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AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 11:19 AM Jan 2014

HIV-positive college student secretly filmed sex tapes with 32 people: police

Source: NYDN

An HIV positive college student could have knowingly infected more than 30 people with the deadly virus while secretly filming their sex romps on his laptop, police said.
Michael Johnson, 22, was charged with exposing sexual partners to HIV back in October but prosecutors just announced Thursday that a police investigation uncovered the incriminating videos, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch reported.


"On that laptop were 32 videos that depicted different individuals engaged in sexual acts with Mr. Johnson," St. Charles County prosecutor Tim Lohmar told local station KMOV.
Most of the 32 sex tapes were recorded in his dorm room at Lindenwood University in St. Charles, Mo.




Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/hiv-positive-college-student-secretly-filmed-sex-tapes-32-people-police-article-1.1584962



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HIV-positive college student secretly filmed sex tapes with 32 people: police (Original Post) AngryAmish Jan 2014 OP
:( shenmue Jan 2014 #1
Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #2
I like how you put "victims" in quotes like that TheSarcastinator Jan 2014 #3
Wow Android3.14 Jan 2014 #6
This part, right under the headline in the linked article MNBrewer Jan 2014 #7
who cares TheSarcastinator Jan 2014 #8
And he should not have knowingly exposed them. uppityperson Jan 2014 #10
I've heard this one before, 20 years ago..... Avalux Jan 2014 #4
There was one "gentleman" in Indy a couple years back ... Myrina Jan 2014 #5
I've seen this behavior in many countries cosmicone Jan 2014 #9
This story sucks even if the ass didn't have an STD (HIV at that). glowing Jan 2014 #11
thank you for your writing and your thoughts babydollhead Jan 2014 #21
Thank you for reading it. Sometimes I set back and read posts glowing Jan 2014 #22
Prosecutor requests that anyone who may have had an intimate relationship w/Johnson contact them tomm2thumbs Jan 2014 #12
Lindenwood is a great university, despite this smear on its reputation. joanbarnes Jan 2014 #13
Lee Daniels, director of "Precious" and "The Butler", went there. alp227 Jan 2014 #20
Post removed Post removed Jan 2014 #14
That is not actually true. LisaL Jan 2014 #15
A lot of states have laws against knowingly concealing HIV status Rob H. Jan 2014 #16
If you know you have hepatis or syphilis or HIV Yo_Mama Jan 2014 #17
And this thread is bringing out the ugly. Two hidden, victim-blaming posts. nt alp227 Jan 2014 #19
condoms break The Straight Story Jan 2014 #18

Response to AngryAmish (Original post)

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
3. I like how you put "victims" in quotes like that
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 11:43 AM
Jan 2014

it says so much about you.

And on edit, 'cuz I'm still pissed: you do realize that your attitude is the same reason HIV patients had such a hard time getting fair treatment during the beginning and rise of the epidemic, right? That bigots, jerkoffs and virulent homphobes around the world said it is was "their fault" for contracting the virus?

Shame on you.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
6. Wow
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 11:54 AM
Jan 2014

What part of the article said the videos depicted his "victims" (I have to say, that bit with the parenthesis is vile) as having unprotected sex?
Hint. It doesn't.
And even if the article explicitly stated that, are you saying that Johnson is innocent because when people make bad decisions in the heat of passion they deserve whatever happens afterwards?

MNBrewer

(8,462 posts)
7. This part, right under the headline in the linked article
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 11:58 AM
Jan 2014

"Michael Johnson, 22, was charged with exposing sexual partners to HIV in October. Police announced Thursday they uncovered videos — likely filmed in secret — that allegedly show Johnson having unprotected sex with various people he met through social media."

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/hiv-positive-college-student-secretly-filmed-sex-tapes-32-people-police-article-1.1584962#ixzz2qxGNNAjA

TheSarcastinator

(854 posts)
8. who cares
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:00 PM
Jan 2014

You're still blaming the victim. Your pathetic justifications are a dog that won't hunt.

But hey, you carry on there, brave social critic. YOU get to decide who is a victim and who isn't, dotncha?

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
10. And he should not have knowingly exposed them.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:08 PM
Jan 2014

"The St. Charles Police Department believes that his sex partners did not know that he had the virus or that their actions were being filmed."

Could be the "victims", to use your quote, may have asked and he said he didn't. Yes, they were stupid to have unprotected sex but good god. He had sex with them KNOWING he was HIV+.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
4. I've heard this one before, 20 years ago.....
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 11:45 AM
Jan 2014

My work at that time was in HIV clinical research with the DOD. An active duty HIV positive male purposefully exposed a number of sex partners to the virus; he went before a court martial, was found guilty and went to jail for a very long time.

I've had many HIV positive patients who engaged in risky sexual behavior...a lot of times it's a symptom of mental illness, plus there's a lot of denial that goes on as well. Especially if asymptomatic.

Really sad.

Myrina

(12,296 posts)
5. There was one "gentleman" in Indy a couple years back ...
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 11:51 AM
Jan 2014

... I think the total ended up being 6 or 7 women he knowingly exposed to HIV.
Was 'mad' at women for giving him HIV & wanted 'payback' (on other entirely random women he hooked up with using online dating).

Fucker is, I believe, serving a very long sentence now.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
9. I've seen this behavior in many countries
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:06 PM
Jan 2014

When they get diagnosed, they get pissed off at the world and want to bring the whole world down with them. Utterly psychopathic.

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
11. This story sucks even if the ass didn't have an STD (HIV at that).
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:17 PM
Jan 2014

Why do people do such destructive things to other people? If you know you have an STD (especially HPV or HIV), you should have the sense to give your partner the option of sleeping with you and in the most protected manner. Thankfully, these diseases aren't a death sentence anymore. But they aren't curable.

