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highplainsdem

(49,034 posts)
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 10:52 AM Feb 2014

Ariz. Lawmaker Who Voted For Anti-Gay Discrimination Bill Now Wants It Vetoed

Source: Talking Points Memo

The pressure is mounting on Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) to veto a disputed piece of legislation that would allow businesses to discriminate against LGBT individuals on the basis of religious freedom.

State Sen. Steve Pierce (R), who voted for the bill, now says it was a bad idea and wants to see the bill vetoed.

-snip-

The Republican lawmaker told the Prescott Daily Courier that he doesn't like the attention the bill has brought to the state, although he believes the purpose of the legislation has been misconstrued.

"I don't like the negative picture of Arizona, and I'm on board asking the governor to veto the bill," Pierce said.

-snip-

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/arizona_lawmaker_steve_pierce_veto_antigay_bill



He added that he has gay friends and "wouldn't do anything to hurt them."

Uh-huh...
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Ariz. Lawmaker Who Voted For Anti-Gay Discrimination Bill Now Wants It Vetoed (Original Post) highplainsdem Feb 2014 OP
Now he's starting to look bad, and he realizes the state will lose money shenmue Feb 2014 #1
Steve Pierce iandhr Feb 2014 #2
You're thinking of Russell Pearce, who lost his recall election in 2011 and his highplainsdem Feb 2014 #3
Different Prince gur Albert. . .same dick! Same pierce! Bad joke, I know, but seriously Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #16
Stupid idiot. Xyzse Feb 2014 #4
Read? Earth_First Feb 2014 #5
Tragic, and funny in a certain way. Xyzse Feb 2014 #10
Okay. Gay people want rights. We need to stop that. nine words, Mr. Pearce Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #18
Republicans don't need to read what's in a bill. amb123 Feb 2014 #9
He knew what he was doing... Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #24
Yeah, you're probably right Xyzse Feb 2014 #27
Yup, that's how I read it too. eom DeadLetterOffice Feb 2014 #30
Nailed it..... daleanime Feb 2014 #32
Would doctors and hospitals fall under this? HockeyMom Feb 2014 #6
Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #8
Hey 1StrongBlackMan, Scruffy Rumbler Feb 2014 #17
A local business owner ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2014 #19
Oh man, I bet he did get some angry and racist responses! Scruffy Rumbler Feb 2014 #21
And when a johovah's christx30 Feb 2014 #11
It's probably a simpler reason than what he's stating TlalocW Feb 2014 #7
My thoughts exactly.. giftedgirl77 Feb 2014 #31
"He believes the purpose of the legislation has been misconstrued" jsr Feb 2014 #12
"You mean businesses may lose money because of a stupid, bigoted bill I supported? Aristus Feb 2014 #13
Once again, the Republicans refuse to acknowledge, toddwv Feb 2014 #14
Uh. . .this guy makes me stomach churn. Him and that fruit loop Antenori in Vail Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #15
"I don't like Caeser67 Feb 2014 #20
Kinda Makes A Guy Edgy As He Must Fight The Urge To Gather Up Enough Paper To bkanderson76 Feb 2014 #22
Translation: "I've been busted and know I look like an asshole". riqster Feb 2014 #23
"Why can't you guys just leave us alone so we can be bigoted assholes without the spotlight on us." Arugula Latte Feb 2014 #25
Two more Republican Senators joined him in a letter to Gov Brewer dbackjon Feb 2014 #26
Arizona Christo-Nazis must be watching their AZ investments tank already. Zorra Feb 2014 #28
He says it's "getting blown all out of proportion." I say "What a load." He's only coming out catbyte Feb 2014 #29
hmmm perhaps he's realized that this bill could cost the state big bucks azurnoir Feb 2014 #33
Tucson resident here LittleGirl Feb 2014 #34
The GoP in Arizona is fucking nuts. Lobo27 Feb 2014 #35
Both Ccarmona Feb 2014 #36
I hope she passes it el scorcho Feb 2014 #37
Can't have your cake and eat it too. Fearless Feb 2014 #38
A good argument for a period of public commentary before knee-jerking merrily Feb 2014 #39
We already know the Arizona Republicans are full of hatred and have no human decency randr Feb 2014 #40
 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
16. Different Prince gur Albert. . .same dick! Same pierce! Bad joke, I know, but seriously
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:17 PM
Feb 2014

Those two are stomach gurgling.

