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my2sense

(2,645 posts)
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 01:55 PM Mar 2012

After a Long, Heated Exchange Gov. Christie Calls Vet an "Idiot"

Source: NBC

Governor Chris Christie mixed it up with a Rutgers University law student at one of his signature town hall-style events in Florence Township, N.J on Thursday.

Christie got into a heated exchange with 34-year-old William Brown, who is unhappy with the governor's plan to merge Rutgers University's Camden law school with Rowan University.

The exchange began when the former Navy Seal questioned the governor's plan to merge the two South Jersey schools. It ended with the governor berating the Mount Laurel man, who attends Rutgers-Camden and interrupted Christie several times before being escorted out.

The governor said, ``Let me tell you something, after you graduate from law school, you conduct yourself like that in a courtroom, your rear end's going to be thrown in jail, idiot.''

Read more: http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/-Gov-Christie-Calls-Ex-Navy-Seal-an-Idiot-142069993.html



The video is a must see. Can you imagine this man in the WH?
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After a Long, Heated Exchange Gov. Christie Calls Vet an "Idiot" (Original Post) my2sense Mar 2012 OP
I can't believe anyone thinks this buffoon will ever be on any Presidential ticket. onehandle Mar 2012 #1
while he's going to give hilary a run for her money in 2016. n/t. okieinpain Mar 2012 #5
Buffoon is a good description Rosa Luxemburg Mar 2012 #10
He doesn't have the temperment to lead a nation. nanabugg Mar 2012 #30
I dislike the guy obamanut2012 Mar 2012 #41
He doesn't have the health proud2BlibKansan Mar 2012 #61
Does anyone else sharp_stick Mar 2012 #2
What a rude SOB. I don't think he live long enough to see the white house in 2016. southernyankeebelle Mar 2012 #3
That's just because Spirochete Mar 2012 #4
This guy is just a ... ... bayareaboy Mar 2012 #6
By 2016... dennis4868 Mar 2012 #7
Someone should billybob537 Mar 2012 #8
Why a Redwood? Do they have redwoods in New Jersey? patrice Mar 2012 #14
becouse its a BIG tree billybob537 Mar 2012 #21
Interesting choice, given other BIGs that could have been at least as relevant as a redwood > patrice Mar 2012 #27
Do you find redwood trees less appropriate in this case than cell phone towers? Lasher Mar 2012 #31
I find cell-phone towers more directly relevant to the subject at hand: Chris Christie & why we patrice Mar 2012 #35
That doesn't make any sense. Lasher Mar 2012 #39
Sissy don't play that game. You can google it. nt patrice Mar 2012 #43
yeah, but they are the wrong size... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2012 #47
It's NJ - wouldn't it be a loblolly pine? n/t woodsprite Mar 2012 #23
Oh, but the words "loblolly pine" do not contain the word "wood". nt patrice Mar 2012 #28
Are you a tree-hugger? An environmental activist? patrice Mar 2012 #15
Or is there some other part of this metaphor that applies to what happened to this citizen? patrice Mar 2012 #16
hello? hello? patrice Mar 2012 #19
That gambit of pretending to talk with/listen to you, but taking ALL of the TINY little bit of time patrice Mar 2012 #9
Christie is a ann--- Mar 2012 #11
The Seal's lucky the Gub didn't try to eat him. Roland99 Mar 2012 #12
The video is incomplete Islandlife Mar 2012 #13
Very very interesting point. Hypotheses, anyone? patrice Mar 2012 #17
The clip looks like clips my2sense Mar 2012 #18
Absolutely. There is NO excuse for it. He's wildly out of line, and should be called on it. n/t Judi Lynn Mar 2012 #25
censored - who cares what the 'little' people think got root Mar 2012 #59
It doesn't matter how the guy behaved BlueStater Mar 2012 #63
Ummmmmmmmm a Navy Seal Iliyah Mar 2012 #20
Republicans will only respect a certain type of veteran bluestateguy Mar 2012 #22
They support the troops Lasher Mar 2012 #33
Support the troops The Wizard Mar 2012 #56
Who served? Lasher Mar 2012 #58
All that bluster The Wizard Mar 2012 #67
"Damn, man, I'm GOVERNOR...can you just shut up a bit?" hamsterjill Mar 2012 #24
Christie is just a bloated version of Limbaugh. Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #26
"bloated version of Limbaugh CanonRay Mar 2012 #29
HAH!!!! blm Mar 2012 #37
Moby Dickless Tom Ripley Mar 2012 #32
He is just an angry frustrated man because he can't find/reach his. Auntie Bush Mar 2012 #45
Christie is an asshole bitchkitty Mar 2012 #34
+1...how've you been, BK? awoke_in_2003 Mar 2012 #48
Sick, baby bitchkitty Mar 2012 #60
Hope you feel better... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2012 #66
Henry Rowan is a big republican donor looking to buy name recognition LynneSin Mar 2012 #36
You mean The University of Michigan a2liberal Mar 2012 #40
George Norcross not Henry Rowan ahostett Mar 2012 #44
He'll never be president - there are too many moments like this. polichick Mar 2012 #38
William Brown has done more for the this country than chris christie ever has SemperEadem Mar 2012 #42
This is About More than a Rude Governor Patrick Cox Mar 2012 #46
When I think of people.... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2012 #49
This guy was serving his country while Christie was living to excess RFKHumphreyObama Mar 2012 #50
Christie should just stick to bus disposal. lonestarnot Mar 2012 #51
Well at least he is not a big fat idiot. yellowcanine Mar 2012 #52
Smells like burning bacon Julian Englis Mar 2012 #53
I didn't get to see the "heated exchange" because it wasn't on the video. But, it seemed IndyJones Mar 2012 #54
Just a big-mouthed bully NICO9000 Mar 2012 #55
Christie is a foolish governor agentS Mar 2012 #57
Christie acts like an adult aaaaaa5a Mar 2012 #62
A number of people are focusing on the "vet" aspect of this, hughee99 Mar 2012 #64
Christie was a lobbyist and a Bush fundraiser - that is why he got the DA job underpants Mar 2012 #65
The lifelong fat tend to go two ways...asshole or class clown. Christie went the former. NoodleyAppendage Mar 2012 #68

