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Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 02:44 AM Mar 2012

Goldman Stunned by Op-Ed Loses $2.2 Billion

Source: Business Week

Goldman Sachs Group Inc. (GS) saw $2.15 billion of its market value wiped out after an employee assailed Chief Executive Officer Lloyd C. Blankfein’s management and the firm’s treatment of clients, sparking debate across Wall Street.

The shares dropped 3.4 percent in New York trading yesterday, the third-biggest decline in the 81-company Standard & Poor’s 500 Financials Index, after London-based Greg Smith made the accusations in a New York Times op-ed piece.

Smith, who also wrote that he was quitting after 12 years at the company, blamed Blankfein, 57, and President Gary D. Cohn, 51, for a “decline in the firm’s moral fiber.” They responded in a memo to current and former employees, saying that Smith’s assertions don’t reflect the firm’s values, culture or “how the vast majority of people at Goldman Sachs think about the firm and the work it does on behalf of our clients.”

Former Federal Reserve Chairman Paul Volcker, 84, whose “Volcker rule” would limit banks like New York-based Goldman Sachs from making bets with their own money, called Smith’s article “a radical, strong” piece. “I’m afraid it’s a business that leads to a lot of conflicts of interest,” Volcker said at a conference in Washington sponsored by the Atlantic.

Read more: http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-03-14/goldman-stunned-by-op-ed-loses-2-dot-2-billion-for-shareholders



Proof that talk is not necessarily cheap. I imagine Mr. Smith has angered several people.
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Goldman Stunned by Op-Ed Loses $2.2 Billion (Original Post) Julian Englis Mar 2012 OP
Too bad, eat shit and die Blankfein. BootinUp Mar 2012 #1
Evidently the Muppets actually can't take Manhattan. n/t dimbear Mar 2012 #2
Good one. Arugula Latte Mar 2012 #32
That's amazing. freshwest Mar 2012 #3
Could'nt happen to "nicer" people Mopar151 Mar 2012 #4
Yes well, we have to 'look forward', donchya know? SammyWinstonJack Mar 2012 #12
We shouldn't begrudge their wealth or success. OnyxCollie Mar 2012 #20
It's not their wealth that makes them bad people. Arkana Mar 2012 #22
Was Obama talking about JFK or FDR when he said that? OnyxCollie Mar 2012 #26
Demonizing rich people for being rich is not going to make us any friends, pal. Arkana Mar 2012 #46
Gotta agree with you here. Mopar151 Mar 2012 #44
why not? They make it on the backs of just folks & the environment wordpix Mar 2012 #51
The poorer they get, the more likely they will be prosecuted. tcaudilllg Mar 2012 #43
There is no honor among thieves. n/t fasttense Mar 2012 #5
Just WOW!! This self-inflicted "justice" could hardly be any more poetic. K-F*cking-R 99th_Monkey Mar 2012 #6
There aren't enough violins in all the world's orchestras..... marmar Mar 2012 #7
thieves.... irisblue Mar 2012 #8
Smith better stay away from small airplanes nxylas Mar 2012 #9
Goldman Sachs pays their attorney's 1,000 an hour.... midnight Mar 2012 #10
Think I'm gonna cry... davidthegnome Mar 2012 #11
Thanks, and welcome to DU lunatica Mar 2012 #13
welcome to du madrchsod Mar 2012 #14
When I read Smith's piece lovemydog Mar 2012 #15
I figured he was a lower-level guy.... PassingFair Mar 2012 #28
Romney and spouse have a few accounts at GS... dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #29
Keep kicking ... GeorgeGist Mar 2012 #16
Karmic payback LiberalEsto Mar 2012 #17
The problem with the free market, the stock market: it is all psychology; "panic" and "depression" Brettongarcia Mar 2012 #18
End all stock speculation. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #19
HOw about ending ... protecting all large speculators and companies from loss? "Too large to fail"? Brettongarcia Mar 2012 #41
In what sense does Reason exist? AngryAmish Mar 2012 #49
I loved Blankfein's response: Arkana Mar 2012 #21
Caption Lloyd Bankfiend: HughBeaumont Mar 2012 #33
I think you mean... "how much longer IS this MUPPET show going to go on?" crazylikafox Mar 2012 #39
I bet they'd like to Wellstone this guy. JNelson6563 Mar 2012 #23
This makes my day, Thanks. sarcasmo Mar 2012 #24
Hopefully the first of many bad things to come at Goldman Sachs....Couldnt happen to more deserving Pachamama Mar 2012 #25
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Mar 2012 #27
You're welcome. Julian Englis Mar 2012 #34
If I were he, I wouldn't sit with my back to the door. WheelWalker Mar 2012 #30
I'm enjoying this far too much. Beacool Mar 2012 #31
AWWWWW Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2012 #35
And this is why DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #36
Morally bankrupt is being too kind. Where there were no morals, there WestSeattle2 Mar 2012 #37
I want to hug Smith. woo me with science Mar 2012 #38
Good! abelenkpe Mar 2012 #40
hehehehehe DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #42
Baxter/Enron? lostnote12 Mar 2012 #45
yep lovuian Mar 2012 #48
The Corruption must not be tolerated lovuian Mar 2012 #47
Well done Mr. Smith sarcasmo Mar 2012 #50
“Who’s going to hire someone who would do that?” I would! wordpix Mar 2012 #52

