'Ghost gun' regulations pushed in California bill

[Judi Lynn]

Source: Associated Press

'Ghost gun' regulations pushed in California bill
By DON THOMPSON
Associated Press

Published: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 at 3:57 a.m.
Last Modified: Tuesday, January 14, 2014 at 3:57 a.m.

The "ghost guns" that can slip through metal detectors and be assembled at home without safeguards are spurring efforts in California and elsewhere to bring these weapons and their owners out of the shadows.

A state lawmaker proposed legislation Monday to make background checks and gun registrations requirements for anyone who builds plastic firearms on a 3-D printer at home. The bill by state Sen. Kevin de Leon also would apply to anyone who buys parts that can be assembled into a gun.

It's part of a growing effort across the country to pre-empt the spread of these undetectable guns.

De Leon said he is trying to address a twin threat from what he called "ghost guns" - plastic guns that can evade metal detectors and unregistered weapons that can fall into the hands of people who are legally prohibited from owning firearms under state law.



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[jtuck004]

1. I'm sure that will work as well as ferreting out weed users...

Not illegal to have the printer, not illegal to have the files, only illegal to make the thing, yet you may never know if they do until they shoot something with it.

And I still haven't seen effective "ghost" bullets.

On the other hand, for other uses, this is some very interesting technology. You can design and build the parts for your own home. And while the wealthy certainly aren't going to curtail their income by bringing manufacturing jobs back, as these mature they have the potential for far lower entry costs, along with which comes the ability for a small group of people to begin to manufacture here what their neighbors would have purchased from another country.

It's still pretty early, but it is getting much better quickly, and will get cheaper.

[Live and Learn]

2. You might be correct. Then again,

the ridiculous of trying to enforce such a law might just give us av good reason to ban guns all together.

[NickB79]

3. No, it would give the NRA a new scare tactic to get more funding

Another "look what the crazy liberal gun grabbers are doing now!" mailing to scare gun owners into sending them money.

And ridiculously unenforceable gun laws have typically ended up being legal wins, not loses, for gun rights groups in the courts.

[onehandle]

4. The manufacturing of these guns will accelerate the return of sensible gun control.

Please proceed, gun nuts.

[PeoViejo]

5. Kids have been making Zip Guns for a long time

all without the use of a 3D printer. Ghost Guns can be easily made using commonly available fiber re-enforced plastics with simple hand tools.

Someone who would use this type of weapon to commit a crime, doesn't give a shit about some 2 bit regulation.

[bobclark86]

6. AND

have a $2,000 3-D printer...

[PeoViejo]

7. All this hoo-hah is a great marketing tool for the printers.

They're geeky and neat, but who has the time to write the code to build even a simple item. Basically, it's just a hot-glue gun with a multi-axis controller. The price they want for the plastic feedstock is criminal. You can buy it on fleabay, at a ridiculously expensive price.

I think the whole thing is Bullshit.

[onehandle]

8. 'Because there are criminals, gun control is useless'

NRA Talking Point #386

[PeoViejo]

9. I don't do NRA Talking Points

...but that doesn't seem to matter to some.

Ad Hominem away......

[Ranchemp.]

10. In as much as I can't find a Talking Point in the NRA website,

why don't you link to it so we can all see what "NRA Talking Point #386 is?
Oh, Wait............................., there is no such section on the NRA website.

[onehandle]

11. 'Always Defend The NRA Even If It Reveals You As An NRA Defender'

NRA Commandment #11

[Ranchemp.]

12. Can't find the "NRA Commandment #11" on their website either.

Link?

Just for the record, although I have stated this before, I have never belonged to the NRA, nor do I defend the NRA.

[Trillo]

13. "Ghost guns"? Is that a metaphor? Or a literal?

Because if it's a metaphor, it seems like there's a lot of those running around. GMOs. Radiation. EMF. Weaponized viruses. And on and on. Bankers? All of those are "Ghost guns" of corporations, the chosen shield of wealthy folks. We could really use a war against "Ghost guns" of the wealthy.

[olddad56]

14. what is this world coming to when you can't even print a functional illegal weapon.