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
1. I can't believe anyone thinks this buffoon will ever be on any Presidential ticket.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:03 PM
Mar 2012

He makes Cheney look civil and classy.

 

nanabugg

(2,198 posts)
30. He doesn't have the temperment to lead a nation.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 04:27 PM
Mar 2012

I don't dislike the buy but he thinks more highly of himself than he ought.

sharp_stick

(14,400 posts)
2. Does anyone else
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:04 PM
Mar 2012

get the urge to hit the TV whenever Christie is on it?

I think I would viscerally enjoy shoving his teeth down his throat, he's such a smarmy shithead.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
3. What a rude SOB. I don't think he live long enough to see the white house in 2016.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:04 PM
Mar 2012

He'll have a heart attack because he is so mean.

bayareaboy

(793 posts)
6. This guy is just a ... ...
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:27 PM
Mar 2012

RePUG idea of Ralph Cramden.

I mean we all like Ralph Cramden but most folks like his ability to soften himself up. RePUGs seem to think that wrong with that and would like Christie to be mean to the extreme.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
27. Interesting choice, given other BIGs that could have been at least as relevant as a redwood >
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 04:04 PM
Mar 2012

- BIG cell-phone tower, for instance, relative to his invasion of privacy/"wire"-tapping and entrapment history.
- Super-sized subpoena, for his lucrative selective use of deferred prosecution arrangements.

...........................

I think citizens should be aware of how their posts here can cast negative &, on the average, damaging allusions upon certain groups who are struggling for their Civil Rights, such as the LGBTQ community. We have no way of knowing whether allusions are intentional or not, so we must rely upon individual awareness, conscience, honesty, and autonomous action which, of course, applies to ALL of us here.




Lasher

(27,598 posts)
31. Do you find redwood trees less appropriate in this case than cell phone towers?
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 04:45 PM
Mar 2012

I don't understand what you are saying. And how did this inspire you to lecture about civil rights?

patrice

(47,992 posts)
35. I find cell-phone towers more directly relevant to the subject at hand: Chris Christie & why we
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 05:33 PM
Mar 2012

might have more substantive grounds to disagree with his politics than just that he is a fat ill-mannered person.

Lasher

(27,598 posts)
39. That doesn't make any sense.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 06:29 PM
Mar 2012

Why is it more appropriate to stick a cell phone tower up Christie's ass than it would be to use a redwood tree? You say towers are more relevant. Please help me understand why that could be. To me it looks like you are trying to goad billybob537 into a fight over this and I honestly don't understand where you are coming from.

From reading some of your other replies in this thread I suspect you might be upset about some kind of slur against gays or fat people but I don't see it. You are saying we should focus on Christie's policies and not on his stature as a fat ill-mannered person. But I believe you are the first who mentioned or implied in this thread that he is overweight.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
9. That gambit of pretending to talk with/listen to you, but taking ALL of the TINY little bit of time
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:29 PM
Mar 2012

you have in an extremely controlled situation, is a LIE and when you try to do anything about it, like being more aggressive about what your question is, or by reacting to what Christie's "answer" is, YOU are the one at fault. Christie proved this with TTE "I'm governor; you listen to me" and by trying to demonize this citizen, rather than seek some mutual point of understanding.

Christie is quite full of himself, isn't he? he, he, he . . .

Another narcissistic fascist Palinesque mediocrity getting by on money and bullying.

