U.S., other powers kick Russia out of G8

[Tommy_Carcetti]

Source: CNN

(CNN) -- President Barack Obama and other world leaders will discuss ending Russia's role in the group of leading industrialized nations, a senior White House official said Monday.

The move to suspend Russia's membership in the G8 would be the latest direct response from major countries allied against its annexation of Crimea. Administration officials said there is no reason for Russia to remain in the group at this point.

"Our view is simply that if Russia is flagrantly violating international law and the order that the G7 has hoped to build since the end of the Cold War, there's no need to engage with Russia," Ben Rhodes, Obama's deputy national security adviser, told reporters in The Netherlands where the President attended a nuclear security summit


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/24/politics/obama-europe-trip/index.html

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And the vice slowly tightens on Vladimir.....

[NickB79]

1. That's gonna leave a mark. nt

[uhnope]

2. oh hell yeah.

repercussions, Vlad, repercussions....

I hope to live long enough to see a Pussy Riot Party come to power in Russia.

[cosmicone]

3. Sour grapes...

The G7 has countries that are on economic ropes like Italy in it ... hardly an "Industrial Power"

China, India and Brazil have far far bigger economies than those of Italy or France.

They should call it the "Non-slavic White Coalition" instead.

[lsewpershad]

4. +1

[Alhena]

6. Japan is white?

[cosmicone]

7. At the time G7 was formed

Japan had a big economy -- so as the "White Asians" they were admitted to the "Club"

It is still about the imperialist and colonialist powers anyway.

[7962]

10. "White Asians"? Are you serious? I think Japan would be offended. Whats next, "high yellow"?

Such nonsense.
What about when we have the G20 meetings, I guess then we're including the "white Latinos" and "white Arabs"?

[cosmicone]

12. G20 is a much more representative and diverse group

and those countries' economies have effect on a very large world population.

I think the UK and France have been "has beens" and should be out of the UNSC permanent membership as well.

[Adrahil]

33. Wha?

France and the UK have very large economies, Ranked 5th and 6th repsectively. Russia is down there are number 8, slightly ahead of Italy.

Step away from the.... whatever it is you have!

[7962]

8. Dont know where you get your figures from, but France's GDP is bigger than Brazil & India

And Italy's is larger than India. Measured per person, the difference is huge. Russia's economy is one dimensional. Their economy IS less than Brazil. Putin also has a great desire to be seen as a big world leader. Throwing him out of the club knocks him down a notch and to him is embarrassing.
Or we could just start with a war if you think economic slaps wont work.

[Pterodactyl]

15. And the US has 40 million African Americans, plus other nonwhite groups.

[Lasher]

25. White African Americans don't count.

If Japanese are guilty by their association with America, then surely black must be white in the USA.

[Pterodactyl]

26. Maybe I missed something, but I have no idea what point you are trying to convey.

And it sounds sort of racially insensitive, but honestly, I can't tell what you meant.

[Lasher]

29. I was trying to agree with you while injecting a little humor.

If we embrace the absurd notion that Asians with close ties with America (Japanese in this case) are white by association, then surely that principle must apply to all those of us who are actual US citizens. I was trying to be funny but sometimes DU can be a tough crowd.

Racial insensitivity is pretty much the point. There can be no doubt that Japanese people are offended by such a stereotypical argument. I was hoping my metaphor would help convey that point.

[Pterodactyl]

30. OK. Sorry to give you a hard time. I came into the room from a different angle!

And I was all like "Whuh!".

[leftynyc]

35. You're love for putin

and his brand of homophobia and tyrannical behavior sure does say a lot about you. None of it good. You also may want to note that neither China or Japan are white.

[cosmicone]

37. again, you equate deescalation with love for Putin

i don't care if it is Putin or Harvey Milk... This has nothing to do with homophobia or homophilia.

By the way, it is "your love for Putin " not "you're love for Putin."

[leftynyc]

38. How pathetically predictable

for you to concentrate on grammar. And to ignore the homophobia out of putin's russia to crap on the US. More predictable bullshit from the likes of you.

[cosmicone]

39. Like I explained .. this has nothing to do with Putin's homophobia

This is strictly about geopolitics.

If you want LGBT membership to be blind and treated equally, you should not bring it into other areas. That would be how repukes attacked Barney Frank ... not about his policies and legislative initiatives but over his sexual orientation. "Barney Frank's unemployment proposals are bad ... he is gay after all" kind of attitude.

You are doing the same thing from an opposite perspective .. i.e. everything Putin is doing is bad because he is homophobic.

Such blanket aspersions don't do justice for the LGBT cause. One should be able to support the "other" (LGBT-neutral) policies of someone who is gay as well as someone who is homophobic if such policies are in the best interests of people. That doesn't mean one supports being gay or one supports homophobia -- it only means one supports the given policy.

[leftynyc]

40. What a bunch of self-serving crap

But entirely predictable. You've become so boring in your defense of russia, it's time to scroll by your bilge.