We need better mental health services to coincide with all other medical issues. We need a more compassionate society. And we really should teach our children that using people or inserting control over a sexual partner is destructive.

I'll admit that I've had a couple of 1 nite stands, heat of the moment, a little tipsy hook ups in my college years. Thankfully, I always made sure to have condoms with me so that my spur of the moment decision to engage in an unsafe sexual situation. And back in the late 90's early 00's, my college Univ in South Carolina had a partnership with the state health dept. All men and women were encouraged to get yearly exams and tests; they also provide FREE (yes, I said free) birth control for the year (13 packs). When we were graduating, most of us ladies made an April appt so that we could get another free year of birth control. Hopefully, within the year, we would find a job with benefits of our own. Parents insurance stopped upon graduation completion. It was really important to have those freebies! Paying out of pocket for birth control without insurance was expensive $50 - $80/ pack. Even with insurance, it was still considered a premium/ non-generic; so it would cost $15 - $30, depending on the insurance prescription plan. Is it a free or generic cost now? I haven't taken it in a number of years now.

Anyway, I birdwalked again. I'm glad that this was caught before more unsuspecting people were targeted and potentially harmed. I think it's past time that we start giving comprehensive sexual education talks for our young people. It is incomprehensive to me to think that young people aren't using condoms for protection. That was and still is one item I, and my friends, my age, never took lightly.

It seems to me when I talk to those who are younger than myself; teen and younger 20's, they aren't taking precautions into protecting themselves. And apparently a "birth control" method seems to be having anal sex. Perhaps it's just living in FL in my area that it's like this more, but it seems that sex is very flippant. Marriages are someone you live and go home to; cheating is almost expected. And if you do have a long term marriage, you are older or transplanted recently. And from what I hear and see from these women of varying ages is that sex is a means to some sort of status and "ensnaring/ entrapping" a male. Many women I know are in the marriage they are because of a pregnancy that they purposely planned because of the man they wanted to keep around; and if they aren't married, they will have child support to help them live a certain lifestyle. Or I see women giving into men whatever they think the man likes to be sexually satisfied. They don't seem sexually satisfied. And while I've been with very few FL men, the ones that were supposedly "good guys" and say they like to please a woman, have very limited ideas on what is pleasing and not pleasing for me. And having directional input was almost foreign to them - and I find this true of those who I speak to about these types of topics. It's very use - use types of situations I'm seeing. It's unhealthy.

So, when I mean sex education, I mean more than just the basic putting condoms on a banana. People need input on healthy relationships with one another. The idea of a living relationship vs a controlling and manipulative relationship. And they need easier access to getting tested, getting birth control items (spermicides, dental dams, condoms, birth control , etc - I wish we could have some Pharma companies figure out a "pill" for men to take as a birth control), and we need relationship talks/ mental health services.

I try to explain to my son, even at the young age of 9, how I expect him to treat someone he cares for. To have respect for himself and his partner(s). To use his real brain and heart. And to watch out for those who would seek to use him back or "entrap" him. I've had more than one woman throw themselves in the path of my husband; knowing full well that he's married and has a kid and a home and responsibilities that he decided he wanted to take on. It's been really hard for him, over the years, to understand that I'm not going to go crazy and control his every move. He's an adult. And yes, I'm a strong woman able to stand on my own, but I choose to be with the person I love. It's amazing how many women try to tell me to manipulate or control him in various ways (even his own mother). Unwinding her crazy controlling ways of raising her family has been an issue at times. So, it's not just young people who engage in unhealthy relationship practices.

People need to respect themselves and others much more than they do. From bullying to beatings to rapes... Our society is unhealthy and sick. We need so much repair!

 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
22. Thank you for reading it. Sometimes I set back and read posts
Tue Jan 21, 2014, 03:19 PM
Jan 2014

And after a while all the ideas I've thought about come out in a long winded post.

There's been so many discussions on feminism and misogyny lately. And bullying, even with the NJ Gov, which really upset me how the media was up-playing his Presidential bid and his really crass vindictive manners (what does that do for our image in the world and for our country?)

tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
12. Prosecutor requests that anyone who may have had an intimate relationship w/Johnson contact them
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 12:20 PM
Jan 2014

The Prosecuting Attorney’s Office requests that anyone who may have had an intimate relationship with Johnson or who may have information pertinent to this investigation contact the St. Charles Detective Bureau at 636-949-3330.

Link

Response to AngryAmish (Original post)

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
15. That is not actually true.
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 02:28 PM
Jan 2014

There are laws about having to disclose HIV status if one knows of it, before having sex.

Rob H.

(5,352 posts)
16. A lot of states have laws against knowingly concealing HIV status
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 02:48 PM
Jan 2014

Here in Tennessee a minister was charged last year with knowingly spreading HIV to his girlfriend and now faces 3-15 years in prison plus a minimum fine of $10,000. If this man knew he was positive and didn't disclose he belongs in jail, imo.

Yo_Mama

(8,303 posts)
17. If you know you have hepatis or syphilis or HIV
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 02:52 PM
Jan 2014

you have the duty to tell your potential partners, because otherwise it isn't truly consensual, is it?

Drunk driving on the sexual highway of life is bad (unprotected sex exposing yourself to risk), but reckless and dangerous driving on the sexual highway of life is worse.

It's sad that we even have to have laws to cover this sort of behavior, but apparently we do.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
18. condoms break
Mon Jan 20, 2014, 04:38 PM
Jan 2014

Women know they can get pregnant from sex, should we deny them abortions because they knew there was a risk of getting pregnant?

Would you choose to have sex with someone, even 'safe sex', if you knew beforehand about it?

Part of safe sex is knowledgeable consent before having it, you can't make that choice if you don't know.

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