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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 12:29 PM Apr 2014

Glenn Greenwald Is Coming To America

Source: TPM

TOM KLUDT – APRIL 10, 2014, 11:45 AM EDT

For the first time since his reporting on the National Security Agency's global surveillance programs made Edward Snowden a household name, Glenn Greenwald plans to return to the United States.

Greenwald, who lives in Rio de Janeiro, intends to head to New York City on Friday to accept the prestigious Polk Award for outstanding journalism. He will share the award with Laura Poitras, Barton Gellman and Ewen MacAskill, all journalists who have also reported on the Snowden leaks.

Greenwald told the Huffington Post he wants to attend the ceremony because “certain factions in the U.S. government have deliberately intensified the threatening climate for journalists.”

“It’s just the principle that I shouldn’t allow those tactics to stop me from returning to my own country,” he told HuffPost.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/glenn-greenwald-return-to-america

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Glenn Greenwald Is Coming To America (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2014 OP
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #1
Of course, Clapper is one of the PTB. nm rhett o rick Apr 2014 #4
Laura Poitras too, from Berlin Laughing Mirror Apr 2014 #2
I'd have thought Poitras and Greenwald are hoping to get hassled at customs Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #29
Here is an April 20, 2012 interview with filmaker Poitras Laughing Mirror Apr 2014 #50
Well, they got in without incident or fanfare, so its moot... Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #54
Ca Ching! Gotta sell that damn book. You go, GG! Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #3
Silly bullshit whatchamacallit Apr 2014 #8
He does have a book to hawk and movie rights to negotiate Blue_Tires Apr 2014 #26
And you guys have the nerve to assign "cult of personality" to others. Open your fuckin' eyes. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #27
Of course Obama's lucrative future book tours and lectures whatchamacallit Apr 2014 #31
When he sells government secrets to the highest bidder, get back to me. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #32
Maybe you'll respect Greenwald whatchamacallit Apr 2014 #39
There ain't enough $$$$ in drones for GG. If I see a pic of Obama flying a drone.... Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #41
lol. Greenwald kills brain cells with his idiotcy. Whisp Apr 2014 #43
Do you get your news from dailypaul.com? Cheerful Charlie Apr 2014 #37
Don't even know what that is whatchamacallit Apr 2014 #38
No, but welcome back! What kept you? Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #40
Thanks for your report on yourself Glenn. Oh the drama!!!1 tridim Apr 2014 #5
Do you think that the constant repetition of your hateful diatribe against Greenwald will ever rhett o rick Apr 2014 #33
I hope nothing happens but... Helen Borg Apr 2014 #6
And when he's completely ignored by leftynyc Apr 2014 #7
Here is one way debunkthis Apr 2014 #10
A perfect example of why this country is being devoured by the Right. Maedhros Apr 2014 #14
+1 zeemike Apr 2014 #19
Riiiight leftynyc Apr 2014 #47
I really only have your word on that. Maedhros Apr 2014 #51
LOL - what crap leftynyc Apr 2014 #53
people accepting prestigious awards are rarely ignored.. frylock Apr 2014 #23
Yawn leftynyc Apr 2014 #48
Laura Poitras was getting hassled at customs OnyxCollie Apr 2014 #34
He gets to share the award with Bildo O'Reilly too! Awesome! snooper2 Apr 2014 #9
He's a poopiehead!!! QC Apr 2014 #11
Why does Comrade Eddie hammer with his right hand? Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #13
I assume you are being sarcastic? Maedhros Apr 2014 #16
He's a Brazilian now...stay in your new country or SoapBox Apr 2014 #12
He's Brazilian now? Capt. Obvious Apr 2014 #15
The world needs a brazillion Greenwalds! GliderGuider Apr 2014 #18
No, Brazil just needs one Greenwald. Whisp Apr 2014 #44
love it or leave it, eh frylock Apr 2014 #21
Well earned Mr. Greenwald! debunkthis Apr 2014 #17
so he wants to see how Bradley/Chelsea Manning was treated first hand? yurbud Apr 2014 #20
There's a lot of negative comment in this thread about Greenwald Cheerful Charlie Apr 2014 #22
it's because he's a big meanie doodyhead to Obama frylock Apr 2014 #24
Because Obama is our leader and . . . Jack Rabbit Apr 2014 #25
Well if you focus on the person and not what he is talking about Rex Apr 2014 #28
Precisely. Maedhros Apr 2014 #52
For some real substantive critique of GG from "REAL" whistleblowers, see post #27. Tarheel_Dem Apr 2014 #30
For the ones in this thread? JoeyT Apr 2014 #35
I'd say all three: Whisp Apr 2014 #45
There have been several people here who claimed that Greenwald was too cowardly to come back. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2014 #36
+1 whatchamacallit Apr 2014 #49
oh my goodness, such excitement. Will there be a ticker tape parade? Whisp Apr 2014 #42
Let me guess, he's rolling out his own line of zirconium jewelry ucrdem Apr 2014 #46
That, or Snow Globes. Whisp Apr 2014 #55

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Laughing Mirror

(4,185 posts)
2. Laura Poitras too, from Berlin
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 01:09 PM
Apr 2014

Braving the harsh treatment she has endured dozens of times at Customs coming back into the U.S.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
29. I'd have thought Poitras and Greenwald are hoping to get hassled at customs
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 05:31 PM
Apr 2014

It would be a huge media spectacle and illustrate their point beautifully...

