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uhnope

(6,419 posts)
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 03:50 PM Mar 2014

Tens Of Thousands Sign White House Petition For Alaska To Secede And Rejoin Russia

Last edited Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:31 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: CBS

WASHINGTON (CBS DC) – A new White House petition has been launched calling for the state of Alaska to secede from the U.S. and rejoin Russia. The petition – called “Alaska Back to Russia” — has nearly 30,000 signatures after being created March 21 by S.V. of Anchorage.

The petitioner does not explain or provide any reason why Alaska should rejoin Russia, but just states: “Vote for secession of Alaska from the United States and joining Russia.”

The petition, which is strangely worded, describes how Alaska was settled and populated by native Russians.

“First visited Alaska August 21, 1732, members of the team boat “St. Gabriel »under the surveyor Gvozdev and assistant navigator I. Fedorov during the expedition Shestakov and DI Pavlutski 1729-1735 years,” the petition states.

Read more: http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/03/27/tens-of-thousands-sign-white-house-petition-for-alaska-to-secede-and-rejoin-russia/



"strangely worded" = broken English direct from Russian, evidently
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Tens Of Thousands Sign White House Petition For Alaska To Secede And Rejoin Russia (Original Post) uhnope Mar 2014 OP
Wow. Must SUCK to be a TRAITOR! Cooley Hurd Mar 2014 #1
Now now, you don't know who is signing it. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #31
Todd Palin, signatory. ;-) Cooley Hurd Mar 2014 #32
oh Rick Perry PatrynXX Mar 2014 #73
I live here and have NEVER heard anyone say we need to go back to roguevalley Mar 2014 #78
What are they calling it? Salviati Mar 2014 #2
DUzy!!! Scuba Mar 2014 #22
You Win, but I guess no one told them Heather MC Mar 2014 #56
Nailed it. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #87
Under one condition: They have to take Sarah Palin LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #3
As I recall Todd Palin was a member of a secessionist Party prior to the McGramps Bluenorthwest Mar 2014 #5
Well, they'll have to take him too nt LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #6
It was called the Alaska Independence Party jmowreader Mar 2014 #14
Does what Sarah Palin speaks count as English? MNBrewer Mar 2014 #40
No, that's Gibberish. Jackpine Radical Mar 2014 #66
It's closer to English than to Russian, anyway jmowreader Mar 2014 #74
^This! 1000+! 2banon Mar 2014 #28
Yes, she must be the first to go. I'll pay her fare SummerSnow Mar 2014 #60
GMTA! lastlib Mar 2014 #68
Red state ASS HOLES. penndragon69 Mar 2014 #4
If they don't want to be part of the team let 'em go! nt Jake Stern Mar 2014 #7
NO ONE HERE IS PART OF THIS! Truly. No Alaskan I ever heard spoke about any roguevalley Mar 2014 #80
Todd Palin? chuckstevens Mar 2014 #8
The Alaskan Independence Party that Todd supported certianly does not want to join Russia Reter Mar 2014 #42
Oh, Okay, that's much better then jberryhill Mar 2014 #51
Ten bucks says maybe ten of those are Alaskans Scootaloo Mar 2014 #9
Hey, Sarah, How's that secession-changy thing workin out for ya? FailureToCommunicate Mar 2014 #10
I have no problems with this adieu Mar 2014 #11
Bullshit! AllTooEasy Mar 2014 #18
I'm ok with Georgia going 'back' to England n2doc Mar 2014 #21
Unfortunately, demilib Mar 2014 #25
Better him than Crooked Deal n2doc Mar 2014 #37
LOL nt SunSeeker Mar 2014 #26
You are mistaken StoneCarver Mar 2014 #48
Thank you! bravenak Mar 2014 #53
We are a red state. bravenak Mar 2014 #52
We are a huge mineral and food resource for this country. Consider this, lower forty eight roguevalley Mar 2014 #81
I have lived in Anchorage for 22 years and i love it. bravenak Mar 2014 #85
I have lived here for 40. we are a blue state bought out roguevalley Mar 2014 #95
Let's start a petition to buy anyone a one-way ticket to the Russian destination of choice NBachers Mar 2014 #12
