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dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 09:53 AM Mar 2012

Exclusive - Greece needs to announce more austerity - EU/IMF

Source: Reuters

(Reuters) - Greece will have to slash a further 5.5 percent of GDP in government spending in 2013 and 2014 to meet agreed fiscal targets underpinning the second international bailout for Athens, a European Commission report said.

The Compliance Report by the European Union's executive describes the progress of Greek reforms necessary for the release of new euro zone money to Athens and recommends the first disbursement be made as soon as possible.


Read more: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/03/13/uk-eurozone-greece-austerity-idUKBRE82C0KY20120313

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Exclusive - Greece needs to announce more austerity - EU/IMF (Original Post) dipsydoodle Mar 2012 OP
... xchrom Mar 2012 #1
Good way of putting it Cirque du So-What Mar 2012 #7
A bit of a difference though, Joe Shlabotnik Mar 2012 #20
Could make the French Revolution look like a walk in the park Hugabear Mar 2012 #10
The working folks must be forced to pay for the Bankers excess.... lib2DaBone Mar 2012 #2
Reminds me of the reparations imposed on Germany after WWI thesquanderer Mar 2012 #3
You should check out dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #5
Do we REALLY need a new generation of Bolsheviks to convince... JHB Mar 2012 #4
They are already at the breaking point. potone Mar 2012 #6
When the Cow jumps over the Moon. CAPHAVOC Mar 2012 #8
The right wingers are telling their zombies Lydia Leftcoast Mar 2012 #16
Yoo know what? Just dismantle the whole thing and get it over with. I'm not Guy Whitey Corngood Mar 2012 #9
Solidarity with KKE and the people of Greece - TBF Mar 2012 #11
"I don't think this is going to end well for the bankers." KansDem Mar 2012 #17
I'd love to see that happen here too TBF Mar 2012 #18
I think Greece needs to announce a revolution. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2012 #12
KKE is very strong there (Greece communist party) - TBF Mar 2012 #19
They need to default and tell the Austeritists to go fuck themselves. Odin2005 Mar 2012 #13
That would be the best option for the long term. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #21
Wasn't the point of austerity to avoid default? quakerboy Mar 2012 #14
A nation of indentured servitude Bradical79 Mar 2012 #15

Cirque du So-What

(25,944 posts)
7. Good way of putting it
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 10:41 AM
Mar 2012

They'll get a foretaste of what the French aristocracy felt at the onset of the Revolution.

Joe Shlabotnik

(5,604 posts)
20. A bit of a difference though,
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 05:56 PM
Mar 2012

The French aristocracy had boundaries, and wealth tied to the land. Todays Aristocracy have no nationality, and no public face, and don't have to live surrounded by the peasants. If/when things go completely out of control in Greece, they'll move onto a new prey. They are an international virus now, above and miles beyond the reach of justice.

Hugabear

(10,340 posts)
10. Could make the French Revolution look like a walk in the park
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 11:56 AM
Mar 2012

You can only push people down for so long.

 

lib2DaBone

(8,124 posts)
2. The working folks must be forced to pay for the Bankers excess....
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 10:14 AM
Mar 2012

Same situation all over the world... the rich get rich.. the poor work harder.

dipsydoodle

(42,239 posts)
5. You should check out
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 10:21 AM
Mar 2012

what happened in Hungary. They had the highest recorded level ever of hyperinflation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hungarian_peng%C5%91

I remember a Nat West article in the early '70s which described how workers in a brick factory having lost all faith in the currency were paid with bricks which they exchanged for food out in the countryside.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
4. Do we REALLY need a new generation of Bolsheviks to convince...
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 10:17 AM
Mar 2012

...Our Dear Financial Overlords to play nice(r) with the rest of us?

Didn't they learn anything from the last time? (Oh, wait, we already know the answer to that one.)

potone

(1,701 posts)
6. They are already at the breaking point.
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 10:32 AM
Mar 2012

And why, why, why isn't Goldman Sachs being held to account for their role in this??? When will any of the banksters who crashed the world economy in 2008 be brought to trial?

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
16. The right wingers are telling their zombies
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 01:21 PM
Mar 2012

that it's all the fault of the Greece for having social benefits and that unless we get rid of welfare, privatize Social Security, and cut taxes, we'll end up like them.

Every time there's talk of whether or not to extend employment benefits, the AM radio zombies start posting en masse on local newspaper websites: "We'll end up like Greece!" (Which along with Spain and Italy, appear to be the only countries in Europe that the zombies have heard about at the moment, although just two or three years ago, they were all about how Ireland had tax-cut its way to prosperity.)

Actually, Greece's spending on social benefits is not high compared to other countries. The problem in that respect is lack of tax collection. The Scandinavian countries manage even better benefits (but the righties never want to talk about Scandinavia) because they tax themselves to pay for them.

Also, the banksters knew that Greece was not financially ready to join the EU and not a good credit risk, but they let it into the EU and lent it oodles of money anyway.

I really would like to see the Greeks put their collective feet down and just say no. The wage cuts are simply brutal.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,501 posts)
9. Yoo know what? Just dismantle the whole thing and get it over with. I'm not
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 11:44 AM
Mar 2012

sure what fucking more are they supposed to give up in that country.

TBF

(32,067 posts)
11. Solidarity with KKE and the people of Greece -
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 12:04 PM
Mar 2012

I don't think this is going to end well for the bankers.

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
17. "I don't think this is going to end well for the bankers."
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 01:23 PM
Mar 2012

Yeah, maybe they'll have to get real jobs and start working for a living!

TBF

(32,067 posts)
19. KKE is very strong there (Greece communist party) -
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 01:42 PM
Mar 2012

PAME (union workers) very strong, very organized

they will resist.

Odin2005

(53,521 posts)
13. They need to default and tell the Austeritists to go fuck themselves.
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 01:02 PM
Mar 2012

If I were Greek I would be wanting my leaders' heads.

quakerboy

(13,920 posts)
14. Wasn't the point of austerity to avoid default?
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 01:13 PM
Mar 2012

And then they decided that the deal was a default anyway? So what more is to gain by more austerity other than further pissing off voters?

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
15. A nation of indentured servitude
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 01:16 PM
Mar 2012

That seems to be what this is heading toward. Wonder what will happen when everything has been taken away, and Greece's economy is still a mess?

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