Xyzse

(8,217 posts)
4. Stupid idiot.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:08 AM
Feb 2014

Why vote for it then?

Oh yeah, he's one of those who just looks at the length of the bill, reads a summary and votes for it without looking.
Maybe he doesn't even read the summary.

I forgot about that.

Earth_First

(14,910 posts)
5. Read?
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:16 AM
Feb 2014

Isn't that what staffers and interns are for?

"GIVE IT TO ME IN TEN WORDS OR LESS, GOD-DAMN IT!"

 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
18. Okay. Gay people want rights. We need to stop that. nine words, Mr. Pearce
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:18 PM
Feb 2014

Can I get my pay raise now?

BTW, not calling you him, but relating how that meeting went because I can see this troglodyte saying that!

amb123

(1,581 posts)
9. Republicans don't need to read what's in a bill.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:24 AM
Feb 2014

ALEC and the Koch Brothers "reads" bills for them!

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
24. He knew what he was doing...
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 01:15 PM
Feb 2014

He's just embarrassed because he underestimated the shitstorm of national attention...

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
6. Would doctors and hospitals fall under this?
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:18 AM
Feb 2014

Refuse to treat or save a gay person based on their religion? My husband's niece is gay and lives in Scotsdale.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
8. Yep ...
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:23 AM
Feb 2014

It "protects" anyone that wishes to express their christianity (small "C" intended) by acting bigotted.

Scruffy Rumbler

(961 posts)
17. Hey 1StrongBlackMan,
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:18 PM
Feb 2014

When ever I have heard someone arguing that side of the argument, I respond with My personal religion doesn't allow me to render aid to christians that are homophobic. So to be on the safe side of offending their god, I don't have to treat anybody that wears a cross or says "god bless you", right? After all, their god can heel anything.... if he chooses?" I can get behind this!



 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
19. A local business owner ...
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:24 PM
Feb 2014

who is a member of the Nation of Islam wrote a comment in my daily rags on-line comment section that he could wait for the law to go into effect, as he already has a sign printed indicating that he will refuse service to any Christian based on his strongly held religious beliefs ... You should have seen the angry (and racist) responses!

I know the guy ... we, both, got a good laugh out of it. But he is dead serious.

Scruffy Rumbler

(961 posts)
21. Oh man, I bet he did get some angry and racist responses!
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:30 PM
Feb 2014

It is amazing when you turn their own tactics back on them how pissed they get!

christx30

(6,241 posts)
11. And when a johovah's
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:29 AM
Feb 2014

witness refuses to give a blood transfusion to a member of the Christan Taliban, I can't wait to see the firestorm.

TlalocW

(15,391 posts)
7. It's probably a simpler reason than what he's stating
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:20 AM
Feb 2014

He just really like that pizza at that one place that says they have the right to refuse service to Arizona lawmakers.

TlalocW

Aristus

(66,462 posts)
13. "You mean businesses may lose money because of a stupid, bigoted bill I supported?
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 11:55 AM
Feb 2014

Gracious! What-EVER was I thinking?!? Veto!"

Putz...

toddwv

(2,830 posts)
14. Once again, the Republicans refuse to acknowledge,
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:05 PM
Feb 2014

it's not being "misconstrued."

People understand EXACTLY what this bill represents because the US has a long and sordid history in such matters and there are still several generations of Americans who experienced this mindset personally.