Mopar151

(9,989 posts)
4. Could'nt happen to "nicer" people
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 03:37 AM
Mar 2012

The bad faith, double dealing, skimming and outright theft practiced by Goldman Sachs and other Wall Street "Players" should have resulted in serious jail time, and asset seizures & liquidation unprecedented in modern times.

Bernie Madoff was a pipsqueak by comparison.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,130 posts)
12. Yes well, we have to 'look forward', donchya know?
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 06:37 AM
Mar 2012

Besides, the banksters didn't do anything illegal, right, Obama?

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
22. It's not their wealth that makes them bad people.
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 11:15 AM
Mar 2012

Their choices and their utter contempt towards those who do not have what they do are what makes them bad people. JFK and FDR were both privileged growing up but they managed to turn out decent.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
26. Was Obama talking about JFK or FDR when he said that?
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 11:29 AM
Mar 2012

I don't think so.

Keep spinning; you need the practice.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
46. Demonizing rich people for being rich is not going to make us any friends, pal.
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 01:07 PM
Mar 2012

Attacking them for being amoral, soulless husks who hate poor people is better because it points toward intentions.

And where do you get the idea that I was "spinning"?

Mopar151

(9,989 posts)
44. Gotta agree with you here.
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 11:05 PM
Mar 2012

I've met some who were born to wealth and priviledge, who were very good people, and others - even siblings - who turned out nasty. Lots of factors involved besides $$$$$ - like having someone in their lives who cared how they turned out.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
6. Just WOW!! This self-inflicted "justice" could hardly be any more poetic. K-F*cking-R
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 04:54 AM
Mar 2012

All together now ... Visualize this => The Invisible Hand(s) tightening around Goldman Sachs' own neck.

Hats off - BIG respect to Greg Smith, the ex-Goldman Sachs executive who authored this story.
Many blessings for hit courage and integrity. May The Force keep him and his family safe.

midnight

(26,624 posts)
10. Goldman Sachs pays their attorney's 1,000 an hour....
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 06:07 AM
Mar 2012

"Think about this for a moment, because, well, it is utterly unthinkable in the annals of Goldmandom. Cosa Nostra be damned, an executive decides to go out as publicly and bitterly as possible, foregoing what was likely a substantial exit bonus that would have been predicated on his signing a nondisclosure agreement. To go up against perhaps the world’s most powerful and connected financial institution, whose PR apparatus is now helmed by the former right-hand to Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner. A bank that is repped by more $1,000-an-hour attorneys than last spotted in the sprawling campus of lawyer hell."http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/216043-obama-and-cameron-promise-to-work-together-on-cybersecurity

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
29. Romney and spouse have a few accounts at GS...
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 01:03 PM
Mar 2012

bet they won't move it.
Maybe we should ask him to?????

