Russians Withheld Information on Boston Bombing Suspect, Report Finds
Source: NYTimes
BREAKING NEWS Wednesday, April 9, 2014 8:32 PM EDT
Russians Withheld Information on Boston Bombing Suspect, Report Finds
The Russian government withheld from the F.B.I. significant information that it had about one of the Boston marathon bombing suspects two years before the attack, according to an inspector generals review of how federal agencies could have thwarted the bombing.
After an initial investigation by F.B.I. agents in Boston, the Russians rebuffed several requests for additional information that they had about Tamerlan Tsarnaev.
The new inspector generals report found that it was only after the bombing occurred last April that the Russians shared with the F.B.I. the additional intelligence, including information from a telephone conversation the Russian authorities had intercepted between Mr. Tsarnaev and his mother in which they discussed Islamic jihad.
Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/10/us/russia-withheld-details-on-tamerlan-tsarnaev-us-report-says.html?emc=edit_na_20140409
KoKo
(84,711 posts)show something quite different. The older brother was on FBI's Watch List before the bombing do to Russian Intel...and there's much info verifying this. I don't have time to look it up but it was all over DU that Russia Warned FBI and FBI looked into it...but then somehow his name got spelled wrong when he went went back to get radicalized and our TSA didn't pick him up. (sorry...the info is out there and verified through the follow up and even Boston Globe reported all of this along with The Atlantic).
okaawhatever
(9,462 posts)KoKo
(84,711 posts)MattSh
(3,714 posts)This is either passing the buck or more Russia bashing, either which is despicable.
From the NY Times comments:
The FBI was given plenty of information that should have caused them to more fully investigate Tsarnaev, and their failure to do a better job with all the information that they were given by the Russians two years earlier cannot be justified by now blaming the Russians for not having given them even more information. After all the Russian's weren't responsible for doing the FBI's job for them. This claim by the FBI looks like the familiar buck passing of a bureaucracy when it is exposed as having failed to do the job if was charged with doing.
undiegrinder
(79 posts)In fact, the conflicting reports finally compelled me to do some Googling. Among the results were a few sites many will likely dismiss as "tin foil hat" conspiracy theorists but which I found fascinating for their attention to and documentation of so MANY contradictory details.
F'rinstance ... it wasn't until a month after the bombing that now-Former Assistant FBI Director John Miller publicly announced Dzhokhar Tsarnaev had written a "confession" during the hours he spent hiding in a powerboat drydocked in its owner's back yard ... (in the dark) ...
During his statement on May 16th, Miller announced, "Tsarnaev had no paper, but he did have a pen," and with it, Miller claimed, the suspect had written a confession on the inside of the boat. (When questions subsequently arose as to what kind of pen could write on the boat's fiberglass structure, the pen became a "marker."
Though it seems a bit odd that a suspect would both hide for hours from police AND pen a confession (in the dark), to date authorities have released NO pictures or full text of what they claim Tsarnaev wrote.
http://thebostonmarathonbombings.weebly.com/dzhokhars-note-in-the-boat-a-not-so-water-tight-confession.html
Then there are the different and conflicting versions of MIT campus police officer Sean Collier's shooting:
http://thebostonmarathonbombings.weebly.com/collier-case-could-collapse-due-to-conflicting-evidence.html
But to me, the real head-scratcher is the guy who was supposedly carjacked by the Tsarnaev brothers. Still known publicly only by his pseudonym ("Danny" , he's told different versions of his story, some of which are contradicted by physical evidence like recorded police scanner conversations.
http://whowhatwhy.com/2014/03/13/something-dead-wrong-investigating-mysterious-central-character-danny-part-2-2/
To be clear: I'm not claiming any of the above as "conclusive proof" of some dark government conspiracy -- people make mistakes and reports aren't always accurate.
It DOES, however, strike me as troubling that such a high-profile terrorism case seems so riddled with conflicting information.
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)alp227
(32,051 posts)dballance
(5,756 posts)With all the anti-Russian sentiment right now, what better time to blame the Russians.
Pardon my cynicism.
pscot
(21,024 posts)Now maybe you'll believe us.
Purveyor
(29,876 posts)MOSCOW, March 27 (RIA Novosti) - A new report by the US Congress details the failures of cooperation between intelligence agencies, highlighting early warnings by Russia about alleged Boston marathon bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev.
"The Russian government expressed concerns that he had become radicalized and that he might return to Russia and join extremist groups there," the bipartisan report, published Thursday, says.
The document, compiled by the House Committee on Homeland Security, reveals Russian intelligence services warned the FBI in 2011 about Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of the two Chechen brothers accused of carrying out last year's Boston Marathon bombings.
The US scrapped a brief investigation into Tsarnaev after concluding he had no links to terrorism.
more...
http://en.ria.ru/world/20140327/188813205/Russia-Warned-US-About-Boston-Bomber--Congress.html
jakeXT
(10,575 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)That would involve NSA wiretaps and FISA warrants, all of which are spying and none of that is good. The NSA had no right to listen to Tamerlan's private conversations!
elias49
(4,259 posts)don't talk to each other. Witness August and September 2001. We expect more cooperation from Russia? Get real.
JoeyT
(6,785 posts)this would be the same New York Times that claimed Saddam had yellowcake uranium, weapons of mass destruction, and was linked to 9/11.