I wouldn't be surprised at all if they were carrying some go-ahead-I-dare-you-to-stop-and-search-me TSA bait just for this trip...

Laughing Mirror

(4,185 posts)
50. Here is an April 20, 2012 interview with filmaker Poitras
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 10:23 AM
Apr 2014

in which she discusses being detained some 40 times since 2006, since she began doing films on the U.S. post 9/11.

http://www.democracynow.org/2012/4/20/detained_in_the_us_filmmaker_laura

Moreoever, this sort of thing has happened even to Greenwald's husband as well as Snowden's lawyer:

Attorney for Edward Snowden Interrogated at U.K. Airport, Placed on "Inhibited Persons List":

http://www.democracynow.org/2014/2/18/attorney_for_edward_snowden_interrogated_at

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
54. Well, they got in without incident or fanfare, so its moot...
Sat Apr 12, 2014, 05:01 PM
Apr 2014

and all the folks who had been predicting instant arrest look like morons....

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
26. He does have a book to hawk and movie rights to negotiate
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 04:59 PM
Apr 2014

and his publisher is in New York, iirc...

So the trip is a twofer...What's so hard to believe about that?

Tarheel_Dem

(31,240 posts)
27. And you guys have the nerve to assign "cult of personality" to others. Open your fuckin' eyes.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 05:07 PM
Apr 2014
"Leaking to the Highest Bidder".

"Glenn Greenwald, NSA Documents & Checkbook Journalism (Boiling Frogs Post-Sibel Edmonds)"

Tarheel_Dem

(31,240 posts)
41. There ain't enough $$$$ in drones for GG. If I see a pic of Obama flying a drone....
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 11:35 PM
Apr 2014

then I'll begin to question, until then....?

tridim

(45,358 posts)
5. Thanks for your report on yourself Glenn. Oh the drama!!!1
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 01:24 PM
Apr 2014

I bet he turns the ego-cameras off when he has lunch with the Pauls.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
33. Do you think that the constant repetition of your hateful diatribe against Greenwald will ever
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 05:57 PM
Apr 2014

convince anyone. You seem to have a very protective attitude toward Gen Clapper and the NSA. Care to explain?

Helen Borg

(3,963 posts)
6. I hope nothing happens but...
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 01:30 PM
Apr 2014

But I'm worried they may have something bogus on him that they will use to detain him (Poitras too). These people are vicious and there is no oversight.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
7. And when he's completely ignored by
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 02:24 PM
Apr 2014

everyone but his sycophants, how is he going to get into the news?

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
14. A perfect example of why this country is being devoured by the Right.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 03:21 PM
Apr 2014

When self-described "lefty's" pick up the propaganda refrain sung by the national security state and join in the prescribed Two Minute Hate against journalists who dare reveal the misdeeds of the powerful.

"lefty". Hah.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
47. Riiiight
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 07:35 AM
Apr 2014

Because the value of someone who has fought battles for the left for over 50 years comes down to whether I want to worship at the feet of a narcissist. Good thing I couldn't possibly care less what his sycophants think.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
51. I really only have your word on that.
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 11:59 AM
Apr 2014

I can't judge your posts based upon claims of longstanding service to the Left, because that is a claim that some random guy on the Internet can't prove.

I can judge your posts on their content, which essentially comprise NSA talking points on how to deflect and transform criticism of the program into criticism of Snowden.

/ignore list.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
53. LOL - what crap
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 12:07 PM
Apr 2014

Now you want to make this about Snowden? And you wonder why I can't take you seriously. Feel free to ignore me - it's obviously a chore to keep yourself on topic.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
23. people accepting prestigious awards are rarely ignored..
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 04:34 PM
Apr 2014

but do continue to let the hate flow through you.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
48. Yawn
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 07:36 AM
Apr 2014

Hate is a very strong emotion. One I wouldn't waste on this clown. If you don't think he's hoping some feds swoop down to arrest or question him so he can whine about what a victim he is, you're delusional.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
34. Laura Poitras was getting hassled at customs
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 06:06 PM
Apr 2014

long before it was cool to hate her.