No, no, that's not necessary jmowreader Mar 2014 #20
Why plane? They can see Russia from their houses! n/t cosmicone Mar 2014 #63
They can go by rowboat, canoe or sailboat...no plane. Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #89
Or... they can wait for the next ice age and walk across the frozen sea n/t cosmicone Mar 2014 #90
That would be a good solution but it takes too long since we're headed in the opposite direction. Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #91
Not according to teabaggers hahaha n/t cosmicone Mar 2014 #93
Hell no! nt snappyturtle Mar 2014 #13
Putin/Palin in2018!!! NT Jerry442 Mar 2014 #15
I bet this petition is a gag AllTooEasy Mar 2014 #16
You only need 50 signatures to get a petition up on the White House's red dog 1 Mar 2014 #58
Then we can definitely get those many signatures to exile Palin SummerSnow Mar 2014 #62
I'll sign that petition! red dog 1 Mar 2014 #98
"strangely worded" indeed. Broken English direct from Russian uhnope Mar 2014 #17
Maybe the vast majority of the signers are from the justhanginon Mar 2014 #19
I just assumed that's what it was. DeadLetterOffice Mar 2014 #65
Jeez, teabaggers will sign anything. louis-t Mar 2014 #23
Maybe I can get one of them christx30 Mar 2014 #24
H2O? MiniMe Mar 2014 #71
Yes christx30 Mar 2014 #72
Do you REALLY think that's who Guaguacoa Mar 2014 #69
I would have a long talk defacto7 Mar 2014 #27
Something overlooked. zeemike Mar 2014 #36
Lovely memories in the Kenai Peninsula. 2banon Mar 2014 #41
I live on the peninsula. Come back. :D We would be glad to have you. :D roguevalley Mar 2014 #82
.... 2banon Mar 2014 #83
............... trusty elf Mar 2014 #29
Oops! We're dumbfucks. We can't even manage arranging 6 signs. mnhtnbb Mar 2014 #47
Great post! red dog 1 Mar 2014 #50
SEXY? They not only misspelled it, they mispronounced it. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #86
Can Texas go too? ebbie15644 Mar 2014 #30
FReepers love Putin Faygo Kid Mar 2014 #33
Yes, they found their ticket for 2016: freshwest Mar 2014 #88
Another "Dumbest Thing Ever" SoapBox Mar 2014 #34
I predict this will be every bit as effective as the petition to build a Death Star. Jgarrick Mar 2014 #35
Aka - The Teapartymobile... n/t jtuck004 Mar 2014 #39
lol - fine, we'll take our cruise ships and go home, but Russia has to keep the Palins nt. pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #38
So now it's time for christx30 Mar 2014 #43
I thought this was from the Onion.. 2banon Mar 2014 #44
Damn! If they take Sarah Palin and we never hear from her again... mnhtnbb Mar 2014 #45
Indexed for inflation since 1867, the cost to be paid to the US Government for Alaska would be MNBrewer Mar 2014 #46
Be careful what you wish for Teabaggers! Otherwise get ready to be told... Crowman1979 Mar 2014 #49
I doubt seriously it's teabaggers signing it, most likely Guaguacoa Mar 2014 #70
Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" Award rocktivity Mar 2014 #54
They need a 100 thousands for White House to review their petition. LisaL Mar 2014 #55
It Will Be No Deal Wolf Frankula Mar 2014 #57
But . . . but Mr. Putin! Brigid Mar 2014 #64
K&R...Thanks for posting. red dog 1 Mar 2014 #59
So Calfornia had a Russian fort 2hrs north of San Francisco... bayareaboy Mar 2014 #61
I refuse to believe this unless there is a corresponding davidpdx Mar 2014 #67
So a vote in Alaska would be to secede and join Russia but a vote in Crimea is annexation? Fred Sanders Mar 2014 #75
Well, that's just stupid. Pterodactyl Mar 2014 #76
30,000 is hardly tens of thousands........... Dyedinthewoolliberal Mar 2014 #77
I am sure we can come up with a dollar amount ManiacJoe Mar 2014 #79
I remember when the CONservatives hated Communism. Now, they LOVE Communism. And Daddy Putin, too! blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #84
The Indians used to own NYC...should we give that back to them. Auntie Bush Mar 2014 #92
Only if Palin stays in Alaska. marble falls Mar 2014 #94
With more frequency there are OP's where one is sure to find a link to The Onion. Jefferson23 Mar 2014 #96
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2014 #97

