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TexasTowelie

(112,252 posts)
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 02:21 PM Jan 2014

Beanie Babies creator gets probation, no prison

Source: AP

CHICAGO (AP) — The billionaire creator of Beanie Babies was sentenced to two years of probation, but no prison time, on Tuesday for tax evasion on $25 million in income he had stashed away in Swiss bank accounts.

H. Ty Warner, 69, appeared somber but composed as he made a brief statement before receiving his sentence in a Chicago federal courtroom, apologizing and saying he felt "shame and embarrassment" for what he had done.

He could have been sentenced to up to five years in prison, and prosecutors were seeking prison time for Warner, who pleaded guilty last year to a single tax evasion count.

U.S. District Judge Charles Kocoras, however, sentenced Warner to probation and 500 hours of community service, praising the toy magnate for the charity work he's done.

Read more: http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/crime/article/Beanie-Babies-creator-gets-probation-no-prison-5140435.php

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Beanie Babies creator gets probation, no prison (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jan 2014 OP
So, what do poorer people get when they evade taxes? Trillo Jan 2014 #1
average Joe would be in jail Phil1934 Jan 2014 #2
Poor people never experience public humiliation and private torment. jsr Jan 2014 #6
IRS policy is NOT to jail people who are not front page items happyslug Jan 2014 #10
It's good to be King! Dollface Jan 2014 #3
Another tragic victim of affluenza. zeemike Jan 2014 #4
Kids, Don't Try This At Home jsr Jan 2014 #5
Of course a .00001% is not going to jail. Dawson Leery Jan 2014 #7
That's shameful U.S. District Judge Charles Kocoras! tofuandbeer Jan 2014 #8
THE HARSHEST SENTENCES ... JEFF9K Jan 2014 #9
Oh yes CFLDem Jan 2014 #16
Jail is for the little people. dbackjon Jan 2014 #11
That sends a message - "find an expensive lawyer, and cheat on your taxes" muriel_volestrangler Jan 2014 #12
crime pays. nt Javaman Jan 2014 #13
Amaetur. rocktivity Jan 2014 #14
Wesley Snipes just got out Phil1934 Jan 2014 #15
I was thinking the same thing alcina Jan 2014 #17

Trillo

(9,154 posts)
1. So, what do poorer people get when they evade taxes?
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 02:27 PM
Jan 2014

Do poor people do "charity work" ?

U.S. District Judge Charles Kocoras, however, sentenced Warner to probation and 500 hours of community service, praising the toy magnate for the charity work he's done.

 

Phil1934

(49 posts)
2. average Joe would be in jail
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 02:27 PM
Jan 2014

The judge said Warner's "public humiliation" and "private torment" as a result of his criminal prosecution was a punishment he's already paid. Couldn't his be applied to all crimes, or just those of the very rich?

 

happyslug

(14,779 posts)
10. IRS policy is NOT to jail people who are not front page items
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 02:49 PM
Jan 2014

Thus poor people just pay up, they are rarely charge for IRS violations. These violations are handle administratively, thus fines must be paid, but no jail time.

The IRS wants front page headlines and go after people who are front page headlines. The IRS has a long history of doing this, think Al Capone (lots of income, no taxes paid AND it was front page news). The justification behind this is that people hear of people going to jail, and to avoid jail they pay their taxes.

zeemike

(18,998 posts)
4. Another tragic victim of affluenza.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 02:30 PM
Jan 2014

You got to feel sorry for him having to do 500 hours of pretend work.

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
7. Of course a .00001% is not going to jail.
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 02:43 PM
Jan 2014

His tribute to Ronnie Reagan beanie baby makes much more sense now.

JEFF9K

(1,935 posts)
9. THE HARSHEST SENTENCES ...
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 02:46 PM
Jan 2014

THE HARSHEST SENTENCES ... went to the people who invested their life savings in Beanie Babies.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,322 posts)
12. That sends a message - "find an expensive lawyer, and cheat on your taxes"
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 03:59 PM
Jan 2014

"Forbes recently put his net worth at $2.6 billion"
"Prosecutors say at one point, Warner was concealing as much as $107 million."
" He earned $3.1 million in gross income in 2002 through the account"
"Warner agreed to pay a civil penalty of more than $53 million and $5 million in back taxes."

But what got him off jail time was a $20,000 charitable donation to a stranger (ignore the "$20 million charitable donation of proceeds from a toy he helped design commemorating Princess Diana after her death" - as Chris Rock would say, "what do you want - a cookie?"; no-one gets credit for declining to profit off a death). So, $20,000 from $2.6bn makes you " a very unique individual ... in his service and kindness to mankind". That's 0.0008% of his wealth. Work out how much that is for you (example: if your net wealth is a comfortable $500,000 - say you own your own house, and have plenty saved for your retirement - that's $4), and consider if a judge would let you off jail time for a deliberate crime for giving that much to a stranger. Consider if the judge would even let your lawyer continue his speech in court if he brought that up.

 

Phil1934

(49 posts)
15. Wesley Snipes just got out
Tue Jan 14, 2014, 05:30 PM
Jan 2014

after 3 years. Can you tell me the main difference between him and TY Warner?[link:|

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