Former CIA director: Sen. Feinstein is too ‘emotional’ to investigate torture
Source: Raw Story
Former NSA and CIA Director Michael Hayden on Sunday said that he had not seen the Senates report on the CIAs use of torture, but he was sure that it could not be objective because Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA) was too emotional.
In an interview on Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace pointed out that the Senate Intelligence Committee report had found that the CIA had misled Congress both about the number of detainees that were tortured, and about the effectiveness of the so-called enhanced interrogation program.
Yeah, Hayden replied dismissively, noting that a Washington Post columnist had reported that Sen. Feinstein wanted a report so scathing that it would ensure that an un-American, brutal program of detention and interrogation would never again be considered or permitted.
That motivation for the report may show deep emotional feeling on the part of the senator, Hayden opined. But I dont think it leads you to an objective report.
Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/04/06/former-cia-director-sen-feinstein-is-too-emotional-to-investigate-torture/
OMG ... Heads are gonna roll ...
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)emotional messes...
what is this guy's problem...???
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)The stakes couldn't be higher.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)AAO
(3,300 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Just had some ahole talking about how an athlete's wife should have had a C-section to not interfere with the game being played and him being off work for the birth. Hitting women, workers and how knows how may targets ar the same time.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)24601
(3,962 posts)to investigate this should be. They also should recognize her/his emotion and compensate to ensure objectivity.
What I judge is unfortunate is that the Senate report split on partisan lines, therefore challenging its credibility. The President can solve this by declassifying the CIA records. The fact that he hasn't makes me suspicious.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)On the contrary, Mr. Hayden, Senator Feinstein is just the right person for this investigation.
rock
(13,218 posts)God is he crass (don't bother to answer, I know the answer).
ashling
(25,771 posts)Senator Feinstein is not black
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Brigid
(17,621 posts)Steve Martin in "The Jerk."
OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)I was often dismissed with the "passionate" pejorative by my poli-sci professors.
I find it particularly annoying now since everything I talked about turned out to be true.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Trillo
(9,154 posts)Response to MindMover (Original post)
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24601
(3,962 posts)US Citizen? In your view, would that merit more or less punishment than a President who authorized water boarding?
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24601
(3,962 posts)globe with the exception of the US? Anwar al-Awlaki was droned in Yemen. I'm not really in favor of impeaching & convicting President Obama and trying him for murder. Are you?
Situational ethics are slippery.
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24601
(3,962 posts)strike, especially in a nuclear world? By that logic if we had actually decoded the Japanese comms in time, routed their carriers and prevented the attack on Pearl Harbor it would have been a crime? I don't agree at all.
Double that for non-state actors.
And it's unconstitutional to try a member of Congress for anything on the floor - it's commonly referred to the speech and debate clause. (Article I, Section 6) The courts have even extended this to their offices.
BeyondGeography
(39,377 posts)His emotions are getting the better of him.
elleng
(131,042 posts)He's feeling the consequences of his behavior.
Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)TwilightGardener
(46,416 posts)But he's "Former" director Hayden, so his head isn't going to roll.
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noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)who doesn't experience normal human emotions. there are too many of them in washington.
LeftishBrit
(41,208 posts)DeadLetterOffice
(1,352 posts)Aside from which -- hello? Feinstein "emotional?" Not hardly.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)Obscenely wealthy, in bed with the Pentagon, unconcerned with the privacy rights of Americans, all of that. But emotional is an adjective I would never use to describe her.
He's just trying to use the familiar catchphrases used to denigrate women. I didn't see the show but I bet he had a sick little smile going when he said that.
