Anti-abortion activist might keep Obama from unanimous re-nomination

[Freddie Stubbs]

Source: The Hill

Randall Terry, the controversial anti-abortion activist, won 18 percent of the vote in Oklahoma’s Democratic primary on Tuesday night, making him eligible for at least one of the state’s delegates.

President Obama had been the unanimous victor in every Democratic primary contest leading up to Tuesday.

Obama won Oklahoma with 57 percent, but Terry’s more than 20,000 votes was good enough to carry 12 counties in the deeply red state.

Obama secured 39 of the state’s 50 delegates on Tuesday, but Terry qualified for up to six. Another five remain uncommitted and will likely go to Obama.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/214635-anti-abortion-activist-may-keep-obama-from-unanimous-re-nomination

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Back in 2000 Lyndon LaRouche won some delegates in Arkansas, but the DNC denied them, citing the fact that he was ineligible to vote.

[sinkingfeeling]

1. I strongly doubt that it was Democrats who voted for Terry in Oklahoma.

[Freddie Stubbs]

2. OK has closed primaries:

http://www.ok.gov/elections/documents/faq_pri.pdf

[bluedigger]

3. Objection duly noted.

What's so important about unanimity, anyways?

[Vincardog]

4. The only problem with this is that the challenge to BO should be from the LEFT. No way does

BO need to move further right. What is he supposed to do hire Rush LimpBalls as a spokesman?

[Freddie Stubbs]

5. Democratic voters haven't given any support to President Obama's fringe opponents on the left

[TBF]

20. True -

unfortunately what I've seen on the Internet from disgruntled liberals is disinterest (ie working on Occupy - may or may not show up to vote), or switching to Paul because of his anti-war, pro-pot stance (ie have gone off the deep end).

If there is any challenge I'd much rather see it come from further left but that doesn't seem to be happening.

[LoZoccolo]

6. Actually, no.

The Gallup polls find that liberal Democrats support Obama more than moderate or conservative Democrats.

Here's the link:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/124922/Presidential-Job-Approval-Center.aspx

[Vincardog]

16. I can get a poll to say anything. There is a difference between "support" and not wanting any

improvement. Your poll does not show that BO is progressive enough.
Self identified Liberals may be anyone to the left (or right) of Genghis Kahn.

[emulatorloo]

30. You are in the 15% of Liberal Dems that disapprove of Obama

You are well within your rights to do so, and you have reasons for your positions.

But do not confuse a minority position with a majority position, just because you believe it or you hear other people echo your views on from a highly rarified self-selected sample. Like members of Democratic Underground.

ON EDIT: That does not mean that the 85% approve of every single thing Obama has done. However they are unwilling to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

ON EDIT: Somewhere I have heard that only 20% identify themselves as Liberals. (I may be a little off on this number) So think about what that means when we talk 15% of Liberal Democrats who disapprove of Obama.

[Vincardog]

31. You paint with a broad brush. I do NOT "disapprove of Obama" nor do I "oppose" him.

I have problems with some of his positions, and I have reasons for my problems with his positions.
I am not "willing to throw the baby out with the bathwater".
I am advocating for BO to change his direction in those areas where I believe he is headed in the wrong direction.
I am within my right to state that I do not believe that he has done enough to earn my vote.
That does not imply that I am willing to vote for the idiots on the other side of the race.

Why do you assume I my position is that of the minority?
I do not believe that you position of unconditional support is the Majority opinion just because you believe it or you hear other people echo your views on a highly rarified self-selected sample like members of Democratic Underground.

[emulatorloo]

33. LOL

Vicardog: "I do not believe that your position of unconditional support is the Majority opinion just because you believe it or you"

LOL, What a ridiculous thing to say. That kind of hyperbole makes you look silly.

Vicardog: "I am within my right to state that I do not believe that he has done enough to earn my vote."

Reread my post.

What part of my statement that "You are well within your rights to do so, and you have reasons for your positions" contradicts your "I am within my right to state that I do not believe that he has done enough to earn my vote."

Think before you put words into my mouth.

"Why do you assume I my position is that of the minority?" Because that is what the polling shows, and not just gallup polling. The majority of liberal democrats never wanted a primary challenge.

[Chan790]

23. As I pointed out before...

Liberal Dems are also smarter...smart enough to lie when asked because Rush, Beck and Hannity would have a field day with the story if there was even a hint of liberal-flight from the "socialist" President.

But mark my words, there will be a liberal at the top of the 2016 ticket or else there will be a 2016 Republican Presidential election winner.

[joshcryer]

41. WARREN 2016

Obama was the moderate transition candidate.

Warren will be the populist candidate.

[emulatorloo]

29. The left want Obama to defeat Romtorum and for Dems to take back the House and keep Senate.

You may not want that, but your views don't represent the views of the left and liberal Democrats.

[Vincardog]

32. I oppose BO's drift to the right and corporate control. You say I don't represent the views

of the left? Please.
Surely you jest. Please enlighten me. What does the "Left" really want?

[emulatorloo]

34. The leftists I know (including me) are pragmatists rather than rigid ideologues

They don't think in black and white and have a more complex view of the political sphere, which includes context.

