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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 05:40 PM Jan 2014

Indian diplomat indicted in NY, leaves US

Source: ASSOCIATED PRESS

By Associated Press, Updated: Thursday, January 9, 4:19 PM

NEW YORK — An Indian diplomat accused of lying about how much she paid her housekeeper was indicted Thursday on two criminal charges, though prosecutors told a judge that she had been granted diplomatic immunity and left the country earlier in the day.

Devyani Khobragade was charged by a federal grand jury in Manhattan with visa fraud and making false statements in a case that has triggered an outcry in India. She’s accused of fraudulently obtaining a work visa for her New York City housekeeper.

The indictment said Khobragade had made or multiple false representations to U.S. authorities, or caused them to be made, to obtain a visa for a personal domestic worker. She planned to bring to worker the United States in September 2012 when she worked at the Consulate General of India in New York, according to the indictment.

Khobragade, 39, India’s deputy consul general in New York, has maintained her innocence to accusations that she claimed to pay her Indian maid $4,500 per month but actually gave her far less than the U.S. minimum wage. Her arrest last month sparked outrage in India after revelations that she was strip-searched and thrown in a cell with other criminal defendants before being released on $250,000 bail.

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Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/indian-diplomat-indicted-in-ny-leaves-us/2014/01/09/c75e0600-7970-11e3-a647-a19deaf575b3_story.html?wpisrc=al_national

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Indian diplomat indicted in NY, leaves US (Original Post) DonViejo Jan 2014 OP
awww, poor princess didn't even get to keep her slave. geek tragedy Jan 2014 #1
Hmmm...announced on the same day as the Christie press conference. If it wasn't planned it was okaawhatever Jan 2014 #2
If she had immunity, how could she be indicted? cosmicone Jan 2014 #3
Her actions were criminal, but she has special status that prevents her geek tragedy Jan 2014 #4
People with immunity cosmicone Jan 2014 #8
She didn't have immunity at the time rpannier Jan 2014 #9
She did, as debatable as it might be. n/t cosmicone Jan 2014 #12
From the Huindustan Times in India rpannier Jan 2014 #17
Some documents were later produced cosmicone Jan 2014 #20
Nope. Black-letter law. Recursion Jan 2014 #34
My understanding is that not all immunity is the same. Diplomatic immunity covers pretty much 24601 Jan 2014 #25
Besides her consular position cosmicone Jan 2014 #28
Khobragade may be gone, but the strain in US-Indian relations over this continues. Comrade Grumpy Jan 2014 #5
US India relations is largely about certain people on both sides getting rich JI7 Jan 2014 #10
Wait till a US consular officer breaks the law in India cosmicone Jan 2014 #15
And if they find them, they should prosecute them Recursion Jan 2014 #35
good fucking riddance, but i do feel bad for the ones who she will be able to mistreat JI7 Jan 2014 #6
Now for all this exercise cosmicone Jan 2014 #13
this isn't freerepublic JI7 Jan 2014 #14
I'm glad you figured it out finally! Bravo. n/t cosmicone Jan 2014 #18
using someone getting public assistance as an attack against them is fucked up JI7 Jan 2014 #19
I didn't attack anyone for being on welfare. cosmicone Jan 2014 #21
you used being on welfare as an attack, as if it makes someone worth less JI7 Jan 2014 #23
Not at all. I am a big supporter of AFDC and food stamps cosmicone Jan 2014 #24
it's helpful to be realistic and not believe the lies from indian govt which protects rapists and JI7 Jan 2014 #26
Show me one case where Indian government cosmicone Jan 2014 #27
when the fucking cops accused the girl of burning herself to death and some shit politician JI7 Jan 2014 #29
eyeroll cosmicone Jan 2014 #30
so fucking what, when we talk about fucked up shit in the US i don't need to know JI7 Jan 2014 #31
Only one response to you cosmicone Jan 2014 #32
seriously, is this shit allowed, attacking people for being on welfare JI7 Jan 2014 #16
Please read post #21 n/t cosmicone Jan 2014 #22
She won't be allowed back into the US unless diplomatic immunity is waived. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #7
Why would she ever want to come back? cosmicone Jan 2014 #11
Spot on davidpdx Jan 2014 #33
Not the way elections are looking Recursion Jan 2014 #36
Bharara didn't arrest the Russians because Russia heeded his warning Recursion Jan 2014 #37

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
2. Hmmm...announced on the same day as the Christie press conference. If it wasn't planned it was
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 05:59 PM
Jan 2014

great luck. Most won't even notice.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
3. If she had immunity, how could she be indicted?
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:11 PM
Jan 2014

Face saver for Preet Bharara and stupid people in the state department.

This would never have happened under Hillary Clinton.

By the way, as Ken Starr proved, a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich via a grand jury.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
4. Her actions were criminal, but she has special status that prevents her
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:13 PM
Jan 2014

from being held accountable for her criminal actions.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
8. People with immunity
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:20 PM
Jan 2014

are just declared PNG (persona non grata) and they leave -- they are never indicted.

Preet Bharara could have just dropped the charges and not appeared in court -- yet, he did and made a show of it.

rpannier

(24,330 posts)
17. From the Huindustan Times in India
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:29 PM
Jan 2014

"At the time of arrest, Khobragade had limited immunity, covering only her actions in line of her duties as a consular officer with the Indian consulate in New York."

Her consular immunity, US government argued at the time of her arrest, did not protect her from local laws. She was arrested by the state department’s bureau of diplomatic security.

The Indian government immediately transferred her to its permanent mission to UN, whose staff are all covered by full diplomatic immunity from local laws.

"In a note sent to a New York court with the indictment on Thursday, Bharara said, “We understand that the defendant was very recently accorded diplomatic immunity status and that she departed the United States today."

