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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 07:13 PM Jan 2014

North Korean Leader Warns Of Nuclear Disaster, Threatens US

Source: Sydney Morning Herald

North Korean leader Kim Jong-un has said the Korean peninsula will be engulfed by ''massive nuclear disaster'' if war breaks out there again, warning the US it will not be safe in the event of a conflict.

''If the war breaks out again in this land, it will bring about a massive nuclear disaster and the US will never be safe,'' Kim said in his New Year message, broadcast on state television.

''We are faced with a dangerous situation in which a small, accidental military clash can lead to an all-out war.''

Mr Kim added he would not beg for peace and vowed to protect the impoverished but nuclear-armed North with strong self-defence measures against enemies.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/world/north-korean-leader-warns-of-nuclear-disaster-threatens-us-20140101-hv79a.html



Mock this little turd all you want but the fact of the matter is, he has nuclear weapons and we haven't a clue who we are dealing with here...
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North Korean Leader Warns Of Nuclear Disaster, Threatens US (Original Post) Purveyor Jan 2014 OP
Psychotic, smug, self-interested, nihilistic sociopath with a God complex. Completely unpredictable Nanjing to Seoul Jan 2014 #1
We all know that about George W Bush... Archae Jan 2014 #4
i myself thought he was talking about Cheney..... lastlib Jan 2014 #21
Exaclty like the American ethos agent46 Jan 2014 #25
American = North Korea davidpdx Jan 2014 #27
Too bad we wasted all our resources attacking a country with no WMDs. last1standing Jan 2014 #2
Sad but true. dipsydoodle Jan 2014 #5
I totally agree davidpdx Jan 2014 #29
Ah ...the PTB need some more fear to help boost weapon production and the bottom line. L0oniX Jan 2014 #3
North Korea has nukes? wow where have i been darkangel218 Jan 2014 #6
They went nuclear during the Bush administration. Most right wingers try to blame either Obama or okaawhatever Jan 2014 #8
Thanks for the reply. I seriously had no idea. darkangel218 Jan 2014 #9
They don't have many and they don't have a reliable delivery system. Gore1FL Jan 2014 #14
There is a question as to whether they have a rocket that could bring it as far as America. Russia okaawhatever Jan 2014 #15
The whole North Korean situation lordsummerisle Jan 2014 #7
Yep... I haven't figured that one out, either. theHandpuppet Jan 2014 #18
NK is a buffer between China and the USA/USA allies. ConcernedCanuk Jan 2014 #31
Balance of power. R. Daneel Olivaw Jan 2014 #32
I really don't think China knows what to do about NKorea...... lastlib Jan 2014 #23
All they can do is contain them davidpdx Jan 2014 #28
I think China is loathe to take over NK's government NickB79 Jan 2014 #33
I don't think the regime change in North Korea would be as difficult as davidpdx Jan 2014 #36
When I was working in Ottawa I asked a Chinese diplomat that question Sen. Walter Sobchak Jan 2014 #37
Know this Onion article is very old but it's relevant to this. iandhr Jan 2014 #10
Easy. Scuba Jan 2014 #22
Neah neah-neah neah neah booga booga booga. . . DinahMoeHum Jan 2014 #11
The little brat deserves a spanking. Owl Jan 2014 #12
Translation: "Give us more free rice or we will keep scaring the shit out of the South Koreans". DCBob Jan 2014 #13
Cretin. nt onehandle Jan 2014 #16
Spend less time talking and more time feeding your own people, short stack. nt Codeine Jan 2014 #17
The Russian Postcards Look Nicer jakeXT Jan 2014 #19
i think he's a maniac. barbtries Jan 2014 #20
He needs to be reminded of MAD...... Historic NY Jan 2014 #24
Oh. I thought you were suggesting we send Alfred E. Neuman over there. Kablooie Jan 2014 #40
He's alive because he's a useful pawn for the Chinese Benton D Struckcheon Jan 2014 #26
He really didn't say anything new Renew Deal Jan 2014 #30
It's winter time and their grain stocks are low... Javaman Jan 2014 #34
Shocking. Another crazy asshole... davidthegnome Jan 2014 #35
what I find more weird than a whackie, commie-country boy 'leader', killing people he doesn't 'like Sunlei Jan 2014 #38
I'll bet he's talking to his people, not us, in reality. Kablooie Jan 2014 #39
 

Nanjing to Seoul

(2,088 posts)
1. Psychotic, smug, self-interested, nihilistic sociopath with a God complex. Completely unpredictable
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 07:20 PM
Jan 2014

However, until he does something, it's all bluster to make the brutalized people he overlords cower to him.

Archae

(46,337 posts)
4. We all know that about George W Bush...
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 07:26 PM
Jan 2014

Oh, you were talking about another psychotic, smug, self-interested, nihilistic sociopath with a God complex.

agent46

(1,262 posts)
25. Exaclty like the American ethos
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 09:36 PM
Jan 2014

Psychotic, smug, self-interested, nihilistic sociopath with a God complex. Completely unpredictable.

