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Turborama

(22,109 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 11:29 PM Feb 2014

[Photograph of] Queue for food in Syria's Yarmouk camp shows desperation of refugees

Source: The Guardian




It is a vision of unimaginable desolation: a crowd of men, women and children stretching as far as the eye can see into the war-devastated landscape of Yarmouk refugee camp in Damascus.

A photograph released on Wednesday by the UN agency for Palestinian refugees, UNRWA, shows the scene when thousands of desperate Palestinians trapped inside the camp on the edge of the Syrian capital emerged to besiege aid workers attempting to distribute food parcels.

More than 18,000 people are existing under blockade inside Yarmouk, enduring acute shortages of food, medicines and other essentials. Much of the camp has been destroyed by shelling, and attempts to deliver aid to those inside have been hampered by continued fighting in Syria's three-year-old civil war.

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Yarmouk has been cut off since last July. Many residents are now weak and severely malnourished, as well as being exposed to the risk of disease, or death and injury from fighting. Filippo Grandi, the head of UNRWA, described the camp as a ghost town after visiting this week. "The devastation is unbelievable. There is not one single building that I have seen that is not an empty shell by now. They're all blackened by smoke," he told reporters.



Read more: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/26/queue-food-syria-yarmouk-camp-desperation-refugees

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[Photograph of] Queue for food in Syria's Yarmouk camp shows desperation of refugees (Original Post) Turborama Feb 2014 OP
There are no words! EileenFB Feb 2014 #1
Looks like WW2 with nowhere to go and unsafe buildings all around them... n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #2
What bugs me the most about this picture... Archae Feb 2014 #3
The Saudis are busy helping to fuel the civil war... Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #4
The answers are in the article n/t Turborama Feb 2014 #5
looks like Syria may go the way of Somalia JI7 Feb 2014 #6
The photo looks fake to me. El_Johns Feb 2014 #7
It doesn't to the editor of The Guardian, as it's on the cover of today's issue Turborama Feb 2014 #8
Time will tell. it wouldn't be the first time a major media source published a fake photo. El_Johns Feb 2014 #9
The one in the OP is not my print, it's the largest copy from the Guardian Turborama Feb 2014 #10
yes. see the very very tiny woman. El_Johns Feb 2014 #12
Where is this very very tiny woman you speak of? Turborama Feb 2014 #11
I don't know how to put arrows on photos. But if you look at the center of the picture, there's El_Johns Feb 2014 #13
OK, I have found a huge version of this photo and cropped out the area you're talking about... Turborama Feb 2014 #14
Yes. Your link brings me "this page cannot be displayed". El_Johns Feb 2014 #16
You have to close all the gaps, I'll write gap where they are so they are more obvious. Turborama Feb 2014 #17
and now i get the "oops" page on pri; when i search "yarmouk," i get: El_Johns Feb 2014 #18
OK, go to the top left photo in Google images. Turborama Feb 2014 #19
My first thought was that it looks photoshopped, but I am keeping an open mind about it. Quantess Feb 2014 #15
Same here. Looks like a composite. n/t FSogol Feb 2014 #20

Archae

(46,340 posts)
3. What bugs me the most about this picture...
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 01:00 AM
Feb 2014

Where is other Arab countries?

Like Saudi Arabia and Kuwait?

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
4. The Saudis are busy helping to fuel the civil war...
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 02:07 AM
Feb 2014

...as a proxy war in their fight with Iran. Saudi money pays for a lot of this revolution. I don't know how much the Saudis raise for the war's victims.

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
7. The photo looks fake to me.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 04:24 AM
Feb 2014

Here's a bigger version. Click on the first photo. Look in the center of the photo, at the guy with the backwards white baseball cap and blue jacket with lettering on it. Then look to his lower right. You will see a very very tiny woman who is apparently in front of him.

http://www.unrwa.org/galleries/photos/morning-yarmouk

I think they pasted some people in there. There are other pictures from the same set that don't look fake; they show crowded streets & food distribution, but not *that* crowded.




Jonathan M. Katz ?@KatzOnEarth · 14h
@HughSykes @JessicaMontell @UNRWA @AP Is the photo confirmed real? @storyfulpro


Sanctimonious Merkan ?@shekissesfrogs · 11h
@j0hnbrady @HughSykes because it's not, it's a composite, open in a new tab and look closely.Not a good way to advocate for starving people.


Sanctimonious Merkan ?@shekissesfrogs · 11h
@HughSykes @JessicaMontell @UNRWA @AP this is a composite, and will do harm. look closer.


John Brady ?@j0hnbrady · 10h
@shekissesfrogs Interesting. Not totally surprised. How can you tell though?

Sanctimonious Merkan ?@shekissesfrogs · 10h
@j0hnbrady used to mess with photoshop & I've seen them before. see woman in black, vertically near center,horizontal 1/3 from the right


Sanctimonious Merkan ?@shekissesfrogs · 10h
@j0hnbrady the left side of her robe (her right) is straight cut. also groupings of people have different color saturations.

John Brady ?@j0hnbrady · 9h
@shekissesfrogs I see. The image has made front page of @guardian tomorrow. See their tweet from a few minutes ago.

https://twitter.com/HughSykes/status/438662987054714880

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
9. Time will tell. it wouldn't be the first time a major media source published a fake photo.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 06:41 AM
Feb 2014

Your print is too small to see the very very tiny woman. You can see her a little better in this one.

Once you see her, it's pretty obvious it's fake.


 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
13. I don't know how to put arrows on photos. But if you look at the center of the picture, there's
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 06:50 AM
Feb 2014

a guy with a navy blue jacket with some lettering on it and a backwards white baseball cap.

At his lower right (our right, his left) is a very very tiny woman.




You can zoom in a little more on this one and see better.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/picture/2014/feb/26/yarmouk-refugee-camp-damascus-syria#zoomed-picture

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
14. OK, I have found a huge version of this photo and cropped out the area you're talking about...
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:04 AM
Feb 2014

Is she somewhere in this?



Here's the huge version I found, just copy and paste it into your browser and close the spaces:

http:// beta.pri.org/sites/default/ files/story/images/RTR3FQJZ. jpg

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
17. You have to close all the gaps, I'll write gap where they are so they are more obvious.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:27 AM
Feb 2014

http:// gap beta.pri.org/sites/default/ gap files/story/images/RTR3FQJZ. gap jpg


I can't see a tiny tiny woman in front of the guy with a baseball cap on, btw.

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
19. OK, go to the top left photo in Google images.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 08:09 AM
Feb 2014

Here: https://www.google.com/search?num=100&newwindow=1&safe=off&tbm=isch&tbs=simg:CAQSUxpRCxCo1NgEGgIIAwwLELCMpwgaKgooCAESAlNUGiDH8nnlKkqVNaRNgfWGo-s2b6n4RqYydaLU6791u5b9bQwLEI6u_1ggaCgoICAESBIrsS6IM&sa=X&ei=BBgPU-vYAcWPrgferYDwCg&ved=0CCQQ2A4oAQ&biw=1536&bih=730&dpr=1.25

And if we block out all the women in the background we are left with these 2...




...who in the context of the big picture do not look tiny tiny at all.



The guys next to them look like they're standing on something (the area is a war zone covered in rubble, remember) and the two small women talking to the younger women look elderly and they may have shortened with age, which does happen.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
15. My first thought was that it looks photoshopped, but I am keeping an open mind about it.
Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:12 AM
Feb 2014

It looks fake to me also, but it could be real. I will be holding out for confirmation.

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