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itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 02:01 AM Mar 2014

Wooden pallet with strapping belts found Saturday in MH370 search is common in airline and shipping

Last edited Sun Mar 23, 2014, 11:58 AM - Edit history (1)

Source: CNN

Wooden pallet with strapping belts found Saturday in MH370 search is common in airline and shipping industries, Australian official says.


Pallet found

On Saturday, searchers found a wooden pallet as well as strapping belts, AMSA's John Young said. The use of wooden pallets is common in the airline industry


Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/23/world/asia/malaysia-airlines-plane/index.html?hpt=hp_inthenews

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Wooden pallet with strapping belts found Saturday in MH370 search is common in airline and shipping (Original Post) itsrobert Mar 2014 OP
would they be able to identify the origins of it ? JI7 Mar 2014 #1
Possible. jmowreader Mar 2014 #2
would they be able to tell something like the age, or how long it had been in the water ? JI7 Mar 2014 #4
that's probably could help itsrobert Mar 2014 #6
If there are no markings they probably can do lab test itsrobert Mar 2014 #3
Sheesh! Like a strapped wooden pallet is never shipped by other than commercial air. longship Mar 2014 #5
:D tofuandbeer Mar 2014 #8
Ha ha. I remember that episode. Enraged_Ape Mar 2014 #23
There was a large number of lithium batteries being shipped on that flight. MADem Mar 2014 #7
Agreed tofuandbeer Mar 2014 #9
The batteries... SoapBox Mar 2014 #10
It was reported in the NYT and affiliated papers--buried in the article. MADem Mar 2014 #11
I doubt burning batteries get you thousands of miles off course AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #12
The batteries could have shorted out critical systems. MADem Mar 2014 #13
But the plane didn't fly in a straight line. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #14
Perhaps the first system affected was the oxygen to the passenger compartment... MADem Mar 2014 #15
Circumstances don't fit. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #16
Hopefully we'll get some answers soon. I rule nothing out until we get the data and the MADem Mar 2014 #17
The whole thing just doesn't add up. Enraged_Ape Mar 2014 #24
You're travelling through another dimension....!!! MADem Mar 2014 #26
This seems unlikely Android3.14 Mar 2014 #18
Patience, we'll have answers soon. The CNN psychic is on it. lob1 Mar 2014 #19
why are lithium-batteries being moved by air freight? quadrature Mar 2014 #20
Must be an "oops, never mind" Ms. Toad Mar 2014 #21
French satellite spots potential objects OKNancy Mar 2014 #22
wooden pallets on a 777? BlueCollar Mar 2014 #25

jmowreader

(50,567 posts)
2. Possible.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 02:08 AM
Mar 2014

If there's something unusual painted on the pallet, they MIGHT be able to trace it back, using shipping documentation. But if it's just a wooden skid with a Kinedyne strap on it (Kinedyne is a huge manufacturer of cargo straps, and their straps are used worldwide), then no.

JI7

(89,279 posts)
4. would they be able to tell something like the age, or how long it had been in the water ?
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 02:10 AM
Mar 2014

i was thinking that might help. if they know it was just in the water about the amount of time the plane has been missing .

itsrobert

(14,157 posts)
3. If there are no markings they probably can do lab test
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 02:10 AM
Mar 2014

to see where the wood originated and if there are some Malaysian microorganism/bugs that hitched a ride in the wood.



http://www.kwch.com/news/national/URGENT-Malaysia-plane-wooden-pallet/25112542







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(CNN) -- One piece of debris found was a wooden pallet as well as strapping belts, an Australian search official said. The use of wooden pallets is common in the airline industry, he added. "It's a possible lead...but pallets are used in the shipping industry as well."

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. Sheesh! Like a strapped wooden pallet is never shipped by other than commercial air.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 02:13 AM
Mar 2014

CNN has long since gone off the deep end. I truly believe that the evidence for such a claim can be definitively backed up by the following:



QED

On edit:One presumes that Wolf didn't lose by not understanding the concept of "Please form your response in the form of a question." But I truly believe that he just is not very smart.

Enraged_Ape

(6,107 posts)
23. Ha ha. I remember that episode.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 06:33 AM
Mar 2014

I knew Wolf Blitzer was no intellectual Hercules, but it was jaw-dropping to see how dumb he actually is.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
7. There was a large number of lithium batteries being shipped on that flight.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 02:31 AM
Mar 2014

That might have been the cause. Those things can catch on fire.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
10. The batteries...
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 03:24 AM
Mar 2014

I had not heard about that.

Makes me think of another horrific incident...ValuJet...the oxygen generators and tires...stupid, stupid, stupid.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
11. It was reported in the NYT and affiliated papers--buried in the article.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 03:32 AM
Mar 2014

They also talked about those pallets...

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/23/world/asia/a-routine-flight-till-both-routine-and-flight-vanish.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

Outside, ground crews loaded the passenger luggage into the jet’s cargo hold, which can carry up to six pallets and 14 shipping containers. The airline said no hazardous or valuable goods were on the flight. But among the cargo were a “significant” number of lithium batteries — which can be flammable — more than is typically sent in a shipment, one American official said.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
12. I doubt burning batteries get you thousands of miles off course
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 03:34 AM
Mar 2014

jinking around ground radars, etc.

I could believe something like that if the issue was a plane that just flew on unresponsive in an autopilot heading, until it crashed, completely out of fuel. Crew and passengers poisoned by the smoke.

But that doesn't explain seemingly directed, intelligent commands to change heading and altitude.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. The batteries could have shorted out critical systems.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 03:36 AM
Mar 2014

Created a Payne Stewart scenario...and the plane flew on.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
14. But the plane didn't fly in a straight line.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 03:39 AM
Mar 2014

The Payne Stewart flight just kept on going. Till it ran out of fuel.

The vanished 777 changed course, many times.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
15. Perhaps the first system affected was the oxygen to the passenger compartment...
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 03:43 AM
Mar 2014

The pilots set a course for an airport, realize they can't make it, and then try to turn and go back....then the lithium battery fire shorts out the critical systems (like their oxygen) in the cockpit.

But they're already on a heading...and they just KEEP GOING....and going...and going.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
16. Circumstances don't fit.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 03:50 AM
Mar 2014

The plane must have changed course twice after it crossed back over the mainland. Once to the north, and once drastically to the south.

(Assuming it is, indeed, on the 'red line' of possible locations it could be, given the satellite pings)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
17. Hopefully we'll get some answers soon. I rule nothing out until we get the data and the
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 04:08 AM
Mar 2014

experts can have a look at it.

Enraged_Ape

(6,107 posts)
24. The whole thing just doesn't add up.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 06:43 AM
Mar 2014

I fully expect the plane to land in another week at its destination. And everyone on board will disembark, in perfect condition, and wonder what all the fuss is about, no time having passed for them.

And the camera will quickly pan to Rod Serling, cigarette in hand, saying, "Submitted for your approval..."

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
18. This seems unlikely
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 04:22 AM
Mar 2014

There would have been radio communication of a fire event or the plane would have crashed immediately or flown in a straight line if everyone was dead. Since neither consequences occurred, it seems unlikely a fire caused the disappearance.

lob1

(3,820 posts)
19. Patience, we'll have answers soon. The CNN psychic is on it.
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 04:30 AM
Mar 2014

But imho, it's looking like the black hole did it.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
22. French satellite spots potential objects
Sun Mar 23, 2014, 06:25 AM
Mar 2014

Breaking News ?@BreakingNews 38m
Malaysia: New satellite images from French authorities show potential objects in missing jet southern search zone, official says - @H2OComms

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