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
2. Too bad we wasted all our resources attacking a country with no WMDs.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 07:24 PM
Jan 2014

North Korea is a real problem that needs to be resolved but we flittered away our prestige bombing Iraq into dust so now most countries are hesitant to follow our lead when we say that something has to be done about North Korea.

Of course, I'm not really hearing anyone in government actually saying much about North Korea - only Iran and Syria.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
29. I totally agree
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 10:07 PM
Jan 2014

Part of the problem is that so much focus is put on the Middle East it takes our eye off what is happening in Asia. It's not just the war in Afghanistan and Iraq. The conflict between Israel and the Palestinians, conflicts in Syria, unrest in Egypt, etc. The Middle East sucks so much time and resources out of our country it is just disgusting. While I think we should help, countries who are not cooperating in way that fosters peace should get nothing. No financial aid, no food, nothing.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
8. They went nuclear during the Bush administration. Most right wingers try to blame either Obama or
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 07:48 PM
Jan 2014

Clinton for it, but it's not true. They did it under Bush while he was asleep at the wheel. It also adds an interesting dimension to their arguments about Obama not being tough enough on Iran going nuclear.

 

darkangel218

(13,985 posts)
9. Thanks for the reply. I seriously had no idea.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 07:51 PM
Jan 2014

Thought they were trying to build one?

What the hell is wrong with me

But anyway, that's terrible if they have nukes. Now a nuke war is on the table. Holy fuck..

Gore1FL

(21,132 posts)
14. They don't have many and they don't have a reliable delivery system.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 08:21 PM
Jan 2014

Nonetheless, they could do plenty to S. Korea, Japan, China, and themselves with little effort.

okaawhatever

(9,462 posts)
15. There is a question as to whether they have a rocket that could bring it as far as America. Russia
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 08:26 PM
Jan 2014

and China have helped them develop it. Russia has helped Iran develop theirs as well. We have defense systems to intercept such rockets/bombs/missles and I don't know of anyone in the military community who think N Korea has a weapon advanced enough to escape detection and intervention. Not even close, in fact.
IDY if you remember N Korea testing a rocket. They had one that went right into the ocean. They launched another (they said they were putting a satellite in orbit, but everyone thought they were lying) that was successful. At that time, we sent some super aircraft that goes into space to have a little look-see at what NK was up to. Whatever they launched didn't seem to concern us too much.

lordsummerisle

(4,651 posts)
7. The whole North Korean situation
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 07:45 PM
Jan 2014

Is contingent on China. China could quash NK like a bug if it wanted but for many reasons it allows them to do what they do both in rhetoric and in deed.

 

ConcernedCanuk

(13,509 posts)
31. NK is a buffer between China and the USA/USA allies.
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 12:22 AM
Jan 2014

.
.
.

If NK falls to South Korea, then the USA would be in there like a dirty shirt.

China is already unhappy with amount of US military snooping around their coast, aligning itself with Japan, South Korea, Taiwan etc.

I think the World would be wise to leave NK alone. I do not believe NK has any plans to attack anyone unless provoked.

NK is well aware that either USA or China can out-nuke them, but they are fiercely independent, although poor. Iraq and Afghanistan will seem like walks in the park if NK gets fully engaged by anyone.

Stay away from that hornets nest or you're gonna get stung.

Badly.

CC

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
28. All they can do is contain them
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 10:02 PM
Jan 2014

and if things get worse then go in and take the government over. China has not been too terribly happy with what North Korea has done recently. North Korea is kind of the step-child you don't want.

NickB79

(19,253 posts)
33. I think China is loathe to take over NK's government
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 08:30 AM
Jan 2014

After the debacles the US has had in Iraq and Afghanistan, it wouldn't be very smart to try the same method of regime change we fucked up with.

The last thing China wants is a leaderless NK, with 20 million starving North Koreans rushing their border.

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
36. I don't think the regime change in North Korea would be as difficult as
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 02:11 AM
Jan 2014

the two wars we got ourselves into. The Kim family has abused their people for decades (granted the Chinese wouldn't be that much better). If they need to, I believe they probably will. They'll have to seal the boarders which will be costly. The alternative would be North Korea starting a war with Japan and South Korea which would be much more dangerous. Either way China would have to back North Korea.

 

Sen. Walter Sobchak

(8,692 posts)
37. When I was working in Ottawa I asked a Chinese diplomat that question
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 03:42 AM
Jan 2014

And what he said was China is basically in the same situation with North Korea as South Africa is in with Zimbabwe. As the regional hegemonic power they could militarily neutralize the respective basket case regimes but then they're stuck with occupying and rebuilding massively failed states. All the while it doesn't really serve any strategic objective.

