Police file on Newtown yields chilling portrait

[Omaha Steve]

Source: AP-Excite

By JOHN CHRISTOFFERSEN

NEW HAVEN, Conn. (AP) - Connecticut police released thousands of pages Friday from their investigation into the Newtown massacre, providing the most detailed and disturbing picture yet of the rampage and Adam Lanza's fascination with murder, while also depicting school employees' brave and clear-headed attempts to protect the children.

Among the details: More than a dozen bodies, mostly children, were seen packed "like sardines" in a bathroom. And the horrors inside school were so terrible that when police sent in paramedics, they tried to select ones capable of handling what they were about to witness.

"This will be the worst day of your life," police Sgt. William Cario warned one.

The documents' release marks the end of the investigation into the Dec. 14, 2012, shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary School that left 20 first-graders and six educators dead.

FULL story at link.



Read more: http://apnews.excite.com/article/20131227/DAAV11082.html

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This Dec. 14, 2012 photo released by the Connecticut State Police shows what the evidence report describes as a view of a second floor bathroom and its contents including a photo identification of Adam Lanza and a cellular phone with battery removed, in the house where Adam Lanza lived with his mother in Newtown, Conn. The photo was released as part of the evidence gathered by police during their investigation after Adam Lanza gunned down 20 first-graders and six educators with a semi-automatic rifle at Sandy Hook Elementary School on Dec. 14, 2012, in Newtown. (AP Photo/Connecticut State Police)

[alp227]

1. More coverage:

Hartford Courant: Newtown Shooting Records Provide Details From Inside School

New Haven Register: Newtown shooting report released by Connecticut State Police details evidence

(Bridgeport) Connecticut Post: State Police report details Sandy Hook shootings

New York Times: As Final Report Is Released, Sandy Hook Investigation Is Said to Be Over

[Blandocyte]

2. Why didn't anyone realize Adam was a threat?

I still don't understand how this murderous young man slipped under the radar of mom, teachers and healthcare professionals.

[Lurks Often]

4. The mother would have been the only one

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and he hid quite a bit (almost all of it based on reports) from her as well. In the end very few parents seem to be able to psychologically accept that the child they raised has turned into a criminal or even worse a monster. He had apparently cut ties with his father and brother some years before.

As for the rest, he was 20 and had been home schooled for years and there appears to be no reports that I have seen that he saw a medical professional in the years between when he left school and committed the murders.

On edit: Today's Hartford Courant contained an article regarding his mental health treatment:

http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-lanza-sandy-hook-report1228-20131227,0,6112024,full.story

[dballance]

3. I know it would be horrific to release the photos BUT...

I think it would be a good thing in the debate on gun regulations.

If I were one of the families I think, especially a year out with no changes in laws, I'd want to have them published to shock the people and legislators into action.

Frankly, I hope they get leaked.

[LiberalLovinLug]

5. Its even more horrific to see the insane deniers

On YouTube there are many videos of preppers and gun nuts railing on about how it was all a set up. If this will shut them up a bit then its worth it to release more evidence.

[Judi Lynn]

6. Key findings in newly released Newtown documents

Key findings in newly released Newtown documents
By The Associated Press | December 28, 2013 | Updated: December 28, 2013 3:15am

Connecticut State Police on Friday released thousands of pages of documents from the investigation into last year's massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown. Here are some details from the documents, which supplement a summary report that was released earlier:

— Gunman Adam Lanza's mother, Nancy, told a friend two weeks before the massacre that her son was becoming increasingly despondent and was put "over the edge" when their house lost power during Hurricane Sandy.

— Another friend told investigators Nancy Lanza texted him a few days before the shooting to say that Adam had bumped his head and they were "dealing with blood."

— A nurse said that she interviewed gunman Adam Lanza four times in 2006 and 2007 and that he had been diagnosed with obsessive compulsive disorder and was "emotionally paralyzed," changing his socks 20 times a day.

More:
http://www.chron.com/news/crime/article/Key-findings-in-newly-released-Newtown-documents-5097845.php

[Ash_F]

7. Those eyes in the ID pic

Those eyes, man.

[otohara]

8. Fucking Nancy Lanza

She did nothing, never took a peek into his dungeon bedroom. Was she afraid
he would shoot her? If I were afraid of my own son, I certainly wouldn't buy him
more and more guns.

[AngryOldDem]

9. I have very little sympathy for her, either.

I'm sorry, but: 1) You don't take someone completely off meds without getting some kind of professional opinion. Ever. Especially meds for anxiety and other psychological issues. If there were side effects, I'm sure that his doctors could have altered the dosage or prescribed something else. Been there, done that with my own kid. 2) If you own your home, nobody has the right to make ANY part of that home off limits to YOU. Adam apparently did not "allow" her into his room. Bullshit. This goes double if the person in your home is obviously unstable. 3) Finally, why keep giving the kid guns? That's what angers me the most -- when I see the fucking arsenal that family had.

Maybe she was in denial, but I call bullshit on that, too. She had a true threat to society living under her roof and she apparently did little to nothing about it, and a lot of dear, precious people paid the price.

One more comment: Almost every story I'm seeing about this always, always brings up the fact that Adam had Asperger's. This syndrome is so poorly understood as it is, and now it's going to be linked in a lot of people's minds with violent behavior. That is NOT a characteristic of Asperger's, but good luck making people understand that.

[demigoddess]

10. Have to agree

with the state of that house, it may have been hard for a person with asperger's to live like that. As a mother of a handicapped child, I think I would have tried to make him comfortable in all of the house by cleaning up that disorganized mess. Then I would not have abandoned him for days. she should have started out with smaller amounts of time. Sudden change could have sent him over. And you are right about the guns. If he was that interested, one gun kept at a shooting range, never allowed it without a supervisor, that would have been my call. If an uncovered window upset him, What about some order and stability in his life!!!!

[AngryOldDem]

11. Asperger's had nothing to do with it.

He had other, more severe psychological problems that Nancy Lanza apparently chose to do nothing about. It is hard to admit that your child has some kind of issue -- especially if it involves mental health. But you put your feelings aside and do what is necessary to help him, and that does NOT mean fatally enabling him by allowing free access to guns and letting him live without limits. Talking about "sending him to school" or "moving out of state" means nothing. The fact that she chose to take him off his medications says it all. She failed her own son, as well as 26 others.

[demigoddess]

13. If you don't make the person

comfortable and treat his aspergers or his mental illness as things that need to be addressed, but just give him guns to make him happy that does create a violent person. Asperger's in and of itself is not violent, but then leave them without help and assistance and you might very well turn them violent.

[mainer]

12. The Newtown deniers are nitpicking the report

I ventured over to that Florida Atlantic University Prof's blog "Memory Hole" and the comments there are all about how this report just makes the conspiracy to "invent Newtown" all the more apparent. Even if you were to release photos and autopsy reports and all the most graphic images, you won't convince them. Who are these people?!!

[yurbud]

14. what is supposed to be the motive for inventing this?

If it was gun control, that was a spectacular failure, and Obama hardly made a full court press in any case.