Erich Bloodaxe BSN

(14,733 posts)
31. Now now, you don't know who is signing it.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:55 PM
Mar 2014

It might be a petition started and largely signed by people outside of Alaska

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
78. I live here and have NEVER heard anyone say we need to go back to
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:47 PM
Mar 2014

Russia. And there were native people here when the Russians came. This is some punk in Russia having a go at restoring their empire. If Russia ever decided to come here and take this place back, they better bring three body bags for every soldier. There are guns having guns up here.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
80. NO ONE HERE IS PART OF THIS! Truly. No Alaskan I ever heard spoke about any
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 11:50 PM
Mar 2014

form of secession and never to Russia. I have lived here for 40 years. Never once.

We leave secession to Texas and the other trogs who talk about it. Truly, I have never once heard it. in normal people conversation. (Except from Joe and the independence party years ago.

 

chuckstevens

(1,201 posts)
8. Todd Palin?
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:09 PM
Mar 2014

Remember folks: In right-wing world, it was just fine for Sarah Palin to say that Barack Obama "paled around with terrorists" (Bill Ayres), yet failed to mention that in 1968 when Ayres was protesting Vietnam, Barack Obama was an 8 year old boy living 1000's of miles away. Yet this racist, vile, piece of shit, phony Christian husband's Todd was once a member of the Alaskan Secessionist Party.

If this group were to secede, they have to take the all Palins with them!

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
9. Ten bucks says maybe ten of those are Alaskans
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:12 PM
Mar 2014

I lived in Alaska. If Alaska breaks off, Alaska's going to be Alaska. MAYBE seek to join Canada. Russia my ass.

 

adieu

(1,009 posts)
11. I have no problems with this
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:13 PM
Mar 2014

I do wonder, however, what Canada might want to say about it. If there's any body of land that should take Alaska, it would be Canada, as Alaska is contiguous with Canada.

AllTooEasy

(1,260 posts)
18. Bullshit!
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:22 PM
Mar 2014

Alaska is a donor state. It gives the federal gov't more money than it takes in. I say we give taker, red states like the entire south back to England/France/etc.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
21. I'm ok with Georgia going 'back' to England
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:30 PM
Mar 2014

At least I'd get health care, and guns would be outlawed.

 

StoneCarver

(249 posts)
48. You are mistaken
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 06:02 PM
Mar 2014

Sorry, But I couldn't let this pass. Alaska is NOT a donor state, -but a taker state. They get back almost $2 for every dollar they send to Washington.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2011/11/states-federal-taxes-spending-charts-maps
States receiving the most federal funding per tax dollar paid:
1. New Mexico: $2.63
2. West Virginia: $2.57
3. Mississippi: $2.47
4. District of Colombia: $2.41
5. Hawaii: $2.38
6. Alabama: $2.03
7. Alaska: $1.93
8. Montana: $1.92
9. South Carolina: $1.92
10. Maine: $1.78

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
81. We are a huge mineral and food resource for this country. Consider this, lower forty eight
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 12:07 AM
Mar 2014

before you bust your ass kicking us around.

Here is what the average is for Barrow, the northern most city in north america:

Cost of living (National average is 100%): cost of living: 120%, utilities: 229% and groceries: 139%. It can cost up to $2400 dollars A MONTH to heat a house in the bush.

Most of the towns and cities in Alaska including the state capital, Juneau are not accessible by road. You take boats, planes to get there and you have to ship everything in that you need. Many is the Alaskan who comes to the city once a year to buy an entire years worth of food and supplies, then ship it home on barges or planes. The cost of shipping is exorbitant.

Housing is everything from mansions to shacks. We have a space rocket installation in Kodiak and stone age villages all over the place with tough smart people living a life style that their ancestors taught them with a resilience that you wouldn't be able to emulate more than a day or two. There is a large number of bush villages that don't have running water or sewers. You take your shit bucket down to the lagoon everyday and pour it in. TB and hepatitis are epidemic up here.