[cosmicone]

41. You're (not "your") welcome! n/t

[leftynyc]

42. LOL - and petty also

What a lovely quality for a supposed liberal.

[Orsino]

44. I see this as escalation.

These are the economic big guns. If there's a chance of it coming to pass, Putin has got to be looking for a race-saving way out.

[TwilightGardener]

5. Good. Maybe Russia can rejoin when they aren't led by a high-functioning crackpot.

[dipsydoodle]

9. Headline is contradicted by narrative

which says will discuss........

[npk]

11. Swap the order of the U.S. and Russia in that headline and it would still be more true.

But of course Russia is evil and the US is the land of fluffy bunny rabbits and god's personal warriors of peace and destruction.

[cosmicone]

13. lol n/t

[Cha]

14. No, according to you and your ilk.. The USA is BAD and RUssia is filled with fluffy

fucking bunnies.

[npk]

16. Nah my ilk just call out how one country gets a pass for it's war mongering and the other doesn't.

Oh wait sorry, me bad, USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA USA!!!!

[Cha]

17. Yeah, your crowd hates the USA and Russia is pure bunnyville.

[npk]

19. Just the opposite.

I don't hate the USA, I hate what it has become. I wish for USA that could live up to promise, and achieve a level freedom that all citizens could benefit from. I have never been to Russia. I am sure there are many people in that country that hate what is going on in their name, much like I am sick of the atrocities that the US commits all over the world being done in my name.

If I hated this country as much as you imagine, I would have left it a long time ago.

[840high]

27. ...^ that

[jakeXT]

18. BRIC countries oppose ban on Putin attending G20 Summit

NEW DELHI: India, Brazil, China and South Africa today opposed any restrictions on participation of Russian President Vladimir Putin at the G-20 summit in Australia later this year in the wake of Russia annexing Crimea from Ukraine.

The BRICS (Brazil, Russia, India, China and South Africa) countries expressed concern over Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop's comment that Putin could be barred from attending the G 20 Summit in November.

"The Ministers noted with concern the recent media statement on the forthcoming G20 Summit to be held in Brisbane in November 2014. The custodianship of the G20 belongs to all member-states equally and no one member-state can unilaterally determine its nature and character," the BRICS said in a statement.

The Ministers of BRICS countries met on the sidelines of the Nuclear Security Summit in The Hague, Netherlands.


Read more at:
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/32616450.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

[onehandle]

20. Good. Russia is a minor corrupt power.

If not for their nukes, we would never hear a word about them.

[penultimate]

21. Hmmmm... The US and UK were not kicked out of G8 because of Iraq....

I'm not a Putin fan by any means, but this seems a bit hypocritical.

[Cha]

23. Yeah, No.. because of fucking bush and cheney.. putin does not get a free pass.

[mazzarro]

31. Was Bush/Cheney not representing the US? And Was Blair not representing the UK?

Why should Russia be kicked out because of Putin if the US and UK got a pass for Iraq?

[Cha]

32. Yeah, it's a shame about fucking bush, cheney, and blair.. does not excuse Poor Putin..

[1000words]

22. Kicked out the house ... for good.

[ozone_man]

24. " flagrantly violating international law"

Since when do we conform with international law? Bombing Iraq for it's oil, overthrowing popularly elected governments since the 1950's. False pretenses for Vietnam war. The list seems endless.

That Crimea can vote to join Russia without violence is pretty incredible. I think the U.S. has much to learn. We bombed Iraq back to the stone age, many hundred's of thousands dead and maimed. We will always have that on our conscience.

[840high]

28. +100

[cosmicone]

45. +1,000,000 n/t

[Nihil]

46. IOKIYAA?

I guess the cheerleaders upthread who are determined to paint any dissent with the
usual variations on the "Putin-lover" label have decided to follow the party line,
"Moved On" and are only "Looking Forward" again ...

Those who don't learn from history ... don't tolerate dissent.

[dipsydoodle]

34. G8 is no more than informal discussion forum.

Russia's suspension achieves nothing other than an inability for the remaining G7 as a group to discuss the current issues in Ukraine - hardly productive.

[Bodhi BloodWave]

47. I'd be inclined to agree with ya

Rather then having the opposing view the 'debate' will/would be more along these lines

C1: "What russia did is bad" C2:"Agreed" C3:"your right" C4: "wouldn't it be more accurate to say what russia did was VERY bad" c5:"Oh my, your right" c6: "ayupp" C7: "maybe we should listen to what Russia has to say?" c1-6 in unison "NO!"

Assuming there is one sensible voice amongst them :p

[DeSwiss]

36. ....

''I would never be a part of a
club that would have me as a
member anyways.....''

~Grocho Putin

[Orsino]

43. I dunno. Fox is gonna pout and call names until someone gets bombed.

While The McCains of the world whine about a lack of soundbites, real high-level negotiation has been going on.

[JackRiddler]

48. The aggressor nations in Iraq...

have no claim on moral standing.