Caeser67

(156 posts)
20. "I don't like
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:26 PM
Feb 2014

the negative financial repercussions that will hurt Arizona, and I'm on board asking the governor to veto the bill," Pierce said.

Fixed.

Proceed.

bkanderson76

(266 posts)
22. Kinda Makes A Guy Edgy As He Must Fight The Urge To Gather Up Enough Paper To
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 12:41 PM
Feb 2014

tally up the wasted tax payer money this elected jerk incurred upon the state and proceed to stuff them down his throat.

 

dbackjon

(6,578 posts)
26. Two more Republican Senators joined him in a letter to Gov Brewer
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 01:23 PM
Feb 2014

Asking her to veto the bill they voted for.


This has already cost Arizona thousands of jobs.

catbyte

(34,447 posts)
29. He says it's "getting blown all out of proportion." I say "What a load." He's only coming out
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 02:31 PM
Feb 2014

against the law because of the blowback from coast to coast.

Cretin.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
33. hmmm perhaps he's realized that this bill could cost the state big bucks
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 04:47 PM
Feb 2014

in tourism and business as a boycott gathers steam

LittleGirl

(8,291 posts)
34. Tucson resident here
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:42 PM
Feb 2014

I don't think she's sign it, I think she'll veto it. Local news outlets have had video of protests in Flagstaff, Phoenix and Tucson over the weekend. Oh and if she doesn't nothing, it becomes law. I read she's going to wait until Friday but now that it's national news, I doubt she'll wait that long.

idiots.

Lobo27

(753 posts)
35. The GoP in Arizona is fucking nuts.
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 07:46 PM
Feb 2014

I think it was last year they tried to pass law that basically said if your brown you're fucked...

 

Ccarmona

(1,180 posts)
36. Both
Mon Feb 24, 2014, 08:00 PM
Feb 2014

AZ Senators have expressed their view that it should be vetoed.
The Super Bowl is scheduled for 2/1/2015 in Glendale, AZ and the NFL will surely move it if Brewer signs it.
The NFL wouldn't give Tempe the Super Bowl in the late 80s until the State approved the MLK Holiday, and I'm sure the Governor is feeling the same pressure now.

 

el scorcho

(58 posts)
37. I hope she passes it
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 12:15 AM
Feb 2014

not because I want to see state sponsored bigotry in my state but because the blowback will be so severe that it will be the best chance we have to get rid of the teabagger idiots we have in our legislature.

I've not come across one person in AZ who's for this nonsense.

Short term pain, long term gain.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
39. A good argument for a period of public commentary before knee-jerking
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 05:50 AM
Feb 2014

legislation.

Agency rules are easier to change than laws. Still, before an agency like the FDA or the FAA makes or changes rules, there is a period during which the public gets to comment on the proposed rule or amendment before the agency adopts or rejects it.

At the state law level, there is no reason why the public cannot be given notice of a bill and time to comment.

We have a couple of local TV channel devoted to televising city council meetings and things of interest to the city. Why can't there be a local cable channel like that for the state that would publicize impending legislation, with a brief summary of the bill and the pros and cons?

Of course, appropriate exceptions can be made for those occasions where emergency legislation is necessary ASAP, but those occasions should be relatively rare.

I imagine that there would be a lot of resistance to this, inasmuch as people who have power don't like fetters of any kind. Still, the only justification for the existence of legislators at our expense is that they are supposed to represent us. How can they pretend to be doing that if they never seek our voices?

Think I will email my state rep.


Meanwhile, this episode is more proof that RW memes seldom hold up to examination, even to examination by RWers.

randr

(12,414 posts)
40. We already know the Arizona Republicans are full of hatred and have no human decency
Tue Feb 25, 2014, 09:27 AM
Feb 2014

Now they show the world that they will compromise the twisted values they hold dear for fear of monetary retribution.
The image of them groveling only further paints them as heart sick and moral-less.

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