Asshole and totally incorrect besides.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Tom Ripley
(4,945 posts)aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)if it's an honest report regarding the facts of torture, adults who read it can decide for themselves if it's un-American or brutal. Whether the committee produces a report that reads like an uncaring automaton prepared it or someone with a heart, it's the facts that count. But maybe this guy doesn't want honesty or facts.
warrant46
(2,205 posts)These is no Fire left in that empty suit
When her term is up she will be 87
She is going for the record of Strom Thurmond ( 100 years Old )
plantwomyn
(876 posts)The fact is that Feinstein has been on the Intelligence Committee throughout all of the torture and NSA violations. In short she has known all along and couldn't say a word about it. If she was "emotional" she would have called them out in 2002 or 2003. I know quite a few octogenarians that I would put against just about any young'un in a debate. I wouldn't give the vast majority of the Senators in office today a chance against her.
Stuart G
(38,439 posts)These assholes, like Cheney and Hayden...never stop, never will
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Hayden sounds like a cold-hearted sadist. Jeffrey Dahmer, anyone?
Reading stories of people undergoing torture, suffering from torture would make me very emotional too. It would make a normal person with a normal amount of empathy emotional.
Hayden needs to look at himself.
On the other hand, Feinstein could find better ways to express herself. Some of the other members of the committee have.
Also, from an interview I saw that featured Cheney, it sounds like he is going to rely on an advice of counsel defense if indicted or even challenged.
But he may have to prove that he relied on the advice of counsel in good faith. What a travesty of justice.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)People are posting here about them, giving them free publicity.
TNNurse
(6,929 posts)That someone in the Senate and the House showed some real human emotion about the horrible things that are going on.
The heartless bastards have been running things for too long.
onecaliberal
(32,880 posts)Like Hayden
niyad
(113,505 posts)onecaliberal
(32,880 posts)I've been a lurker for years.
AAO
(3,300 posts)AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)caraher
(6,279 posts)There are no... polite... words...
vanlassie
(5,681 posts)he confused her being fucking pissed off with being emotional.
Augiedog
(2,548 posts)Said the sociopath to to himself....cause who else is listening...oh that's right,...he is talking to the hand.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)barbtries
(28,809 posts)my jaw can still drop.
oh yeah, and fuck that pig.
Hekate
(90,768 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)Then again, Boehner only gets emotional at trivial issues. I am sure torture of others doesn't bother him a bit.
DallasNE
(7,403 posts)I always though Hayden had an attitude problem and this is just icing on that cake.
TygrBright
(20,763 posts)niyad
(113,505 posts)but that would require possession of something you do not have.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)Last edited Sun Apr 6, 2014, 10:09 PM - Edit history (1)
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)I'm still haunted by the way that he steadfastly (and repeatedly) refused to admit that the Fourth Amendment contains the phrase "probable cause" and even went so far as to brag about the NSA's knowledge of the Constitution. Talk about chutzpah.
This latest incident just adds fuel to the fire.
I never thought I'd be in a position where I viewed Feinstein as the Good Guy.
But when you compare her to a sociopath, she seems strangely sympathetic.
truth2power
(8,219 posts)My apologies to all animals of the porcine variety.
sakabatou
(42,168 posts)Jack Rabbit
(45,984 posts)So instead he held a position of trust in Bush Junta.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Congress was lied to. Isn't that a crime?
This is going to stir up a hornet's nest before it's all over. Is the Hague booked up?
freebrew
(1,917 posts)Sen. Feinstein wanted a report so scathing that it would ensure that an un-American, brutal program of detention and interrogation would never again be considered or permitted.
He's advocating un-American values? No wonder he's on Fucked news...fits right in(.)
The Stranger
(11,297 posts)toby jo
(1,269 posts)others.
Whereas men apply their emotional intelligence to pain being inflicted upon themselves - war, rape,
murder, abuse of all types.
Hayden : torture itself is hardcore male emotion run amuck.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)It was a gruesome scene in SF City Hall, but she was the one who dealt with it with strength. I'm no DiFi fan now, in terms of most of her politics/policies, but "emotional" is a "slur" that doesn't fit her.
Plus this guy is a sexist asshole, so there's that.