She did not have full diplomatic immunity at the time.

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on note... To claim somehow that this never would have happened if Hillary Clinton were president is unlikely. The woman involved committed a crime and was arrested. The arresting officers did not call President Obama or Sec of State Kerry to get their permission. They acted in accordance with the law.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
20. Some documents were later produced
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:34 PM
Jan 2014

by India's ministry that showed that she was a consultant to India's UN Mission and had immunity.

It is all debatable.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
34. Nope. Black-letter law.
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 02:57 PM
Jan 2014

Consular officers do not enjoy personal immunity except for official functions.

24601

(3,962 posts)
25. My understanding is that not all immunity is the same. Diplomatic immunity covers pretty much
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:49 PM
Jan 2014

everything unless her country (India) waives it. But she has a more limited Consular immunity which covers only those acts directly related to her official consular duties.

I believe that the allegations are outside the scope of her immunity.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
28. Besides her consular position
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 07:44 PM
Jan 2014

she was also a consultant to India's UN mission and had absolute immunity.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
5. Khobragade may be gone, but the strain in US-Indian relations over this continues.
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:13 PM
Jan 2014

They're taking away our club in Delhi!

JI7

(89,252 posts)
10. US India relations is largely about certain people on both sides getting rich
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:20 PM
Jan 2014

so nothing is going to happen there.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
15. Wait till a US consular officer breaks the law in India
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:27 PM
Jan 2014

already the Indian government is investigating consular officers' spouses working in India and not paying income tax.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
35. And if they find them, they should prosecute them
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 02:58 PM
Jan 2014

The US won't behave like a bunch of 9 year olds in that case.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
6. good fucking riddance, but i do feel bad for the ones who she will be able to mistreat
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:20 PM
Jan 2014

in india and get away with it there.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
13. Now for all this exercise
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:26 PM
Jan 2014

we taxpayers are left to pay for the maid and her family who are probably on welfare and were brought here at taxpayer expense.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
21. I didn't attack anyone for being on welfare.
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:36 PM
Jan 2014

However, these people were brought here at taxpayer expense and as a taxpayer, I don't quite agree with it only to help Preet Bharara.

There are thousands of well-deserving Indians who are impoverished and wait for years to get a visa.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
24. Not at all. I am a big supporter of AFDC and food stamps
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:46 PM
Jan 2014

for people fallen on hard times who live in the US.

Importing people for some prosecutor's ego and then putting them on welfare when they were already making the 80th percentile in their home country is another story.

Sangeeta Richard's family earned about 92,000 rupees a month. An average salaried engineer or doctor in India makes about 60,000 rupees a month. Math is helpful.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
26. it's helpful to be realistic and not believe the lies from indian govt which protects rapists and
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 07:34 PM
Jan 2014

others who commit violence against women.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
27. Show me one case where Indian government
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 07:42 PM
Jan 2014

has protected rapists and violence against women.

Your hatred of India is clouding the perspective here.

On the other hand, just today, a St. Louis college student with iron clad evidence of his raping an unconscious teenage girl was let off the hook by the prosecutor.

JI7

(89,252 posts)
29. when the fucking cops accused the girl of burning herself to death and some shit politician
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 07:48 PM
Jan 2014

said something about how she may have been a prositute or some other shit which even if she were would not excuse what was done to her.

lets not be ignorant of these things and the reality of what goes on.

and i'm not the one who is going on about either the US or india or anyting else being the best as you always try to do with india.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
30. eyeroll
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 08:21 PM
Jan 2014

I never said any country was best. Your perspective is biased.

India tries rapists and it is punishable by life in prison or death. You make it sound like rape is not against the law in India.

In a country of over a billion and a quarter people, with vast rural areas, some low level local politician may spew something stupid. India also has its Gohmerts, Kings, Palins and Bachmanns.

However, your statements make it look like everyone in India supports rape and mistreatment of women which is painting with a 1 mile wide brush.

What is peculiar is that your venom is solely reserved for such atrocities in India while you give a free pass to Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, Malaysia, Indonesia, Sudan, Congo, Nigeria and many other places, most of which are not even democracies and where mistreatment of women is the norm. Why do you single out India? (I think I know the answer to that - it is pretty obvious)

Remember, women have a vote in India and many are elected union leaders, city and district councilpersons, MPs, ministers, chief ministers and one even was elected prime minister. One woman was also president of India.

When was the last time the US had a female president? Like ... never?

JI7

(89,252 posts)
31. so fucking what, when we talk about fucked up shit in the US i don't need to know
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 08:25 PM
Jan 2014

the history of things like the moon landing and other good things that were done. i am referring to what the thread is about.

and that's the same with this thread on this fucking idiot .

you are sensitive to any criticism of india and you sound just like the wingnuts who feel the need to talk about the US being the best anytime someone tries to discuss some issue.

it's the same with the idiots who always bring up oprah and obama anytime we want to discuss racism in the us . as if that takes away from the fact that there is a lot of racism.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
11. Why would she ever want to come back?
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:22 PM
Jan 2014

Besides, she may become foreign secretary or even foreign minister one day. The whole exercise by Preet Bharara was only to show off how Preet Bharara has become a good American boy by treating Indians worse than any other ethnicity.

Bharara never arrested the Russian consular workers who were accused of medicaid fraud of hundreds of thousands.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
36. Not the way elections are looking
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 02:59 PM
Jan 2014

She and her Congress cronies will be looking for work in a year or so...

I'm sure she'll still keep the 11 illegally-obtained apartments in Mumbai, though.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
37. Bharara didn't arrest the Russians because Russia heeded his warning
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 03:07 PM
Jan 2014

Same warning he gave India, which they didn't bother to do anything about. Russia upgraded or removed everybody implicated in the Medicaid scam. India could have done the same, but couldn't be bothered.

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