 

ann---

(1,933 posts)
11. Christie is a
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:33 PM
Mar 2012

rude, obnoxious man trying to compensate for his horrible appearance. He's just what the GOP loves. Heaven help us.

Islandlife

(212 posts)
13. The video is incomplete
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 02:48 PM
Mar 2012

Watching the video, I can't tell whether or not Christie's response was warranted. Can you?

my2sense

(2,645 posts)
18. The clip looks like clips
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 03:02 PM
Mar 2012

But whatever the case, there is NO TIME a elected official should behave in such a manner.

BlueStater

(7,596 posts)
63. It doesn't matter how the guy behaved
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 02:29 PM
Mar 2012

Christie is a politician and should be prepared for situations like these. The fact that one person in the audience got him angry enough that he resorted to yelling, name-calling, and minor profanity ("damn&quot doesn't make him look professional at all. And this guy is being touted as being presidential material? You think Obama would have reacted this way if this happened to him?

What happens if Christie becomes president (terrifying, I know) and Vladimir Putin gets him angry? Does he call him a jerkoff and yell and swear at him?

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
22. Republicans will only respect a certain type of veteran
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 03:12 PM
Mar 2012

He has to meet all of their standards:

Conservative, very militaristic in foreign policy, fundamentalist Christian, crew cut, heterosexual, married to a woman, with children.

If he doesn't fit into all of those checkboxes, then such veterans will be treated about as respectfully as Max Cleland and John Kerry.

Lasher

(27,598 posts)
33. They support the troops
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 05:14 PM
Mar 2012

but not the vets.

Hell, they don't even support active duty soldiers. Support the troops! was heard loud and long during the GWB years. This jingoistic slogan is easily translated into Don't question Junior's wars!

Has anybody else noticed that Republicans stopped chanting Support the troops! ever since Obama became Commander in Chief?

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
56. Support the troops
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 09:05 AM
Mar 2012

was code for support Bush's military aggression. They like to hide behind the troops. That's why the loudest ones never put on the green suit, boots and steel pot and picked up an M-16.
Punks by any other name. There are no tough guys in the NDP(night defensive position). Imagine Christie in an NDP.

Lasher

(27,598 posts)
58. Who served?
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 10:24 AM
Mar 2012

I suppose you must have seen this before:

http://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html

Most of the neocons didn't serve. In most cases nobody in their dynasties did either.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
24. "Damn, man, I'm GOVERNOR...can you just shut up a bit?"
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 03:14 PM
Mar 2012

That's the part that bugged the shit outta me. Sounds way too much like Rick Perry.

The "I'm governor so I'm better than you" stuff is disgusting to me. It's more "you are governor and you WORK for me" in my opinion.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
26. Christie is just a bloated version of Limbaugh.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 03:23 PM
Mar 2012

That fat fuck wouldn't even be able to outwalk Mr Brown, let alone outargue him.

What is funny is his comment about conduct in a courtroom.
Christie thinks he is a judge with the final say.
However, we had 2 colleges merged by an idiot asshat Republican many years ago.
And that decision was reversed by a much smarter Democrat just a few years later.

Christie's reasons for merging those 2 schools are flawed.
And the people of New Jersey will come to see that in the near future.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
45. He is just an angry frustrated man because he can't find/reach his.
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 10:34 PM
Mar 2012

IThe little fat thingie wiggles all around and makes a mess...so he has a good reason to be angry.

bitchkitty

(7,349 posts)
34. Christie is an asshole
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 05:32 PM
Mar 2012

but it really brings me down to see the weight-related insults in this thread. I'm a skinny minnie, but there are lots of big people in my family, and it's as insulting to me to see fat jokes or comments about a person's weight, as it is to see racial comments or sexist jokes.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
66. Hope you feel better...
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 07:30 PM
Mar 2012

the only sickness I have had lately is fountain pens and fountain pen ink- I can't stop buying them. I got the granddaughter interested so grandma will let me buy more

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
36. Henry Rowan is a big republican donor looking to buy name recognition
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 05:39 PM
Mar 2012

Rowan University is a Division III school that is barely known outside the state of New Jersey.

Rutgers University is a Divsion I school that is known throughout the country.

Henry Rowan, who Rowan University is named after because he donated 100million to Glassboro State School, wants to increase the prestiege of the school. Rutgers Law School isn't Harvard but it's a respectful and highly rated Law School. Mind you Rutgers School of Law has locations in both Newark and Camden - that's handy for those who have to work their way thru school that they could attend the Law School closest to their home. The Camden Law school also gets alot of students from over in Philadelphia.

In a nutshell, what I see is a filthy rich man who is trying to buy more name recognition. Adding the Law School in Camden would do that but probably piss off the entire state of New Jersey. Rutgers is to New Jersey like any State named school is to their respective state (ie Penn State University to Pennsylvania or Michigan University is to Michigan). People want the Rutgers name not the Rowan name.