Long Before Helping Expose NSA Spying, Journalist Laura Poitras Faced Harassment from U.S. Agents
http://www.democracynow.org/2013/6/17/long_before_helping_expose_nsa_spying

LAURA POITRAS: I’ve been stopped at the border since 2006, since I started working on a series of films looking at U.S. post-9/11. And so, I’ve been—I’ve actually lost count of how many times I’ve been detained at the border, but it’s, I think, around 40 times. And—

~snip~

LAURA POITRAS: Yeah. So I was met by two agents at Newark. One of them is Agent Wassum. And I—when they met me, I took out my pen and paper to note their names and the time and—because I’ve always taken notes, so I have a record of the questions that I’m asked and how long I’m detained for, what’s the focus of the interrogation, what they are doing to me. And on this occasion, I took out my pen, and I was ordered to put away my pen. And I didn’t, and I continued to take notes. And I was ordered again to put away the pen, and I didn’t. And then he threatened to handcuff me for not putting away my pen. And at that point, I put away my pen and then walked to Immigration and took out my pen again to take notes, was ordered again to put away my pen, and then was taken into secondary screening. And I asked to speak to a supervisor, explained I was a journalist, explained that legal counsel has told me that I should be taking notes of my detention and interrogation. And then I was told that I couldn’t take notes, that I was free to take notes after I was finished being questioned. And then—

JUAN GONZÁLEZ: Under the theory that what? The pen was a weapon?

LAURA POITRAS: Oh, yeah, that’s right. They said that my pen was a dangerous weapon. So that’s what—that’s Agent Wassum who said that, that my pen was a threat to them. And, you know, I mean, in terms of the context, you have to understand that I’m surrounded by border agents who are all carrying guns, and I’m taking out, you know, a pen that they find threatening. And so, this was, you know, profoundly upsetting. And then I was taken into—I was taken directly into an interrogation room and questioned. I took out my pen again. I was ordered by another agent to put it away. And this went on for quite some time. And I was told during this interrogation—I mean, I’m always asserting my rights as a journalist to not reveal my work, my sources.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
16. I assume you are being sarcastic?
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 03:26 PM
Apr 2014

Snowden is constantly criticized for his Libertarian stance, yet you try and paint him as a Soviet-era Communist? Is that because he went to Russia?

(Pssst! The Soviet Union disintegrated in 1991 - that's 23 years ago. It was replaced by a gangster-capitalist regime that is sort of the opposite of communism.)

 

debunkthis

(99 posts)
17. Well earned Mr. Greenwald!
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 03:31 PM
Apr 2014

Glenn's decision to accept the Polk Award in person, despite the risks, is yet another example of his principals, courage, and determination.

 

Cheerful Charlie

(46 posts)
22. There's a lot of negative comment in this thread about Greenwald
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 04:34 PM
Apr 2014

I'm wondering why. Is it because you think he has libertarian tendencies, or because he seems to you to be just an opportunist who is professionally and financially on-the-make, or because you think he's violating US law or harming US interests or what?

This is just a straight question.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
25. Because Obama is our leader and . . .
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 04:46 PM
Apr 2014

Last edited Fri Apr 11, 2014, 01:22 AM - Edit history (1)

. . . Il Duce ha siempre regione!

It sounds better in the original Italian, don't you think?

But they will be here to remind us that Obama is always right, especially when he's not.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
28. Well if you focus on the person and not what he is talking about
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 05:16 PM
Apr 2014

you can fool people into thinking it is about the person.

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
52. Precisely.
Fri Apr 11, 2014, 12:02 PM
Apr 2014

It gets people arguing about Snowden's and Greenwald's motives, rather than discussing the NSA's crimes.

It's a tactic.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,240 posts)
30. For some real substantive critique of GG from "REAL" whistleblowers, see post #27.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 05:36 PM
Apr 2014

There are folks who do things for the good of mankind, and then there are the Glenn Greenbacks, er I mean, Greenwald.

JoeyT

(6,785 posts)
35. For the ones in this thread?
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 06:09 PM
Apr 2014

It's largely about waging war on anyone that embarrasses or criticizes Obama. Which is fine. I'm sure I've got some heroes somewhere I've got huge blind spots about too. Pretty much everyone does.

There are a handful of what appear to be genuine nationalists floating around, but I don't see any of them in this thread yet.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
36. There have been several people here who claimed that Greenwald was too cowardly to come back.
Thu Apr 10, 2014, 07:28 PM
Apr 2014

But now? Crickets.

There have also been several people (largely from the same pool) who have made the claim that Snowden should have made official complaints up his chain of command rather than absconding with the documents and releasing them. Now Snowden has said that he did make complaints using the proper channels, and he's challenged the NSA to officially deny this. So of course this group of people now claims Snowden is lying, among other things they've said in an attempt to discredit Snowden's latest utterance.

I detest, detest, detest liars and propagandists. I like honest Republicans (rare though they may be) better than I like lying Democrats, and I'm saying this despite knowing that some foaming-at-the-mouth authoritarian type will use the statement to try to make me into some sort of secret Republican. But those types are exactly the sort of worthless liars I'm referring to. This is a small but vocal group that I'm referring to. They can be found in every Snowden/Greenwald thread. There is NO demostrable evidence that Snowden has lied about anything to date. There's PLENTY of demonstrable evidence that some of our very own have lied and continue to lie right through their teeth in order to make you believe things they know not to be true, and in order to make you doubt some things that you do hold to be true. I'll never believe these people again without checking. If they tell me the sky is blue, I'm going to glance outside first to confirm.

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