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
18. The problem with the free market, the stock market: it is all psychology; "panic" and "depression"
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 09:41 AM
Mar 2012

Our allegedly free, capitalistic stock market is highly touted. But? Our system, especially the free stock market, is not as rational or as good, as people thought.

Especially, the core of our whole economy, is dominated not by Reason, but by fickle Psychology. It is literally at risk everyday, from the whims of uninformed, emotional buys and sellers.

That, I submit, is a fundamental problem with Capitalism, and with the Stock Market.

Especially when all our retirement money was handed over to the stock market, in 401 K's etc.? Then huge, gigantic amounts of dumb money were dumped on the market. Guaranteeing that our economy would be even more emotional, fickle, and "irrationally exhuberant." Until our "bubble" burst. While any lessons that might have been learned, are remembered for only a very short time. And then the market is back up and down, again.

Brettongarcia

(2,262 posts)
41. HOw about ending ... protecting all large speculators and companies from loss? "Too large to fail"?
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 06:18 PM
Mar 2012

How about a REALLY free market?

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
49. In what sense does Reason exist?
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 01:19 PM
Mar 2012

Actually Reason is just a nice explanation we give ourselves for doing what we want to do.

I would hate to live in a world where Reason decides how to allocate resources. Leaving aside the intractable knowledge problem, I don't want to live where my betters get to decide what I get to buy and where I get to live.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
21. I loved Blankfein's response:
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 11:14 AM
Mar 2012

"This is not how the majority of the company feels."

What he left out was: "Me personally? Oh, they're all fucking rubes for trusting us. Stupid poors."

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
33. Caption Lloyd Bankfiend:
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 02:04 PM
Mar 2012


"Siiiiiiiiiiiiigh . . . how much longer IS this puppet show going to go on? I have a Congressional whipping to attend."

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
25. Hopefully the first of many bad things to come at Goldman Sachs....Couldnt happen to more deserving
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 11:21 AM
Mar 2012

....evil a-holes who have raped this country* and its citizens more.....

*actually, many countries

Julian Englis

(2,309 posts)
34. You're welcome.
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 02:08 PM
Mar 2012

The sad thing is this probably will not lead to real reform. The loss is just a paper loss and will probably be gone soon enough as the economy keeps growing under Obama presidency. A new Glass-Steagall is needed.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
36. And this is why
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 03:22 PM
Mar 2012

The powers that be want Chinese style speech regulations and a hogtied internet. If half of what they sweep under the rug comes out, they may explode like Vampires in sunlight.

WestSeattle2

(1,730 posts)
37. Morally bankrupt is being too kind. Where there were no morals, there
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 03:32 PM
Mar 2012

can be no bankruptcy. Goldman Sachs is truly one of America's sleaziest enterprises, exceptionally sleazy in fact, by any reasonable person's definition. How anyone with any moral fiber could last 12 years in that den of thieves and grifters, is beyond me.

woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
38. I want to hug Smith.
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 03:41 PM
Mar 2012

This is what needs to happen, en masse.

We are human beings. We need to reclaim that, over any corporate identification.

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
40. Good!
Thu Mar 15, 2012, 05:05 PM
Mar 2012

We need more people on wall street to stand up and do the right thing like Mr. Smith. Goldman deserves to lose every cent of their ill gotten gains.

lostnote12

(159 posts)
45. Baxter/Enron?
Fri Mar 16, 2012, 01:06 AM
Mar 2012

.....I'd say this guy is either a plant and we should beware of another financial shoe to drop on our nation OR rat pellet shot to the head at another gated community traffic intersection....

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
52. “Who’s going to hire someone who would do that?” I would!
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 11:35 PM
Mar 2012

Yep, if I ever get money to invest, I'll be calling that whistleblower right away.

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