And for political reasons Korean reunification wouldn't exactly be an acceptable outcome for the hardliners who still want to pretend they're communists. (my comment, not his)

iandhr

(6,852 posts)
10. Know this Onion article is very old but it's relevant to this.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 07:51 PM
Jan 2014

N. Korea Wondering What It Has To Do To Attract U.S. Military Attention


PYONGYANG, NORTH KOREA—As the U.S. continues to inch toward war with Iraq, a jealous and frustrated North Korea is wondering what it has to do to attract American military attention. "What does it take to get a few F-16s or naval warships deployed to the Yellow Sea?" North Korean president Kim Jong Il asked Monday. "In the past month and a half, we've expelled U.N. nuclear inspectors, withdrawn from the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, restarted a mothballed nuclear complex capable of producing weapons-grade plutonium, and threatened to resume missile tests. You'd think that would be enough to get a measly Marine division or two on standby in the Pacific, but apparently not."

Kim said his nation is "way more deserving" of B-52 deployment than Iraq.

"Bush says his number one priority is eliminating weapons of mass destruction, but he sure doesn't act that way," Kim said. "Iraq may have weapons of mass destruction and may be developing more. The DPRK, on the other hand, does have weapons of mass destruction and isn't about to stop making them any time soon."

"Can I be any more clear?" Kim continued. "We have nuclear bombs and delivery methods. Kablooey! There goes Anchorage! But does Bush care? Nope—he just goes on about how we're 'a diplomatic issue, not a military one.' If he even mentions us at all, that is."

http://www.theonion.com/articles/n-korea-wondering-what-it-has-to-do-to-attract-us,35/

DinahMoeHum

(21,795 posts)
11. Neah neah-neah neah neah booga booga booga. . .
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 07:54 PM
Jan 2014

The man-child in North Korea is having a temper tantrum again.

barbtries

(28,799 posts)
20. i think he's a maniac.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 09:25 PM
Jan 2014

ever since he murdered his uncle. total maniac with his finger on the trigger. what i don't know is what should be done about him.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
24. He needs to be reminded of MAD......
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 09:35 PM
Jan 2014

"mutually assured destruction". one released on his part will insured the DPRK will no longer exist.

Benton D Struckcheon

(2,347 posts)
26. He's alive because he's a useful pawn for the Chinese
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 09:48 PM
Jan 2014

Their push against their neighbors, and in this case specifically SK and Japan, is helped by having a wild lunatic like him as an ally. You don't really want to mess with China when they've got a rabid skunk like this who may not be able to do lethal damage, but can distract you enough that when the really lethal attack begins you'll be looking the wrong way, or entirely blinded.
It's not like the US doesn't know this of course. I have a feeling if things really got hot the Chinese will find that Jung's usefulness is rather seriously overrated. Nukes are like any other weapon; they have to be aimed and fired properly. NK has given the world no evidence it knows how to do either.
So, assuming the evidence is correct and those weapons are useless to them, and then given the fact there's maybe 10 people in NK who are actually well fed, the Chinese might find themselves with a very well fed and well equipped army on the Yalu somewhat more quickly than their war-games told them they'd have to face such a thing.

Javaman

(62,531 posts)
34. It's winter time and their grain stocks are low...
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 09:47 AM
Jan 2014

they go through this every year. They act all crazy to "save face" so they can get more grain for their starving masses. They are apparently unable to act like other responcible nations who simply ask.

rince and repeat.

davidthegnome

(2,983 posts)
35. Shocking. Another crazy asshole...
Thu Jan 2, 2014, 11:42 AM
Jan 2014

from North Korea, making threats against the US. No, of course Mr. Kim will not beg for peace, he is a sad little turd. I tell you though, that a real man in a position of power such as his, realizes that peace, is, perhaps, the only thing worth begging for. Arrogance... stubborn pride, foolishness. He could do far better for his Country than the former dear leader ever did, if he would simply abandon his ego and put the welfare of his people first. This is ridiculous. There is no reason we should ever have to fight the North Koreans, and no reason they should ever have to fight us.

You can have peace if you want it, Mr. Kim. Your threats are a waste of time, and energy.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
38. what I find more weird than a whackie, commie-country boy 'leader', killing people he doesn't 'like
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 04:19 AM
Jan 2014

is, how all the RW propaganda websites lined up to push their "Kim+Jong-un+drunk" . From fox to (rip zombieman) breibart website, every site pushed the same 'story' on to google.

https://www.google.com/#q=Kim+Jong-un+drunk

Kablooie

(18,634 posts)
39. I'll bet he's talking to his people, not us, in reality.
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 04:31 AM
Jan 2014

That kind of bluster plays well in his country.

Of course he might be actually insane and mean it, no one really knows that much about him, but it sounds a lot like their standard rally the troops propaganda they've spouted in the past.

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