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Eugene

(61,900 posts)
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 09:02 PM Feb 2014

U.S. can keep Guantanamo hunger strikers alive by force: court

Source: Reuters

BY DAVID INGRAM
WASHINGTON Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:59pm EST

(Reuters) - A U.S. appeals court declined on Tuesday to halt the forced feeding of hunger strikers in Guantanamo Bay but ruled that the prisoners have the right to sue over the procedure and other aspects of how the U.S. military treats them.

The 2-1 decision by a panel of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit reversed two decisions by lower court judges. Those judges ruled last year that Congress had stripped them of the ability to hear lawsuits about conditions at the U.S. Navy military prison in Cuba.

Human rights advocates and many doctors call forced feeding a violation of personal liberty and medical ethics. Designed to keep hunger strikers alive, the procedure involves feeding them liquid meals via tubes inserted into their noses and down into their stomachs.

President Barack Obama has defended the practice at Guantanamo, telling a news conference last year, "I don't want these individuals to die."

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Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/02/11/us-usa-courts-guantanamo-idUSBREA1A28K20140211

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U.S. can keep Guantanamo hunger strikers alive by force: court (Original Post) Eugene Feb 2014 OP
That is so wrong. avebury Feb 2014 #1
They will die then yeoman6987 Feb 2014 #2
That is their choice, plain and simple. avebury Feb 2014 #3
Shockingly many or most of them have been adjudicated not guilty! grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #12
Indefensible. nt Mnemosyne Feb 2014 #4
There is no escape. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #5
forced feeding is TORTURE.... mike_c Feb 2014 #6
It's the Inquisition of the 21st Century warrant46 Feb 2014 #8
So is starving to death Freddie Stubbs Feb 2014 #14
no, that's a personal choice and a human right.... mike_c Feb 2014 #17
No according for US federal regulations: Freddie Stubbs Feb 2014 #20
Disgusting... Obama Promised to Close Gitmo...now Forced Feeding KoKo Feb 2014 #7
I wonder if this is on "The List" Doctor_J Feb 2014 #19
A disgusting assault on personal liberty. blackspade Feb 2014 #9
K&R Solly Mack Feb 2014 #10
Open the f-ing doors and set them free. Close the base. Let their relatives pick them up. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #11
Your life (or death) is not your own... SoapBox Feb 2014 #13
Shameful and disgusting that we are still torturing prisoners. nt DLevine Feb 2014 #15
Good god. woo me with science Feb 2014 #16
What is so wrong here is their right to trial lovuian Feb 2014 #18
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
2. They will die then
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 09:35 PM
Feb 2014

President Obama is for this practice. They are still getting their information out to the masses.

avebury

(10,952 posts)
3. That is their choice, plain and simple.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 09:43 PM
Feb 2014

Edit to add - It is the right of any person to refuse treatment, medical or food & water. To me what they are doing is a human rights violation because the methodology they will most certainly not be humane. It was wrong when the did it to the suffragettes, it was wrong when they did it to the IRA prisoners, and it is wrong in this case.

I have a problem with indefinite detention because we should be required to prove in a court of law that the prisoners have broken a law. How do we know that all the people being held are guilty of war crimes? How do we know that some of the prisoners weren't turned in by people with personal beefs with them or because the "snitch" found it a profitable line of business? What has been done at Guantanamo Bay could easily occur in this country at some point in time as local governments develop more militarized police forces and our rights continue to be stripped away. If we don't demand a certain criminal justice process for the worst amongst who will be there to fight for our rights when the time comes?

mike_c

(36,281 posts)
6. forced feeding is TORTURE....
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:10 PM
Feb 2014

Still torturing our prisoners, dammit. I thought Obama was going to put a stop to that. Along with closing the damned embarrassment down, of course.

warrant46

(2,205 posts)
8. It's the Inquisition of the 21st Century
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:27 PM
Feb 2014

History is going to Judge the Prison at Guantánamo very very harshly.

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
7. Disgusting... Obama Promised to Close Gitmo...now Forced Feeding
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 10:23 PM
Feb 2014

is the way he deals with detainees (who have been declared not Terrorist Threats) who have NO HOPE and just want to die...because they know they will never get OUT OF THERE!

They have the CHOICE over their LIVES...when all HOPE is EXHAUSTED...to END IT!

Force Feeding is Cruel and Inhumane Punishment.

It's Disgusting...that this is going on when we were promised with our vote that GITMO would END.

blackspade

(10,056 posts)
9. A disgusting assault on personal liberty.
Tue Feb 11, 2014, 11:50 PM
Feb 2014

Preventing hunger strikes serves a political purpose, to deflect attention from the ongoing detention of people who have been held without charge for over 10 years.
A gross violation of due process.

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
11. Open the f-ing doors and set them free. Close the base. Let their relatives pick them up.
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 01:44 AM
Feb 2014

If there's a will, there's a way.

lovuian

(19,362 posts)
18. What is so wrong here is their right to trial
Wed Feb 12, 2014, 03:28 PM
Feb 2014

is denied them
writ of habeas corpus, a procedural device to force the courts to examine the lawfulness of a prisoner's detention.

and I really am not happy they are placing our military in such a terrible position

We have no problem enacting the death penalty once a guilty verdict is made on US citizens
look at Texas


there is no getting around this whole ordeal its torture

and I am so disappointed in Obama not keeping his promise

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