If Christie does this he will seal his fate as a one-term governor of New Jersey.

ahostett

(22 posts)
44. George Norcross not Henry Rowan
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 10:19 PM
Mar 2012

Thanks for filling in the background issue that William Brown is fighting so passionately for.

Yes, Chris Christie appears willing to force through an unprecedented takeover of Rutgers University-Camden, a research university of about 6,000 students by the public teaching college known now as Rowan University. Although Henry Rowan, a wealthy industrialist, was instrumental in getting the name changed from Glassboro State College, he is not, AFAIK, a player in the current takeover debacle. That role is being played by Democratic Party boss and South Jersey power broker (and Christie donor & ally) George Norcross III, who is on the board of directors of the struggling Cooper-Rowan medical school and who wants to puff up Rowan (and his own financial and political interests) at the cost of the Rutgers University system.

It's crazy situation, and one we're fighting as best and as strongly as we can. To help us with our petition or our campaign to stop this unprecedented attack on public higher education, please come to our websites, listed below

http://www.saverutgerscamden.org/
http://www.r2rmerge/

PS) I'm a longtime lurker at DU and an assistant professor at RUC. Just a note to clarify also, that we do not disrespect Rowan University--we hate the idea of a state-mandated forcible takeover. Rowan does quite well in its own educational mission but it is not the same as nor is it compatible with the mission of Rutgers-Camden.

SemperEadem

(8,053 posts)
42. William Brown has done more for the this country than chris christie ever has
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 08:19 PM
Mar 2012

or ever will. He's put on a uniform and defended this country. christie hasn't.

end of story.

Patrick Cox

(1 post)
46. This is About More than a Rude Governor
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 11:12 PM
Mar 2012

The real story here is what the Navy Seal was objecting to.

Christie is attempted to dismantle higher ed in New Jersey, beginning with New Jersey. He is attempting to shut down the Rutgers-Camden campus and hand over its assets to some political cronies who have some bad debt. It will be disastrous for higher ed in south Jersey, and bad for NJ over all.

Brown is not the only one Christie tries to silence here. Pollsters declared this "Christie's least popular idea ever" after it got 22% approval in polls statewide, and 56% opposition. In south Jersey, where Rutgers-Camden in, 71% oppose it.

Much more info can be found here, along with 11,000 signatures on a petition to stop this insane idea. Feel free to add your own. http://www.r2rmerge.com/

And even more infor and ways to help here: http://www.saverutgerscamden.org/

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
49. When I think of people....
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 11:17 PM
Mar 2012

that I want to call an idiot to their face, Seals are WAY down the list. I enjoy not getting the crap kicked out of me.

RFKHumphreyObama

(15,164 posts)
50. This guy was serving his country while Christie was living to excess
Fri Mar 9, 2012, 11:27 PM
Mar 2012

What a pathetic excuse for a human being Christie is. I hope he gets crushed if he decides to run for re-election next year

IndyJones

(1,068 posts)
54. I didn't get to see the "heated exchange" because it wasn't on the video. But, it seemed
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 02:18 AM
Mar 2012

immature of him to continue talking at the guy and call him an idiot when he was walking out, when the discussion had ended. And then to say, "I'm governor" seemed like he has a pretty high opinion of himself there.

agentS

(1,325 posts)
57. Christie is a foolish governor
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 10:17 AM
Mar 2012

The plan is bad, just admit it Christie.

Pissing off the vets and annoying hundreds of voting age adults is NOT going to get you re-elected.

But hey, be hard-headed like always. See what happens!

The crooked hedge fund guy actually was the better choice in the end.

aaaaaa5a

(4,667 posts)
62. Christie acts like an adult
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 11:27 AM
Mar 2012

Who as a kid was picked on a lot. And now as an adult he has power for the first time and is exacting revenge on society. The man is a pompous gerk!

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
64. A number of people are focusing on the "vet" aspect of this,
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 04:46 PM
Mar 2012

but as it relates to the argument, I don't understand how this makes any difference. The guy was a former navy seal, but that doesn't make his opinion of the merger any more or less valid does it?

underpants

(182,837 posts)
65. Christie was a lobbyist and a Bush fundraiser - that is why he got the DA job
Sat Mar 10, 2012, 04:56 PM
Mar 2012

he had never been in court and I am not sure that he ever has been.

NoodleyAppendage

(4,619 posts)
68. The lifelong fat tend to go two ways...asshole or class clown. Christie went the former.
Sun Mar 11, 2012, 01:07 AM
Mar 2012

Christie projects his self-loathing onto the outside world and people. Deep inside he's an angry kid still pissed about being fat, excluded and unpopular.

J

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