Think Rachel Maddow.

ON EDIT: I do apologize for the above "You may not want that" re defeating Romtorum. That was snarky and hyperbolic and I should not have said it.

[Vincardog]

45. Interesting how you 'complex' view allows you to project your opinions on to me. But my narrow

view is irrelevant.

Where is the complexity is asserting opinions I have never expressed?

Where is the complexity in taking that I think in "black and white" for daring to say that I believe BO should move a lot further to the left, when you seem to allow NO criticism of him or his policies?

Project much?

[OKNancy]

7. Although Oklahoma has a closed primary, many

people are registered as Democrat who really aren't. This is left over from the days when local and state government was all Democratic. The first time we had a Republican majority in the State House and Senate was within the last two years.
Even my very, very right wing father in law kept his registration as a Democrat.

This is slowly changing.

999,943 - Democratic
849,332 - Republican
240,855 - Independent

as of Jan 2011
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look at this and notice in many counties it is two to one for Dems. http://www.ok.gov/elections/documents/reg_0111.pdf

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People who voted for Terry are not REAL Democrats. They are fake Dems

[sybylla]

21. I agree: Southern Dems have long been a different animal, though times are changing.

I'm great friends with a Northern Dem who was a Florida Republican in the 60's because that was the party of liberals in the south.

[kag]

8. Randall Terry is a pig.

I don't understand how he hasn't been arrested and convicted of inciting violence, and promoting the murder of doctors who treat pregnant women.

[Lionessa]

9. Geez, we need to get the "anti-abortion" term out of MSM and get it replaced with "anti-choice"

That said I don't think this will be the least of an issue for Obama.

[peace frog]

14. Exactly

Obama has nothing to fear from Randall Terry.

[dmr]

15. I aggree 100%

It irritates the hell out of me. Everyone I know on the Left is pro-life.

On the Left we trust & respect women. We are pro-life & pro-choice.

On the Right they distrust & disrespect women. They are anti-women.

[awoke_in_2003]

19. and we need to get the anti-choice people...

out of the party.

[StarsInHerHair]

36. maybe call them anti-birth control

saying anti-choice makes it seem like an inconvenience, at least that's the way they've twisted the meaning over 20 years

[bigworld]

10. Well, that's democracy for ya

It's a little sloppy sometimes, but I'd rather have a Randall Terry on the ballot than have it any other way.

[Iggo]

11. Why does it have to be unanimous?

[asjr]

12. Terry has for years been trouble. There are more evangelical

voters now than ever before and it is because of people like Terry who want to tell the rest of the world how to live and vote. I wish his branch would become its own party so we would know exactly who and how many of them there are.

[thelordofhell]

13. And here I was hoping Vermin Supreme was going to get some delegates

[Bjorn Against]

35. I love the part at the end of the video when he "turns Randall Terry gay"

Vermine Supreme is my favorite Presidential candidate this year. Of course I would never actually want to see him as President as that would be a bit too crazy, but watching him run for office is pure entertainment. If you take the guy literally you will think he is crazy, but if you view him as a satirist then you can see that he is actually quite brilliant.

[a simple pattern]

38. I love Vermin Supreme!

His name makes me want TacoBell!

[baldguy]

17. Randall Terry is a terrorist, and should be treated like one.

And any Democrat voting for him should be exposed.

[sakabatou]

24. Terrorist?

Enlighten me.

[ieoeja]

25. He posts lists of names, office and home addresses for doctors and their families.

If one of the many procedures performed by the doctor happens to be abortion.

He stops just shy of telling people to kill. But his implication is overtly obvious. And at least one dedicated follower did kill someone he got off Randall's list.

[sakabatou]

27. Definitely obvious.

[baldguy]

26. He supports murder to forward his political goals.

That's the very definition of terrorism.

[sakabatou]

28. Ah.

[LeftishBrit]

43. He is at least a supporter of terrorism when it suits his cause

He said that Dr Tiller, murdered by an anti-abortion extremist, 'reaped what he sowed'.

[barbtries]

18. geez

well at the end of the day it's a non issue. thankfully

[The Magistrate]

22. The Wretch Will Not Make It Past The Credentials Committee, Sir

Hopefully the twist in the rules by which it is done will show some elegance....

"Rover was killed by a Pontiac, and it was done with such grace and artistry witnesses awarded the driver both ears and the tail."

[Lucky Luciano]

37. I feel sorry for smart Oklahomans that live

...among such spectacular stupidity.

[geek tragedy]

39. Can the OK Dem party just break away from the national

party and stop undercutting us? It's not like they're worth a bucket of warm spit to us in Congress.

[dflprincess]

40. Don't worry, the DNC will either find a reason not to seat them

or see to it that they're not on the floor when the vote is done.

[David__77]

42. The delegates would be denied, even if "won."

Lyndon LaRouche won several delegates in 1996 in Arkansas running as a Democrat against Clinton. Now, as then, the DNC would simply declare the challenger not to be a "bona fide Democrat." It is entirely legal.

[GeorgeGist]

44. Am I supposed to care?