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mistertrickster

(7,062 posts)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 05:45 PM Mar 2012

Republican bill would enroll seniors in same health plans as lawmakers

Source: The Hill

A group of Senate Republicans has introduced legislation that would end traditional Medicare and sign seniors up for the same private healthcare plans received by members of Congress.

The "Congressional Health Care for Seniors Act" would allow seniors to choose from the array of plans currently offered to the four million federal employees and their dependents in the Federal Employee Health Benefit program, starting in 2014. It would also gradually increase the eligibility age for Medicare from 65 to 70 over a 20-year period.

The bill was introduced Thursday by Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.). South Carolina Sens. Lindsey Graham and Jim DeMint are co-sponsors, along with Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah).

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/healthwatch/medicare/216303-gop-medicare-bill-would-enroll-seniors-into-lawmakers-plans



Holy Cow . . . I think the RepubliCons just signed their own death warrants.
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Republican bill would enroll seniors in same health plans as lawmakers (Original Post) mistertrickster Mar 2012 OP
Medicare at 70??? What a load of shit that is. MichiganVote Mar 2012 #1
It's a fiscally prudent measure enacted by a-holes. shcrane71 Mar 2012 #17
I have the Federal Employee Health Benefit plan. It is good, but no replacement for Medicare. alfredo Mar 2012 #2
Exactly . . . Private insurers DON'T WANT old folks. mistertrickster Mar 2012 #7
They just want us go away and die. alfredo Mar 2012 #20
fuck that, medicare for all, we pay for it, we deserve it. onethatcares Mar 2012 #3
We have a version that costs us 500 a month, plus what ever the Feds chip in. denbot Mar 2012 #4
Depending on your income montanacowboy Mar 2012 #5
THIS IS TOTALLY INSANE montanacowboy Mar 2012 #6
"ARE THEY FUCKING NUTS?" area51 Mar 2012 #16
They aren't nuts, they are evil. alfredo Mar 2012 #21
It's baloney.... of course. Rand Paul brand shit baloney. AlbertCat Mar 2012 #8
So seniors will have to pay free market insurance rates until age 70???? WTF????? kestrel91316 Mar 2012 #9
LMAO "Free" market rates! shcrane71 Mar 2012 #18
This is just another idea to kill Medicare PSPS Mar 2012 #10
That might be okay if DavidDvorkin Mar 2012 #11
COULD work IF Feds paid ALL of seniors' monthly premiums; elleng Mar 2012 #12
republiCons are cruel, inhuman psychopaths magic59 Mar 2012 #13
No, they're working on living harvest - what do you think the whole obesity thing is about? saras Mar 2012 #19
The Hill certainly produced a misleading headline. fasttense Mar 2012 #14
Shouldn't the headline read: "GOP Continues to Plan Privatization of Medicare"? sinkingfeeling Mar 2012 #15
These Republicans are going down!!! lovuian Mar 2012 #22

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
17. It's a fiscally prudent measure enacted by a-holes.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 11:31 AM
Mar 2012

Most Americans die prior to getting access to healthcare.

 

mistertrickster

(7,062 posts)
7. Exactly . . . Private insurers DON'T WANT old folks.
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 06:12 PM
Mar 2012

That was what got Medicare passed to begin with. It reduced cost for private plans in a huge way.

onethatcares

(16,172 posts)
3. fuck that, medicare for all, we pay for it, we deserve it.
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 05:57 PM
Mar 2012

I'll bet we would never hear a word about how much they'll make on the back end if they can get everyone over 65

to buy private healthcare insurance.

denbot

(9,900 posts)
4. We have a version that costs us 500 a month, plus what ever the Feds chip in.
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 06:01 PM
Mar 2012

For a single person with out the matching funds the cost would be at least 500 per month with a number of deductions that would be due when treatment is sought. How much are medicare premiums right now?

montanacowboy

(6,090 posts)
6. THIS IS TOTALLY INSANE
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 06:10 PM
Mar 2012

PART A MEDICARE THERE IS NO CHARGE - YOU AUTOMATICALLY GET IT AT AGE 65

PART B MEDICARE (DOCTOR'S VISITS) $98/MO

AND THEY WANT SENIORS TO PAY LIKE A REGULAR HEALTH CARE PLAN? JESUS H CHRIST
ARE THEY FUCKING NUTS?

area51

(11,910 posts)
16. "ARE THEY FUCKING NUTS?"
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 11:18 AM
Mar 2012

Yes, they are.

Since they have to know that most seniors aren't wealthy like they are, this apparently is their plan for population control.

Logan's Run, anyone?

 

AlbertCat

(17,505 posts)
8. It's baloney.... of course. Rand Paul brand shit baloney.
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 06:14 PM
Mar 2012

As it says near the end of the article:


"This is a kill-two-birds-with-one-stone kind of proposal that would both bring down Medicare as we know it and threaten the stability of the FEHBP," said association president Joseph Beaudoin. "As for the senators' notion that America's seniors should be in the same health care system as America's elected officials, they seem to have forgotten that starting in 2014, members of Congress will no longer be covered by the FEHBP but will be in state-based health care exchanges."

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
9. So seniors will have to pay free market insurance rates until age 70???? WTF?????
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 06:20 PM
Mar 2012

What's that these days? $2500/mo or so????

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)
18. LMAO "Free" market rates!
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 11:34 AM
Mar 2012

I can't imagine what healthcare premiums are for someone older than 60.

Crazy how the FREE market healthcare is running seniors into bankruptcy. We need price controls.

PSPS

(13,601 posts)
10. This is just another idea to kill Medicare
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 08:22 PM
Mar 2012

The idea will likely be to "enroll" seniors and then give them a voucher for (part of) the "private insurance program" premium. In other words, it is a way to destroy Medicare and funnel taxpayer money to the profit-making (and, more importantly, bribing campaign contributing) insurance companies.

Plus it raises the age for eligibility to 70, which is a de-facto raising of the retirement age.

DavidDvorkin

(19,479 posts)
11. That might be okay if
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 09:35 PM
Mar 2012

the average Social Security check was equal to what those lawmakers get.

But only as a stopgap on the road to fee health insurance for everyone.

elleng

(130,972 posts)
12. COULD work IF Feds paid ALL of seniors' monthly premiums;
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 09:56 PM
Mar 2012

they pay a portion of Fed employees' premiums now. AND seniors' co-pays.

FEHBP is a very good fee-for-service system, giving employees many choices for coverage. It does cost. (I use it, instead of Medicare, as husband is a Fed. employee.)

 

magic59

(429 posts)
13. republiCons are cruel, inhuman psychopaths
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 11:35 PM
Mar 2012

What will they think of next, glue factories for the elderly?

 

saras

(6,670 posts)
19. No, they're working on living harvest - what do you think the whole obesity thing is about?
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 12:03 PM
Mar 2012

In between your mandatory rapes, comes the collection of the pound of flesh...

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
14. The Hill certainly produced a misleading headline.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 08:26 AM
Mar 2012

Seniors wont get what lawmakers get. Seniors wont have the option to go to any military medical facility for FREE, like lawmakers get.

But of course no one mentions that part.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
22. These Republicans are going down!!!
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 01:17 PM
Mar 2012

they are going into extinction
the Baby Boomers better wake up and Vote them out

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