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Grassy Knoll

(10,118 posts)
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:29 PM Feb 2014

Fact-Checkers Inexplicably Conclude Arizona's Anti-Gay Bill Isn't Anti-Gay

Source: talkingpointsmemo.com

A fact-checking organization run by Arizona media outlets concluded on Tuesday that the anti-gay legislation that has created a national firestorm in the state is not, in fact, discriminatory.

The organization examined an Arizona lawmaker's statement about the bill, known as SB 1062.

"This (bill) is not a discrimination bill," state Rep. Adam Kwasman (R) said. "It makes no mention of sexual orientation."

The fact-checking group -- a collaboration between the Arizona Republic, KPNX and Arizona State University's journalism school -- rated that statement "true." It reached that conclusion because the bill doesn't explicitly mention sexual orientation and Arizona law doesn't protect gay people through its anti-discrimination statute.

But right before its conclusion, the analysis noted that the bill's sponsors had outright said that the legislation was motivated in part by the case of a New Mexico wedding photographer who refused to provide services to a same-sex couple.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/arizona-anti-gay-fact-check

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Fact-Checkers Inexplicably Conclude Arizona's Anti-Gay Bill Isn't Anti-Gay (Original Post) Grassy Knoll Feb 2014 OP
Because it's alsame Feb 2014 #1
"...broad enough to justify discrimination against anyone, not just LGBT." Merlot Feb 2014 #7
Exactly. While an LGBT issue was alsame Feb 2014 #8
The blue sky is really not blue. RoverSuswade Feb 2014 #2
ASU is a fucking joke....run by a fundamentalist Mormon, Michael Crow..... msanthrope Feb 2014 #3
Of course it doesn't! And 2+2=5. Mark Regnerus is working at Arizona State U now?!?! blkmusclmachine Feb 2014 #4
Aww Sure..... Grassy Knoll Feb 2014 #5
Com'on, people, it's equal opportunity bigotry Jack Rabbit Feb 2014 #6
American, refusing American, refusing American... SoapBox Feb 2014 #9
okay then frylock Feb 2014 #10
And NYC's stop and frisk wasn't racist, either. Not on paper. Anybody need a bridge? marble falls Feb 2014 #11
Fact checking is BS. It's always just journalists who self-appoint. It's true for all fact checkers. Pterodactyl Feb 2014 #12
when a fact is not a fact maindawg Feb 2014 #13

alsame

(7,784 posts)
1. Because it's
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:37 PM
Feb 2014

broad enough to justify discrimination against anyone, not just LGBT.

Any person who is deemed offensive to the Christian Taliban could be discriminated against.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
7. "...broad enough to justify discrimination against anyone, not just LGBT."
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:29 PM
Feb 2014

And that's where the fun really starts! Just think, religoulous people can also discriminate against atheists, unmarried women, the poor, and anyone else who offends them...and that list is quite long.

edit: typos!

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
3. ASU is a fucking joke....run by a fundamentalist Mormon, Michael Crow.....
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 07:40 PM
Feb 2014
https://asunews.asu.edu/20130911-Poly-LDS-Institute

Really? Journalists making legal analysis never ends well.

A federal court will find animus, you miserable asshole "journalists." Why? Because you stood in the fucking legislature and talked about having to bake gays a cake. That's called "findings" you shitholes, and reasons why you miserable fuckers wrote the legislation. Somebody needs to depose these asshats.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
6. Com'on, people, it's equal opportunity bigotry
Wed Feb 26, 2014, 08:12 PM
Feb 2014

As long as you have sincerely held religious beliefs, he can discriminate. It is a true statement that the bill makes no mention of sexual orientation. So we should conclude it means anything.

If a couple comes into a diner in Arizona, perhaps they shouldn't expect to be served, at least not if they're of the same sex or a different race.

Perhaps that's OK. After all, they'll just go somewhere where business is done the American way and everybody is welcome. Meanwhile, the owner of the more discriminating diner who claims to be carrying a cross will take that cross out to a farm field and burn it.

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