It can cost 10$ a gallon for gas in the bush, as much for milk and other food. Stores ship in their goods and it can cost an arm and a leg to eat. Food isn't fresh in the winter which can go on forever. given a good wind chill, it can go to -180 up north. My dad when he worked driving pipe to Prudhoe was forced to wait out a storm with those temps.

You have roads and transportation. People up here actually use sleds (snow machines) and dog sleds to get around in some places. You can go nuts from the isolation and manmy do.

Lots of people subsist, gathering food during the good months to last through the bad.

What you take for granted in your lower 48 life we are still trying to build here. I doubt that you would put up with half the shit we do because our infrastructure is still either space age or stone age depending where you live.

We pay taxes and give lots of stuff to the US. We are tough and resilient. Its easy to knock us but try and live without us. You would be surprised how much of your life out there depends on the efforts of people here.

The Palins are a joke here. I love this place. We give back more than we get and we make do with stuff that you wouldn't tolerate. Alaska is a good place.

 

bravenak

(34,648 posts)
85. I have lived in Anchorage for 22 years and i love it.
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 05:51 AM
Mar 2014

But we are a red state and we get more $ in from the fed than we pay out. That is my point.
I still live here. Thats why i said WE are a red state.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
95. I have lived here for 40. we are a blue state bought out
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 03:09 PM
Mar 2014

by red oil money. I remember when we were blue. Money and oil did their usual deeds.

NBachers

(17,120 posts)
12. Let's start a petition to buy anyone a one-way ticket to the Russian destination of choice
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:14 PM
Mar 2014

You wanna go? We'll pay your way on Malaysia Airlines, or you can steam over on the White Star Line. Sign the paper on the way out, and don't come back ever again.

Welcome Home!

jmowreader

(50,560 posts)
20. No, no, that's not necessary
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:23 PM
Mar 2014

There's a whole fleet of salmon boats up there that are more than capable of crossing the Bering Strait.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
89. They can go by rowboat, canoe or sailboat...no plane.
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 11:29 AM
Mar 2014

Their relatives got here by boat so why not leave by the same method?

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
91. That would be a good solution but it takes too long since we're headed in the opposite direction.
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 01:35 PM
Mar 2014

However it would be a good method to keep the Polar Bears from starving.

red dog 1

(27,820 posts)
58. You only need 50 signatures to get a petition up on the White House's
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 06:50 PM
Mar 2014

"We The People" (petition place)..and then you need to get 100,000 signatures within 30 days to even get a response from the White House.

red dog 1

(27,820 posts)
98. I'll sign that petition!
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 07:04 PM
Mar 2014

Let's start one (No joke)

We can't let the tea baggers have all the fun, can we?

justhanginon

(3,290 posts)
19. Maybe the vast majority of the signers are from the
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:23 PM
Mar 2014

lower fortyeight states just trying to get rid of the Palin family any way they can.
Like a variation on the old Henny Youngman joke, "take my state please".

DeadLetterOffice

(1,352 posts)
65. I just assumed that's what it was.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:15 PM
Mar 2014

"Here, Putey-poot, you wanna annex something? Then take Alaska, PLEASE."

christx30

(6,241 posts)
72. Yes
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:54 PM
Mar 2014

in the early days of the Internet, there was a joke email going around telling about the dangers of dihydrogen monoxide. Dumb people would fall for it. I figured the people that want to keep government out of their Medicare would fall for it.

Guaguacoa

(271 posts)
69. Do you REALLY think that's who
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:46 PM
Mar 2014

is signing for a red state to leave? I doubt it very seriously. They would be signing for CA to leave.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
27. I would have a long talk
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:48 PM
Mar 2014

with Mr. Seward if I were them. We bought it fair and square for 2 cents an acre.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
36. Something overlooked.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 05:02 PM
Mar 2014

And it was purchased by the US government with our tax dollars...so we own it and there is no giving it back except by an act of congress as a gift...
But the right wing is doing this to stick a finger in the eye of our country.

