. I speak for myself only, but I believe starting in early July, things will happen that will change everything. It has to do with Russia--Global Banking--and Domestic Terrorism. All three WORKING TOGETHER will contribute to the next rung down of "normal" living and political restructuring.

Sorry to bore you, cosmicone. I see things in this country I have never seen before.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
40. Thank you. It is called macabre humor.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 02:03 PM
Apr 2014

Some get it. Obviously, I don't expect, wish or anticipate anyone to commit suicide over that news.


IkeRepublican

(406 posts)
23. A bummer and a shame
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 11:38 AM
Apr 2014

But, let's be honest here.

Obama's a corporatist if there ever was one and we see how he gets nailed to the floorboards by the Repukes over not only petty things, but completely fabricated things.

Imagine what they'd do to Warren. They'd Loughner her or give her the poison at a dinner party with immeasurable delight.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
34. You said a mouthful.
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 12:25 PM
Apr 2014

If Obama, and the Clintons too, are called Marxists and Socialists by the Right; imagine how they would shred to pieces someone to the Left of them.

The reality on the ground is that 2014 will be a tough year for Democrats. The Republicans may gain more seats in the House and we may even lose the Senate (that's my greatest fear). If a Democrat gets elected in 2016, how much leverage will they really have with a Republican Congress?

Stellar

(5,644 posts)
26. Well..maybe she could be Hillary's Vice President...
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 11:58 AM
Apr 2014

..you know, to stick her feet in the water so to speak. As a female, I would love that!

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
42. Hillary will probably choose
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 02:08 PM
Apr 2014

someone like Mayor Julian Castro. He is articulate, Hispanic and from Texas which is becoming purple. His selection will give Hillary the inside track on winning FL, NM, CO, NV and perhaps AZ.

mikekohr

(2,312 posts)
52. While I am hoping for Warren I'm betting your pick will be our ticket in 2016
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 09:25 PM
Apr 2014

and I'll be very pleased and supportive.

brooklynite

(94,657 posts)
50. Tell me, has anyone in this thread actually lifted a finger to GET Warren to run?
Tue Apr 22, 2014, 08:25 PM
Apr 2014

Written her a letter? Sent an email? Stopped her at a public forum? Because all I continue to see is people dreaming and telling themselves that she'll change her mind. I hope that, when you wake up from the dream and Hillary decides to run while Elizabeth doesn't, you won't be complaining that "they" kept her from running.

Response to yurbud (Reply #63)

 

DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
76. It's Hillary's turn.
Tue May 6, 2014, 09:46 PM
May 2014

No matter who we may want. This is an Oligarchy, not a Democracy nor a Republic as we've been previously mislead to believe. Although, there are some concerns over how to address former President Bill Clinton in the presence of the future President Hillary Clinton. I favor First Fellow.

- Or something similar......

K&R

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
79. No, that's not the point.
Wed May 7, 2014, 02:23 AM
May 2014

"We", meaning the vast majority of Democrats, want her to run. Those Democrats who don't want her to run are in the minority.

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