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mahatmakanejeeves

(57,664 posts)
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 02:44 PM Jan 2014

Missing For 112 Years, First Porsche Is Found In Warehouse

Source: National Public Radio and Porsche

Even the famed German automaker concedes that it "may resemble an old horse-drawn carriage."

But the recently rediscovered "first Porsche in the world" — dubbed the P1 — was a technological marvel for its time. It "included a compact electric drive weighing 286 pounds," writes the automotive newssite Jalopnik, and could chug along at 22 mph.

The car was found, according to Porsche, in an Austrian warehouse where it had apparently been left untouched since 1902.



Read more: http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/01/29/268186276/missing-for-112-years-first-porsche-is-found-in-warehouse



And it's electric!

I have to admit that when I saw that there had been a Porsche barn find, I was expecting something a little ... different. At least it has an air-cooled rear engine. Purists can breathe a sigh of relief.

Important edit: No, it does not have a rear engine. The engine's in the front, and the rear wheels are steered. Sacrilege!

The First Porsche in the World - the Return of the "P1"

The Egger-Lohner C.2 electric vehicle

The first Lohner electric vehicle developed with the help of Ferdinand Porsche was presented in 1898 at an exhibition for the newly founded Austrian Automobile Club. With an electric motor installed transversely between the front wheels and steered rear wheels, this electric vehicle was still far from being ready for series production. The vehicle concept was discarded and other test vehicles were built - this time in line with the ideas developed by young Ferdinand Porsche, who favoured front wheel stub axle steering and the electric motor at the rear of a Lohner carriage. The result of Ferdinand Porsche's vision, the Egger-Lohner C.2 electric vehicle, rolled onto the streets of Vienna for the first time on June 26, 1898, and Ferdinand Porsche made sure that he would take credit for the vehicle's design in a most unusual manner: He engraved the code P1 (P for Porsche, number 1) onto all of the key components, thus giving the vehicle its unofficial name.


Porsche's First Car Found After Being Left In A Shed For 112 Years
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Missing For 112 Years, First Porsche Is Found In Warehouse (Original Post) mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2014 OP
what a story! grasswire Jan 2014 #1
Cool! Porsche has come a long way. adirondacker Jan 2014 #2
That newer model does a better job of keeping bugs out of one's teeth. Orrex Jan 2014 #4
I often wondered why any motorcyclist would want to ride without a helmet and face shield. :) adirondacker Jan 2014 #5
Free protein. AtheistCrusader Jan 2014 #7
I ride with a 3/4 helmet... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #8
I used to ride with a 3/4 lid when I was younger and have unpleasant memories of getting smacked adirondacker Jan 2014 #9
I have a touch of claustrapobia... awoke_in_2003 Jan 2014 #10
I fortunately don't have a problem with claustrophobia, but can understand where that can come into adirondacker Jan 2014 #12
Amazing engineering for a 22 year old. House of Roberts Jan 2014 #3
Porsche by Design at NC Museum of Art unc70 Jan 2014 #6
Turns out the valets borrowed it for a while ThoughtCriminal Jan 2014 #11
neat! Puzzledtraveller Jan 2014 #13
Most cars were electric back then but... Heather MC Jan 2014 #14
nice stance frylock Jan 2014 #15
umm. kinda looks like santa's sled with big wheels. riversedge Jan 2014 #16
Seinfeld should use it next time he picks up a comedian jakeXT Jan 2014 #17
Ha! That was fun. Thanks for posting. nt adirondacker Jan 2014 #20
Must have rode like a wagon with those low profile tires. bluedigger Jan 2014 #18
Cool story! n/t tammywammy Jan 2014 #19
At least it doesn't resemble a Beetle. flvegan Jan 2014 #21
Engine's still in the back. Octafish Jan 2014 #22
 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
8. I ride with a 3/4 helmet...
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 03:29 PM
Jan 2014

and put a face shield on only when cold. I also keep my mouth closed while riding

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
9. I used to ride with a 3/4 lid when I was younger and have unpleasant memories of getting smacked
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 03:41 PM
Jan 2014

in the face at 70 with a variety of beetles that take up their residence here. I rode a KLR 650 a few years ago and the first thing I invested in was a Shoei Multitec. The bugs up here are ruthless and any distractions are fatal when watching for deer.

I could see riding in the desert without one though.

 

awoke_in_2003

(34,582 posts)
10. I have a touch of claustrapobia...
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 03:48 PM
Jan 2014

I have tried many times to buy a full face. I try one on, but before I can even strap it I have to take it off. I may see if hypnotherapy can fix that.

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
12. I fortunately don't have a problem with claustrophobia, but can understand where that can come into
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:08 PM
Jan 2014

play. One of the problems I had with cheaper helmets was the peripheral vision. The Multitec was extremely comfortable with excellent visibility and cooling. You can also flip the chin guard up when resting. To me it was more of a comfort thing. I can't stand to wear hats, even in winter. I've tried several helmets out, and the Shoei was the only one that was comfortable for me. With that said, different helmets fit different faces.

House of Roberts

(5,189 posts)
3. Amazing engineering for a 22 year old.
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 03:04 PM
Jan 2014

I've owned Porsches for 32 years. A book by Karl Ludvigsen, Excellence was Expected, tells about Ferdinand Porsche's early stint at Lohner, where he also built a very early gas-electric hybrid, with electric motors in the wheel hubs. He designed a two wheel drive and a four wheel drive version of the hybrid.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
14. Most cars were electric back then but...
Wed Jan 29, 2014, 04:14 PM
Jan 2014

Gasoline won out, even though gas powered cars were dirtier and louder. imagine if electric powered cars had won

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
22. Engine's still in the back.
Thu Jan 30, 2014, 11:27 AM
Jan 2014

Der Balanz.

Edit: Took the Doctor's P2 to realize they had it correct the first time, they just changed D to R.

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