 

2banon

(7,321 posts)
41. Lovely memories in the Kenai Peninsula.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 05:14 PM
Mar 2014

Performed in Seward, spent a couple of days there.

On our performance tour included Kodiak Island, Homer, Kenai and some other places. One take away from the trip was getting acquainted with Russian culture as well as Inuit peoples. It was fun, I'd love to go there again. Seward was a trip. Performed at the Sea Life Center, our "stage" area was set up right in front of the Sea Lyon Aquarium.. did a boat tour on fjords, the glaciers are mind blowing, both visually and aurally. I had no idea they make this sort of other worldly moaning sound when "calving" (I think is the term).. The Orcas simply stunning, and other wildlife including the bald headed eagles were plentiful.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
33. FReepers love Putin
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 04:57 PM
Mar 2014

All those traitorous wingnuts are calling for secession all the time while loudly proclaiming their "patriotism."

Ptooie.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
34. Another "Dumbest Thing Ever"
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 05:00 PM
Mar 2014

However...can we "secede" Palin's ass to Puty?!?

Oh that's right...she's hiding out in Arizona now.

christx30

(6,241 posts)
43. So now it's time for
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 05:14 PM
Mar 2014

the Russian/non-Russian self defense units to show up in Fairbanks and protect the population and their right to self determination from NATO and western interference. Right?

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
46. Indexed for inflation since 1867, the cost to be paid to the US Government for Alaska would be
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 05:17 PM
Mar 2014

about $120 billion.

Crowman1979

(3,844 posts)
49. Be careful what you wish for Teabaggers! Otherwise get ready to be told...
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 06:13 PM
Mar 2014

Говорите по-русски ты дебил!

Which is Russian for: Speak Russian you moron!

Guaguacoa

(271 posts)
70. I doubt seriously it's teabaggers signing it, most likely
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 08:49 PM
Mar 2014

russians or blue staters. Think teabaggers want to get rid of a red state?

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
54. Candidate for this year's "You Call This NEWS?" Award
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 06:37 PM
Mar 2014

The "You Forgot the 'Not From The Onion' Disclaimer" category.

P.S. What's next -- a petition to give Texas back to Mexico? How about giving Hawaii back to Kenya?


rocktivity

Wolf Frankula

(3,601 posts)
57. It Will Be No Deal
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 06:41 PM
Mar 2014

I was part of a committee negotiating the re-sale of Alaska to Russia. Russia agreed to pay $20,000.000 in gold, a substantial profit over the $7,200,000 paid in 1867. They balked at taking Snow Snooki and her family. I was instructed by Mr. Obama, 'Either they take the Palins or it's no deal.' Vladimir Putin told me directly, "There is absolutely NO, that is NO way we will take Snow Snooki, Sarah Palin and her family, No, nyet end of discussion."

There matters end.

Wolf

red dog 1

(27,820 posts)
59. K&R...Thanks for posting.
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 06:57 PM
Mar 2014

Q....How many tea baggers does it take to change a light bulb?

A....None! When they come across a dim bulb, they run it for Congress.

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
61. So Calfornia had a Russian fort 2hrs north of San Francisco...
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 07:06 PM
Mar 2014

Does that mean we in California can now choose where we want to belong to?

I will opt for Mexico instead of Russia if I can't be American. On the other hand Fort Ross was bought by John Sutter who was originally from Switzerland. So does that mean I can be Euro-trash?

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
75. So a vote in Alaska would be to secede and join Russia but a vote in Crimea is annexation?
Sat Mar 29, 2014, 10:03 PM
Mar 2014

How does that work?

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
84. I remember when the CONservatives hated Communism. Now, they LOVE Communism. And Daddy Putin, too!
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 03:21 AM
Mar 2014
Traitors.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
92. The Indians used to own NYC...should we give that back to them.
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 01:39 PM
Mar 2014

I'll bet 100% of them wish they had it back.

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
96. With more frequency there are OP's where one is sure to find a link to The Onion.
Sun Mar 30, 2014, 03:46 PM
Mar 2014

Then you open it, and it's not.

Have these signatures been verified I wonder..not that it is impossible there are 30, 000
clueless people living in any one state.

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